photo sharing and upload picture albums photo forums search pictures popular photos photography help login
Type your message and click Add Comment
It is best to login or register first but you may post as a guest.
Enter an optional name and contact email address. Name
Name Email
help private comment
Ron N. | all galleries >> Galleries >> temporary_repository > AR-15 and the mighty 32X Unertl
previous | next

AR-15 and the mighty 32X Unertl

The ultimate SP1 barrel tester. Works well with the Ciener .22 rimfire conversion kit too.

Years ago, someone chastised me for even considering putting a scope on the tube. He was dead wrong and it works very well. See the Rodman Laboratories rifle in Blake Ezell's "The Black Rifle". The tube is very rigid and the scope "looks" where the bbl. is pointing.

The tubular handguard was made back in the early days of AR-15 competition by Mark Chanlynn of Colorado. It is all steel and cost a small fortune in 1984 or so. He was the first person who really started the AR's in competition in the late '70s. My original competition rifle is now disassembled and various parts are used elsewhere. It was not a good "shooter" by my standards when I bought it - and needed to be dissembled and 'thought out'. This I did, and afterwards the rifle was a consistent 10-shot 100 yard 5/8" to 11/16" gun with 69 gr. Sierras. It shot fine at 600 yds, except when I ran into a batch of out-of-balance Sierras. Long story here. Anyhow, I was shooting 'donut' type groups. You get the picture. At a particular 600 yd. prone 'any sight' match, I couldn't buy an X or 10 for sixty some shots. Grrr.

The fastest twist bbl. that was available in '84 was a 1:10" twist from McMillan's successor. It's still the best bbl. that I own, and is on its third rechambering. Don't let anyone tell you that AR-15s can not be rechambered. They are full of suds. Mark Chanlynn tried to convince me to build a 6mm X .223. But I knew Sierra was coming out with the 69 gr. bullet and so I held out for the .223 chambering. I'm glad that I did.

John Unertl senior worked for a German optical firm in WW-I. He came to this country after the war and worked for Fecker scopes for a while, then started his own company. His son, John passed away few years ago. He used to set up shop at Camp Perry during the Nationals. As far as optics go, this old 32X is better than any modern Leupold that I own - and I've compared them side-by-side.


other sizes: small medium original auto
comment | share
Ron N.18-Jun-2007 03:27
Hi Chris,

I was poking around with a new Vista install, and saw your posting on my pbase site.

These are replacement blocks that I picked up at Camp Perry. They have concave undersides like most Unertls. I just drilled and tapped the 2" tube, and mounted them - there is no groove or fitting at all. The concave underside insures that there will be no rocking on the tube. This was explained to me by an old gunsmith many years ago.

My scope has Posa mounts, which are split, and use a different screw and base than the normal Unertls. But either type mount and base should work fine. I put some closeup pictures on the site.
http://www.pbase.com/packrat/more_projects

Let me know if I can be of assistance. Good luck with your project. Post some pictures.

Cheers,
Ron N.
chris 16-Jan-2007 04:04
i have the same scope but in a 14x. i just got a AR and i couldnt find anything on mounting the target scope on it. i think you are the only person i can find on the net that has a old unertl on a AR. can i get a closer up pic of the scope mounted on the fore arm? also is the fore arm groved to fit the target style blocks? or did he drill and tap for the target blocks on the free float tube? if i was going to mount my scope on my ar what do you suggest i do? should i modify some weaver rings or a 1" scope riser and tap some target blocks to it? or should i grind a couple flat spots on my quad rail and tap the blocks to it? any way it looks good and if you got any ideas or tips let me know thanks. i got a stock RRA free float tube i can use or experiment with or im currently running a yankee hill quad rail. -chris
Quincy Wong 28-Jul-2004 16:43
Ron,

What a great concept. I'm hooked on AR's and Unertl. Own a BV-20, 2" programmer,& vulture.
Need to figure which one would best go no a Free float AR handguard.

Thanks for sharing.

Quincy
Mark L. 14-Nov-2003 18:28
Hi,
Nice scope! I can picture it on my next project rifle. If you ever think of letting it go, please drop me a line.

Thanks,
Mark LeComte