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16-JUN-2004

June 16, 2004

Grocery shopping sucks. That's why I buy my groceries online. And get them delivered to my kitchen floor. Boring, I know.

That's it!! Someone, only one of you please, tell me how to get my photos loaded to pbase without this kind of degradation. I know this is a lame photo, but the quality of the file is much better than what you are seeing. First I loaded it from a 40% image reduction and then compressed it from 315kb on pbase. Garbage! So I redid it with a 30% image reduction and sharpened the heck out of it in Nikon Capture, and twice in Paint Shop Pro, once before and once after reduction. Then I loaded it and it was still big, 228kb. So I compressed it and now it's worse than the first time I loaded it. This happens with almost all of my photos since using the D70. Unless I leave the file sizes at 250-300kb I get lots of "artifacting" or whatever it's called.

The current image was saved at a higher compression rate yeilding 169kb file and that looked so-so to begin with. The pbase compression has made it slightly worse. Less so than the compression of the larger file.

Nikon D70
1/60s f/5.6 at 24.0mm iso200 with Flash full exif

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Guest 25-Jun-2004 04:08
I want mine delivered. I hate grocery shopping
Jill22-Jun-2004 22:34
Eh???

Now to the grocery shopping..I do love grocery shopping too...many photo opps as well Mark:) All those veggies and fruits. Sorry I have missed on seeing your work..seems I miss you in the meta gallery.
robin statfeld19-Jun-2004 15:35
Call me weird : ) but I LOVE grocery shopping!
Ray :)17-Jun-2004 20:24
Hey Mark, I will have to suggest an "In the supermarket" theme in the forum!
Chris Brooker17-Jun-2004 15:37
I wonder if they would deliver to Harpenden?
Rick Lewis17-Jun-2004 04:01
I'm not sure which editing software you use. Mine is PS Elements. I find pbase frequently dulls photos tremendously but I've never had it create artifacts. My recipe is to do whatever editing I feel is necessary, usually just levels and maybe a slight tweak on saturation, then reduce the image to maybe 450 X 675 pixels which is the size pbase displays at large/original so there is no distortion at the setting at which I view. Only after it is shrunk do I sharpen since I find pre-shrinkage sharpening leaves plenty of garbage after the resizing. Then I'll save the shrunk version at jpeg setting of about 9 to leave a file of 80 - 130Kb which seems to preserve all the detail.
If it has been dulled too much in the loading I'll sometimes pull up that file and push the contrast and saturation by a guesstimate and reload to see if the pbase version matches my version. In Elements there is the option to optimize for online but I've not tried it. Might solve my dulling issue...
jypsee17-Jun-2004 03:36
Wow...a man with delivered groceries!! You're my dream guy!!! I absolutely hate grocery shopping and dragging them into the house and putting them away and...well, you get the idea.
About the photo thing; for web posting you may be able to use Irfanview to open the file and convert it to jpeg and resize it. I don't know if the program opens D70 files, but it does open Canon RAW files and converts them. Quick and dirty...works for me when I need to rush a photo online.
Karen M 17-Jun-2004 03:16
I get mine delivered too. Louie goes out and gets them . It's great. I don't even have to tip him.
Guest 17-Jun-2004 03:00
I see what you mean, but I don't know anything about those programs....

PS-Want PS?
Guest 17-Jun-2004 02:59
My friend John gets his delivered by a service and has his housekeeper put them away! I think that's hilarious!!! And I used to get MINE delivered when we lived in that 3rd floor walk-up.....then we moved out to the beach where I could actually PARK my car.....Oh, but you don't HAVE a car....Lucky YOU!
Joseph Tidwell17-Jun-2004 02:48
Yes it does, your lucky your single though :)
Robin Reid17-Jun-2004 02:44
Too bad you still have to take the food out and put it away!
I share your frustration with the routine chores of running a home.
And you know what, it never ends! ;-)