Not Trigonometry * by Canon DSLR Challenge


07-JAN-2006	Gayle Knowles

Sorry, I couldn't think of anything else to call it.

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Guest		05-Feb-2006 05:44
Gayle, I keep coming back to this image over and over again. I finally put a finger on what I like so much about it. It looks so primal to me, like the vertebrae of a giant something right underneath the sand, coming right for me. The seaweed somehow looks like carcasses and it just totally adds to the effect. Very creepy-chaotic.

Canon DSLR Challenge		30-Jan-2006 18:54
Please carefully read the first two posts in the challenge thread. I am specifically allowing all definitions of Chaos. Most of the definitions involve disorder but one, the more "mathematical" definition involves Chaos Theory. And that is where the "patterns in nature" come into play. I got into the most detail in this post (the 2nd post to the thread) because I was afraid of running up against the 6000 character limit for a single post, and because I wanted to get the theme posted as fast as possible. Here's a link to that 2nd post which explains my intentions reasonably well: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=16908158 It's probably so long-winded that few have the stamina to read the whole thing ;) Jim H.

Canon DSLR Challenge		29-Jan-2006 05:15
I believe both kinds of chaos are fine since there was no detailed explaination of type. :) Hmmmm... a challenge where anything goes . Who'da thunkit? LOL! ~ Lonnit

Canon DSLR Challenge		28-Jan-2006 22:34
I think that before we rule out chaos, it would be instructive to see how the seaweed votes :) .. Lew

Canon DSLR Challenge		28-Jan-2006 20:47
First... I just plain love this. Second... why not allow both types of chaos? I don't think that would open this to anything. I think that the mathmatical type of chaos is very specific and the mess kind is no doubt very recognizable to everybody in this group. We wouldn't be the creative types we are without it. ;-) Ann C

Canon DSLR Challenge		28-Jan-2006 19:00
Jim, I let out such a laugh that I startled my daughter sitting next to me! LOL! Well, you don't really disagree with me. I figured out the problem. You had "chaos theory" in mind when you submitted the theme to us. I assumed it to be "chaos" in the non-mathematical sense, ie. mess. I was analyzing the images from the point of 'mess'. This, and other nature images are not 'mess', they are highly sophisticated patterns. So, if you want the challenge theme to be 'mess' all nature shots are off topic. If you want it to be 'chaos theory' all nature patterns are on-topic. If you just want to leave the interpretation of chaos open to either, then virtually anything is on-topic. This image, yes indeed is a splendid example of chaos theory - it is a terrible example of mess. ;) LOL! ~ Lonnit

Canon DSLR Challenge		28-Jan-2006 08:45
Lonnit: I agree entirely with your observations and disagree completely with your conclusions :) This photo shows clear patterns in nature. Repetition and order are quite evident. It's a perfect example of chaos theory at work. This shot is not only beautiful, but is a perfect illustration of several aspects of chaos theory and fractal geometry. I love this! Jim H.

Canon DSLR Challenge		27-Jan-2006 18:59
LOL! Jim, oh boy are we going to butt heads on this challenge! To me this is an excellent example of patterns in nature. I see repetion and order here, not chaos at all! Perhaps that is why my desk looks the way it does! LOL! Looks like a bunch of spines - pretty wild and wonderful patterns. :) ~ Lonnit

Canon DSLR Challenge		27-Jan-2006 17:35
If this shot doesn't just nail the theme right on the head, I don't know what does! Very nice! Jim H.