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venicepix18-Oct-2005 04:24
I still have quite a few Venice resources, but this particular photo is from a pamphlet (PR-AP-0024.21), a 1969 study from the LA DEpt of City Planning.
Guest 17-Oct-2005 03:34
"touch of evil" is fantastic! every venice head should see it!
where are you getting these old pics from?
venicepix16-Oct-2005 16:37
Most people don't realize there's oil wells behind the wall.
And there used to be a lot more between Venice blvd and Balona Creek ( marina channel).
If you haven't seen it, check out the B&W Orson Wells movie "A Touch of Evil" filmed in Venice ( which doubles for a Mexican border town) There's and amazing looooong crane shot in the beginning filmed on Windward and the Oceanfront, and a staggering run down speedway with oil wells everwhere as you get further south. There's also Charlton Heston playing a Mexican(!!!) and Marlene Dietrich too...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052311/fullcredits

Here's the rest of the picture with the black gold....pumping,pumping,pumping (That's another great movie [Sunset Blvdhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043014/]...but I think I've gone beyond obscure, it's just that I've been at the TIGLFF [ the lgbt film festival] all week...)) so just check out the pic:

Guest 16-Oct-2005 02:57
The subversion of public space.....
Guest 16-Oct-2005 02:56
oh sorry, that was me, who wrote all that stuff just below but didnt log in...
Guest 16-Oct-2005 02:54
well, you know the pavilion was built as a community buy off for the oil rig next door. It was a perfect example of totally shitty urban planning made by fat cats and bureaucrats and without the community input or best interests.

Never the less the community claimed that piece of shit and made the best of it in many ways I'm sure the designers and planners never thought imaginable.

I remember going to a production of HAIR in the inside theater part by myself when I was about six, and Anna Haag flowing me some snacks for free cuz I was a hungry girl. (She was always lookin out.)

I remember when they first painted murals on the inside and they let us little kids help.

My brother has a super cool pick of his dad and uncle next to one of the fire pits back when it was brand new.....

And before it became a copshop/homeless encampment it was the home of many a ramp, smoke out, and rooftop party session....
Guest 15-Oct-2005 08:00
I kinda like it without the roof its like a Hollywood bowl by the sea
listening to a show with the sunset on a summer night
how could they blow such a money making op ?
even with parking all the way on Venice you could still pull off summer night concerts it would cost a pretty penny for security but if it was a city thing then the LAPD could secure the outside and event staff inside like the smpd helps out at the sm pier summer concerts

I went to a haunted house at the pavillion WAY back in the day I remember it scared the heck at of me cuz there were sand people and storm troopers all over the place it must have been 76 or 77' star wars was huge, lol



venicepix13-Oct-2005 23:29
*****I've never seen the location without the pavillion, not having been back to Venice in quite a while.
*****I must say that at the time I thought of it as one of the worst designed buildings I had ever seen, built like a fortress to keep people out. Inside it had the worst accoustics I have ever encountered in my life. There were so many echos that it was nearly impossible to hold a conversation with a person standing next to you. It all made a bit more sense , however, when I realized that the roof had been added later! The Pavillion had been designed as a entertainment complex with two stages, one an informal picnic area venue, and the other an open air ampitheater with more formal stadium seating. They were to share backstage facilities, snackbar, bathrooms etc with each other and with the general beach crowd. The high walls WERE to keep people out, ar at least to make it practical to charge admission and that must be why there were the strange chain-link dividers in the rest rooms; You could open them all to the beach or all to the theaters, or half and half... The snack bars could open both ways too.
*****The ampitheater was covered at some point. The added roof was very futuristic and high tech, hung like a tent from those big steel girders. Unfortunately it was a disaster, making the main stage totally useless....dark, cold,hollow, frightening.... It's also hard to imagine building with that kind of capacity built with zero parking! Doesn't it make you wonder if they didn't plan to level Windward Avenue and put in a parking lot?
*****"they paved paradise..."

lissa 12-Oct-2005 22:24
It's like you don't realize how cool something is until it's gone. It's so crazy how things change over time. But I agree, I miss the pavilion too...
Guest 12-Oct-2005 01:26
Even though there was all the graffiti,and it was pretty ghetto--I miss the pavillion, now that its gone. This picture could have been taken a thousand times with different faces--in the same pose, same place, throwin' up Venice!! Im sure we all have pictures of the guys sitting here, doing the same thing...
Guest 07-Oct-2005 02:39
This picture is amazing, the hair and the graffiti kind of flow, check out those bathrooms. I remember I was scared as s*#t to go in there.
Guest 01-Jul-2005 17:26
That's a classic!
Guest 30-Jun-2005 21:51
great pic....I remember Matt!
(T.Wright)
vbwl 30-Jun-2005 17:47
Yup, Thats Matt
Never seen these,
Mat is the kid that played BBall with Ian...
My dad was Tonans legal guardian, so he is my adopted brother in a way.
AveryG 30-Jun-2005 14:17
Matt Propes sp? behind the wall
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