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venicepix29-Oct-2024 23:49
A message from Jonathan Hess that I moved here:

Hi David and John,

This is Jonathan Hess. I'm the boy with the glasses skating the "Et Motel" pool, or rather, the 61 year old man.

Thank you so much for these amazing photos. Although I lived in the area in 1971/72 (in Santa Monica Shores, those two ugly 17 story towers visible in a lot of your landscapes), I lived in Culver City at the time of the pool shots. My connection to your subjects was having attended Area D Alternative School from 1974 to 1980. Many of the kids in your photos (and some commenters) went there as well: the Friedmans, the Howes, pretty much all the skateboard kids (Rex, "Froggy", Reed, Solo, Kevin McCreedy), "older" kids like Karra, Morgan, Clea, April, Eric Swabeck, Byron, Alan Gordon and quite a few others. And lots of the names of kids I didn't actually know- Polar Bear, Soren, others- were subjects of their conversations and are familiar as well.

It's profoundly poignant and moving to revisit these people and places. Somehow they exist in the present and past at the same time, carrying out a kind of dialogue between the teenager I was and the old man I've become. And it's really rich; if "a picture says a thousand words", then a picture of a time far in the past of people that you knew says many thousands. Again, thank you for this gift. And hello to all of you. I hope you're doing well.
Tim Urban 01-Feb-2020 14:18
These photos are great. Thanks for bringing back a lot of memories. I lived in Venice in the 1970’s. My family started and owned both Venice Precision Roller Works and Road Skates. My kids don’t believe I used to have blond hair down to the middle of my back and a perpetual tan because I never wore a shirt. I have very few pictures from that time, so these are bringing back great memories. If anyone has specific photos of VPRR or Road Skates, please post them or share them with me. Great gallery!
YNG*LABZ 09-Jul-2018 07:02
hell yea Venice 4 life! skate surf and love life, thats what Venice is about!
Debra Z. 20-Jun-2017 18:29
Thanks guys once again. I have posted on other parts of this site through the years. For a moment I lost the link and my sister gave it to me again. I have seen all these photos stolen and put up on numerous blogs and not giving credit where it's due. To me these pics are precious and personal and to have them all over like that without credits and names bothers me. This has happened to me where a friend copies one of my personal pics and it ends up out in cyberspace. I recently sent the link to some of these pages and asked them to please give credits. I am on this site too (have a pic of me at the breakwater in 1976 or so) this was a big part of our lives back then. It was bohemian Venice when rents were cheap and we saw friends all of the time on the daily. It doesn't have the same feel and are bit lost when I walk down there now, unless there is a gathering and I feel grounded once again, if only for a moment. I hope this site is always here for me to go back to. Thanks for the memories.
michelle aranguren 23-Sep-2016 18:31
Hi my name is michelle, I'm from Venezuela, I love this pictures,I would have loved to live in Venice beach at the time!!!
Mark Tomasulo aka MoneyMark 22-Nov-2015 04:33
its good to come back to this place and show all what it was like to live in VENICE
My kids love looking at Dad back in the day........
Good Old DOGTOWN
Robert 18-Jun-2014 22:11
Hey just wondering if anyone has any pics of the Pantaleo family? (Michelle, Frances, Jeff, Vince) They're my family (Michelle's son) and I was hoping to surprise them with some pictures. I know they were in Venice for the late 70s/early 80s and owned a roller skating rental shop. Thanks! rmjones2011@gmail.com
Guest 09-May-2014 22:37
Live in San Diego now & can't help but wonder about Karen
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I know she's gone, but see no pics!
Lisa
month2taco@Gmail.com
Raynard(Ray)11-Jul-2012 01:36
Dave old friend, can we order prints? raynardpackard@yahoo.com

Thanks for this amazing trove of memories...
lorrie brown01-Jul-2012 23:36
Lorrie Brown .......this has been an awesome stroll down memory lane! My brother Dwaine, and I, grew up at 212 No. Venice Blvd., and I continued to live in Venice until I moved to Ariz. in 1984. I would be thrilled to connect with anyone from " back- in- the- day". trigger.14@ hotmail.com trigger..1459@gmail.com
Guest 01-Jan-2012 04:50
happynew years david and little john thanks for posting new pic 2011 of bobo brian paul john vahon
Albert 08-Sep-2011 10:06
This is an awesome archive. Greets from Barcelona Spain
Debbe Romo Zenter 21-Aug-2011 03:01
I just made a Vintage Dogtown page on Facebook and of course will have some of these images on there, Clea sent me the link again, I love this site. Feels like going back home for me. Thanks so much.♥ Find me on FB by typing in my email address.
Tony Ryan 02-Aug-2011 16:52
hey dave its Tony Ryan {fish Brother} unreal to see all these old pics... ive been living in ventura for 20 + yrs my brother Gerry lives in Oxnard a block away from Parker and Vandy... been surfing and breeding..family and all...I often wondered what happened to everyone at the VBW.. Saw Randy Wright at his shop years ago and invited him up to my area to get waves...remember fishing on the breakwater with kelly and whipple. mahoney,diver dan, john pastana suntan dan, lars johnson,all of them hated fish surfboards back then my bro and i were the first to surf em at the breakwater and did we get shit...within 6 months almost everyone started riding em.. except for the Urbany crew... if anyone wants to contact me im at sagelove@pacbell.net. peace.
inkberi 06-May-2011 00:41
Anyone know skater/surfer Darren from Latigo Canyon would have been around 15 1n the late 70's
sean reveron 08-Oct-2010 03:54
hay hay it's sean...i just wanted to say thank you so much for capturing our lives!!!...do you any more flicks of me!....venice for life!!!!
V.B.W.L. 09-Jan-2010 19:41
GLAD TO HEAR PEOPLE I GREW UP ARE STILL HAPPY, THE ONES THAT MADE IT. THROUGH THE ROUGH BUT HAPPY TIMES..1969 190EARLY 90S I M ONE OF THEM{JOHN HANDS} AND LOST ALOT OF FRIENDS, ?! I STILL ONCE IN A WHILE SEE THE OLD LOCALS WHEN I RIDE MY BIKE. NOT MUCH OF THE OLD VENICE! THERE ARE WOMEN THAT I LOVED ALL MY LIFE WHEN I GREW UP IN VENICE BUT THERE ARE JUST ONE OR TWO THAT WILL NEVER LEAVE MY MIND. GOOD LUCK TO ALL JOHNHANDS6@GMAIL.COM
venicepix28-Dec-2009 04:34
Well, not much actually.... "Guest's" enigmatic question below was actually the first comment in several weeks. Pbase was down for a while there and when they resumed they never got the counters (which you guys can't see) working properly..... and I was beginning to wonder if any or all comments were being posted during the last few weeks. Ray (as you can see below) managed to attach a shot of himself; something which I had thought was no longer possible (see the explanation on page top) but I haven't had the time to try to figure out exactly what code he used to do that.
The galleries seem to still be working properly.
Pbase is exceedingly inexpensive, and the pages always look nice and uncluttered so I'm not inclined to complain when they don't deliver absolute perfection....
Otherwise..... what IS going on????
Guest 28-Dec-2009 02:53
what is going on?
Raynard(Ray)07-Dec-2009 19:15
We're all older now, but brothers and sisters, I'm STILL skating...

Guest 20-Nov-2009 01:52
Glad to hear that Rona is surfing!
walker talker 07-Sep-2009 19:58
hey all of you , my love ones the venice break waterfamilia its labor day 2009 and me russell webber and his wife rona surfed bay street today was fun, anyway a salute to you all p.s karra always missed u glad your back i was up in santa cruz and would here about you and would love to toch bases some time yo little bro walker
Guest 07-Sep-2009 19:50
hello dave little john, looking for some old pics and friends so nice you two are still in this planet would love to see my pics again and hope you both are doing well sincerely walker
JOHN HANDS 04-Aug-2009 17:34
hi everyone,i m still in this world and as happy as ever, i hope the same goes for everyone else i grew up with.i m still at the beach alot in between working.fishing swiming bike rideing and of course people watching. write me if you want at johnhands6@gmail.com will answer all...hi dave and little john, peace and love to all....john hands V.B.W.L.
JOHN HANDS 26-May-2009 18:53
I DO HAVE PICTURES OF THE OIL WELL WALL, IN THE 70S THUR THE 90S
ian congdon 16-May-2009 00:39
Anyone, I am doing a project about skateboarding in venice and am looking for any photos or video of skateboarding in the 80's in Venice and also looking for any photos of the oil well at the breakwater
Please let me know it would be very helpfull

Thanks Ian Congdon
icpainting@aol.com
Guest 24-Apr-2009 00:29
WELL THERE IS SOMONE STILL LIVING THAT LOVES RONA WEBER MORE THEN ANYONE IN THIUS WORLD.
bobo moore 20-Apr-2009 04:12
hi david and lil john neat to see you guys on the net thelast time i saw you too was walking on the beach where you are standing now with a happy new year poster you guys would allways wave and smile thanks for documenting the good old days of venice and all the pepole we shared time with my name bobo my brother is craig caveie cave man my sister is connie we all lived on 342 market st from62 69 just around the coner from you too so your eyes have seen me then we moved over to 46 club house i w as born bread and buttered in venice santa monica culver city i would drink beer with pc snaper r i p dennis DEE and so on spent alot of time in santa monica but allways concerder my self a vboy thnks agian for the pix hi everbody bobo iam in oregon now
JOHN HANDS 10-Apr-2009 20:25
I HAVE FOUND OVER 4 GRAND IN SEAWEED MONEY OVER THE YEARS, DIVER DAN TAUGHT ME HOW TO DO IT IN THE LATE 1970, I STILL DO IT NOW AND THEN DURNING THE SEASON OF SEAWEED HUNTING FOR DOLLARS. THERE ARE SEASON TO DO IT. I DO HAVE TO PRIDE MYSELF IN BEING THE BEST AT GRABING THE MONEY WHEN IT FLOATED UP. SOME OTHER GOOD HUNTERS WERE ERIC A. KORI, KELLY R. BYRON H. ON AND ON. THE LAST TIME I FOUND SEAWEED MONEY WAS AT S.M. PIER LAST SUMMER. 11 DOLLARS....J.H. V.B.W.L.
Guest 12-Feb-2009 04:51
I was not a local, local, ...but my dad lived close enough for me to ride my bike to the beach everyday. I too remember getting felafel and a vegetarian sandwich at the local health food store. Walking around and always running into a friend. I can relate so much to the last post. I miss it too.
Guest 05-Jan-2009 18:48
ok, its 2009! the best wishes for everyone i grew up with in venice. thoe many people are now not with us anymore they are still in our thoughts! of course you dave that made these momires possible love from us all!!! we all that were in venice 1969 thur the 80s know how special venice was back then. now days us oldtimers that vist venice and the oldtimers that are still there can see how its just not a know everybody city klie it was! happy new year from werever you are at!! john hands, gmail johnhands6@gmail.com
Guest 03-Jan-2009 19:53
IT'S NOW 2009 WE ALL HAVE GONE YOUR WAYS BUT I WOULD HELP ANY ONE I KNOW BACK THEN IN ANY WAY I COULD. IF YOU COME FROM VENICE IT WILL ALL WAYS BE ON YOUR MIND AND IN YOUR HEART. VENICE WAS A PLACE THAT IF YOU LIVED HERE IN THE LET 70'S AND ON YOUR DOOR WAS ALWAYS OPEN.

ALL THE BEST TO US ALL ONE LOVE MARK AKA MONEYMARK
Guest 06-Dec-2008 01:36
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venicepix01-Dec-2008 14:41
*****Like many of us, I expect, I have been dealing with the death of a parent. We had a little memorial gathering yesterday and now it's all about dealing with legal matters and closing down the apartment.

***** I'm finally going to be able to update the Newly Added Comments page above, though there haven't been many new comments lately. In the meantime the site has passed the 30,000 mainpage hits mark (30,750) with 509,083 individual page hits.
Guest 17-Sep-2008 22:12
i love and appreciate all those pictures my friend,god bless you and hope your well love&respect tim jackson....again thank you guys
Alicia7003-Apr-2008 03:03
Thank you so much, David, Amazing pics!!
My name is Alicia Salerno. I grew up in Brentwood and Venice..I just cherish all these pics and remember so many fun times! I was married to Dennis (Polar Bear) Agnew, R.I.P. Thank you for these pics..our son can see them all...and his 1st son, Dillon.
I also see sooo may familiar faces from Venice and our old 321 dayz..lol! We were all so young and had so much fun! Dancing the night away...young and fun times..
Is that Patrick Fletcher from back then?
anyone can email me at: aliciaskincare@yahoo.com
Blessings!
venicepix24-Dec-2007 18:12
Holiday Greetings from Venicepix 2007

venicepix03-Dec-2007 21:42
Glad you like the site Yves, but just so people don't get hopelessly confused, venicepix is a David not a Doug.....
Yves Rubin03-Dec-2007 19:22
This is some superb piece of history you have here Doug! I love hanging down in Venice and this puts a lot of things in perspective. Thank you!

Yves
PETE MAYOTTE 26-Nov-2007 04:57
MY NAME IS PETE MAYOTTE . I SEE LITTLE JOHN AND HIS BEAU. YOU GUYS HAD THAT VW VAN. ALWAYS GOOD PEOPLE... GREG RUSSELL. I LIVED ON WAVECREST WITH MY SISTER LORY MAYOTTE. SHE WORKED AT THE SIDEWALK CAFE AND BARTENDED FOR YEARS AT HINANO. FED MANY HUNGRY YOUNG VENICE SURFERS AND SKATERS TOO. THE HINANO BEER WASN'T BAD EITHER. YOU ALL STAY COOL . PETE
Patrick Fletcher 24-Oct-2007 08:20
Amazing site ... thanks David!
Guest 14-Oct-2007 17:43
Again David,
Thanks for doing this.
I noticed Micheal Conn has written a few times.
I would be curious to hear how the other Conns are doing.
Especially Sally Conn who I sat next to in 5th grade.
Eric
venicepix01-Jan-2007 23:19
Alas, 'tis true Billy....(see the Jan1 comment below)
But I have been scanning negs for a second Marina Skate Park gallery which I had hoped would be ready for the New Year. Didn't quite make it..... but soon....I promise!
It's the little black cat that keeps interupting me with his agonizing cries for more shrimp and cantelope!!!!



I might mention that the site has passed 20,000 main page hits, with 289,381 individual page hits, so people are still visiting . These days I believe the Skatercross gallery gets the most action which is why I thought to do another skatepark gallery next.
HAPPY NEW YEAR FROM DAVID AND ('LITTLE')JOHN
Guest 01-Jan-2007 07:22
damn no new shit in some time ..how is everything Dave ? happy new year ..!!!

Mil Mil aka Billy
Guest 22-Aug-2006 04:14
Yeah, Dave, this mural I can verify is Doug's:
http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/image/45303650

you speak to the cranky mercurial nature that characterized much of the local "attitude"...
believe me, we all got it, and most of us dished it too. and it sucked. Let's hope everybody outgrew it...
venicepix21-Aug-2006 02:16
The picture in the collage below was posted by the Jacksons
(http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/kelly_and_tim )
and I only took a couple of the shots featured on it. Not the one of Doug.
.....I haven't seen Doug Smith since 1991 when he recognized me walking down the oceanfront and emerged out of one the little pagodas to say hello. I didn't recognize him at first and I really wish I had been more friendly. I was rather surprised by his greeting because, quite frankly I still remembered all the shit he had directed my way back in the seventies. His brother was even more difficult to deal with. I should have been over that by 1991 because obviously he was, but unfortunately I shifted back into a wary, defensive mode from an earlier day. Even back then I had thought that it was a shame that he put such a huge wall between us since we had the art connection in common, so to speak...

There are two graffitti on the site whick I think are his:
http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/image/45313900 and
http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/image/47973124
The more I think about it the more I suspect that these should be attributed to Rick Martin. It's nearly impossible to ascertain if my negative is a picture of a wall or a picture of a picture of a wall.
People have also wondered if this mural in progress was Doug's:
http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/image/45303650
Did he design this mask:http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/image/59907422
There's this picture:http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/image/46031336
Perhaps I may have some others, but as I rule I usually kept some distance between the two of us...
And one of these days I may try to photograph the Z-Flex t-shirt which I still have. I think it's possible that he may have given it to me as a peace offering, though it also may have come from Dennis... I'm not sure
Guest 20-Aug-2006 01:24
I was curious, do you have more photos of Doug Smith or of his artwork?
venicepix22-Apr-2006 10:45
15,000 Main Page hits as of this morning....so although the comments have slowed down, new people still seem to be finding venicepix (and I'm scanning in a new gallery, due soon)
Guest 25-Feb-2006 02:07
Hey Dave, thanks for updating the most recent comments. Hope all is well, Karra
venicepix22-Dec-2005 00:21
Of course, I haven't a clue as to who all these old people are... but please go the the version in Newly Added Pix #8 with any identifcations (there's a numbered version there:http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/image/53829649 )
Thanks for the posting Kelly and all the Jacksons!!!
KELVBWL 21-Dec-2005 11:44
MARK TOMASULO 29-Nov-2005 06:25
I F-UP MY LAST NAME IT IS MARK TOMASULO
MARK TOAMSULO 29-Nov-2005 05:55
IT IS GOOD TO SEE ALL OF YOU AND TO SEE WHAT WE ALL LOOKED LIKE BACK IN THE DAY WE HAVE ALL GONE OUR OWN WAYS BUT WE ALL HAVE VENICE IN OUR HEARTS MUCH LOVE MONEY MARK
venicepix29-Nov-2005 04:08
Just passed ten thousand hits on the main page, though it's impossible to know exactly how they keep count....... they don't count mine when I'm logged in, but they may count multiples when one of you clicks the All Galleries button.......even so, that a lot of word of mouth....or would it be words of mouth.....or word of mouths....naaaah!
Guest 22-Nov-2005 14:56
Welome back, and thanks for all your hard work and sharing with everyone these Venice memories!
venicepix22-Nov-2005 12:17
We're back from Buenos Aires, a wonderful trip, and I'm going to try to start posting new pix.....but with the trip pictures to sort, christmas cards to make, LJ's birthday, and the holidays in general it may continue to be a bit slow here for a while. There are a lot more pictures 'in the vault'....so those of you who have managed to make it through the 900+ already posted, please check back now and then for the new stuff that I plan to eventually post .... thankx
ananda jaynes 22-Nov-2005 05:27
This Ananda,
My son Joshua Bird just gave me link to this site. I am now living in Vegas and missing the beach. If you want to say hello email me: anandajaynes@msn.com
Venice Breakwater Locals Rule
venicepix12-Oct-2005 04:04
Finally finished my Skatercross pix. It was a real satisfaction to be able to clean them all up, but also a lot of work because I was such a beginner at the time. I'd only been taking B&W for a few months.
I was also reminded of how frightened I was when I first went out there. I can't imagine how they talked me into it. For this shy nerdy guy from the East it was like walking into a lion's den....
Ho 05-Oct-2005 15:44
Hello David and Little John - Missy just gave me the site!
Wow is all I can say.
Lov,
Holly Ann
venicepix26-Sep-2005 18:02
Sorry I've been AWOL a bit lately. I've been trying to make some sense of the negatives from SkaterCross, and early skate park in Reseda, and it's turned out to be a bigger job than I thought....
venicepix18-Sep-2005 03:47
Try going in to the domain http://www.onionskin.com/ Some of it is there and some of it isn't. The actual address (see bottom of that page) is North Carolina so possibly Ophelia knocked out a server, though he's far from the coast...maybe he just forgot to pay a bill...
hopefully he'll be back soon
Guest 18-Sep-2005 02:27
anybody know what's up with Tavarez' POP lords of dogtown old locals website????
It's been down for days and I'm worried its something to do with Katrina. Please advise...
Guest 16-Sep-2005 16:40
The waves were huge last night at Venice pier. The swell is here....
venicepix09-Sep-2005 17:04
Since the hurricane and New Orleans have been mentioned here I thought you might be interested in these two related pbase galleries and their comments attached....
http://www.pbase.com/gpc/orleans
http://www.pbase.com/nestorduran/katrina
venicepix09-Sep-2005 14:06
Billy let me know that he was referring to the numbers I sometimes put on my pix to make it easier to identify the people in them, which I have now done for his shot at:http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/billy_paddle_out
I guess I was just looking for a chance to explain my system, because it sometimes can tell the viewer something about the picture itself...
venicepix09-Sep-2005 00:34
It took me a second to realize you meant 'writing on the wall" instead of 'painting on the wall in your previous post, referring to the warnings in the 2004 National Geographic link about the dangers facing New Orleans in as Hurricane ( by the way, the phrase 'writing on the wall' is from the Old Testament, the story of Daniel and BELSHAZZAR'S FEAST).
On the other hand, the little numbers you refer to I assume are the ones in each picture's URL. I give them the ones that appear below. I give each of my scans a consecutive number which makes it possible for me to pin down any picture that anyone should ask me about, without having to find it on the site. That would be the five diget number that appears below every one. The hyphenated number that appears on some, for example 71-3A is the original proof sheet and frame number. The word scanpix means I scanned a picture, not a neg (if it has the 71-3A type number it means that I know which negative it was but just scanned the print which is much faster) And I try to put a date where I know it.
The number that appears in the URL is given each image by pbase. What's nice about their system is that links and bookmarks continue to work, even when you move stuff around. For example, I moved Collie's gallery into to Memorial Gallery but it's web address remained the same so I assume a bookmark will still work.
Where it really gets strange is that the picture that Kelly posted at Bulldog of the skate and wave came with hidden data that pbase automatically displayed, camera, date, fstop,. and shutter speed which was automatically displayed, but which I removed 'cause I felt that it just distracted from the picture and it's impact.
This may all sound a bit obsessive, but it's not something that comes naturally to me. However, if I hadn't had the notion to organize these negatives back in the day there would be no venicepix today. I just wish I had had the fuckin' sense to date stamp all my prints from the very beginning (didn't start til the mid eighties!!!*&%$!!)
Guest 08-Sep-2005 22:39
woops I ment to say " Writing on the Wall"
I was just trying to multitask to many things right then lol
I was over here looking at this at the same time I was writing that

It's title is River Bones and Roses
sometimes I can be looking at something then I'll feel something that draws me elsewhere. this time I listened and went here and saw that somebody else was felt sad about the people left scattered in the wake of Katrina but when I posted to Dave how he was doing with Katrina I knew it could hit New Orleans and I'm not even a meteorologist(sp) but you don't need a degree to know that hurricanes love hot water
and the gulf was at 80 damn near 90 last I checked . I have never seen water temps this high all the way up to n. carolina . it's 90+ in the Caribbean so the season is FAR from over
Guest 08-Sep-2005 22:20

Hey Karra
my friend Marisa just flew in from there she made it out OK but she has chalked up everything as gone. She is so sad to not know of what became of neighbors and friends to not be able to get thru on her cell trying to call people. she just came out of shock
it sucks cuz I was planning a trip to go there. to see it as it was . I hope the Garden district is still OK. I saw there was a fire over there.
read this article if ya want to see the "painting on the wall"
http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature5/
(taken from bds thread)

hey Dave
here is another pic to put over on your new page
have fun putting the lil numbers on it J/K !!!


Guest 03-Sep-2005 01:12
Hey out there,

I'm really feelin bad for everybody hurtin from Katrina....

Venice and the Big Easy have a lot in common, two of the best places on earth.

New Orleans is one of th eonly places in this country that this Venetian has felt truly at home in,

I'm so sorry...
-Karra
Guest 29-Aug-2005 16:37
Thank you so much David...
venicepix29-Aug-2005 04:42
I've added a new memorial gallery right at the beginning (leaving Dennis a gallery of his own since he was really involved in the creation of the pictures and the site). However I did move Collie's gallery to the memorial gallery. I've waited a while before putting this all together and hopefully I haven't made any mistakes. Please let me know if I have offended anyone...
venicepix26-Aug-2005 12:14
We always have to keep a close eye on any hurricane that resides in the western Gulf of Mexico. So far no adverse effects for us and the forcast paths only brush by, but you never know for sure until it actually passes by. Even then, we sometimes get coastal flooding when the wind shifts behind a storm. The worst flooding we've had since we've lived here was when Tropical Storm Josephine ( not even a hurricane at thet point) passed by 150 miles off the coast.
I've been working on a 'Memorial' gallery lately, which is why there's not been a lot of activity from me here lately. It's something I always had planned from the beginning, but , as I had expected, it's been difficult to do... a lot of work and a lot of emotion. I had expected that it might be done this weekend, but that may depend on Katrina. Can't have a bunch of negatives lying on the floor when there's a threat of high water!
Guest 26-Aug-2005 06:57
How ya holdin up with Katrina ?
Merric 16-Aug-2005 06:39
My head is spinning looking back at old times. we sure had fun. Thank you so much for putting this all together. It's wonderful.
venicepix15-Aug-2005 23:33
I figured he probably came in through Bulldog, and I myself was mpressed if not staggered by his inventory. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Skateboard (the movie) once again. We saw it in the theater! In fact if someone had a copy with all the Allen Garfield edited out I might be tempted to buy it....
kelVBWL 15-Aug-2005 20:39
Iowa sk8r is the video king... You name it he prob has it.. He's one of the BDS site regulars..
venicepix15-Aug-2005 16:45

I moved the comment below here from one of the skateramp pix....
This guy's site is an interesting contrast to venicepix. He's got some interesting pix, but it makes me realize that my site is sorely lacking in pix of hotties in short shorts and white platform boots (maybe Billy can lend me some.....no don't!!!...really!). It appears, on the linked commercial site, that he has video copies of Rollerboogie, Skatetown USA, Thrashin', and Skateboard (the movie) with both Tony Alva AND Leif Garrett!!!, but expect many pop-ups and ghost windows if you go there.The Alva/Garrett pairing seemed like atrocious casting at the time but when you consider the personal odysseys of L.G. and J.A. it doesn't seem so strange at this point. Wasn't Thrashin' the one where they painted over all the graffitti on the 'tru local hangout' and then overpainted that with fake, though not unattractive, movie graffitti and then painted over that when they were done, as if it would ever remain clean for long....
Come to think of it, I do have a picture of Greg Bradford, STAR of Skatetown USA in short shorts...he always wore'em tight! You may also remember him as the 'love interest' in a couple of episodes of "Facts of Life"....but rollerskates, not white platforms:


[from Robert Johnson to Greg Bradford! There must be a wormhole on this page!]

It appears from the space in the message that his guy may have tried to display some of his pix here, though without success, which is just as well. I'd rather not see the site be too bloated with displayed images that have neither visual connection to Venice nor direct connections and meanings to the lives of the people who are part of this story. Most links are fine, though...
Guest 15-Aug-2005 16:18
yeah look at these!!





heres some of my photo album.
http://community.webshots.com/user/iowask8er
venicepix09-Aug-2005 17:30
Gracias por la galanteria... yo mismo, queria quedar en Barcelona!
Guest 09-Aug-2005 17:21
RE: Dating habits, I agree with "an older head here" completely.....
Guest 09-Aug-2005 17:02
¡Gracias David! Pero, quería quedar en Mexico... Ademas tenía este padrissimo website a divertirme aqui, Karra
venicepix09-Aug-2005 03:01
welcome back Karra! (unless you've just managed to find a stray computer in foreign lands, in which case, Party On!)
venicepix08-Aug-2005 03:20
.....As you can see, I've changed root gallery page and this "Meeting Place" gallery. I suspect that visitors have always ignored the text and skipped directly to the pictures, which is fine with me....the pictures are what it's all about....but as there are more and more galleries and more visitors too, I thought that it would be a good idea to try to give some simple tips to make the site easier to navigate, especially for newcomers.
.....The pbase templates that I usually follow are rather tasteful and demure, but they also make it very easy to ignore text. I wanted to get the messages across so I sort of went to town with it. I may try to tone things down a bit in the future...We've been stretching pbase far beyond its original intentions with this site. There's no way I can build a page and preview it before it appears, so I just assembled a bunch of elements and tossed them, all at once, onto the page. Please feel free to comment here if my directions seem confusing
an older head here 30-Jul-2005 13:26
In answer to the question- was it always so incestuous - yes and no.
Some stayed with one, others went with many, some swapped and otherwise experimented - or all of the above at different times. Even the steadiest of couples sometimes had their moments -I think there was the same old double standard, where for guys there were conquests but a girl could wind up with quite a reputation. (If you were a true Venice girl, you could stand up to the vibes.) That said, it was all a lot freer. Some refer to the 70's as a bad 60's hangover, but looking back there were aspects that were quite idyllic compared to the 80's - especially since Aids had not yet been recognized...I definitely think of my teen years in Venice as free spirited. It was a subculture with pretty rigid boundaries,--meaning limited stock! ; ) Plus we were all so damn gorgeous back then- who could resist! ; ) Some locals were in (for the most part) monogamous relationships, for several years at a time - some are still together today! (Russ & Rona Webber) -- not to mention our dear Host& LJ.
Mil Mil 30-Jul-2005 13:26
Venice was FULL of cute couples , but I got to ask the older heads here ... was it always so incestial ? you know everybody going out with each others old girlfriends/boyfriends ?I just woder if the same habits from the 80's were going on in the 70's . Let's just say we messed with the same people . Venice was a like a small town in a sense.
venicepix30-Jul-2005 13:25
Since they pertain to more general local dating habits, the following two comments have been moved here from this page:http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/image/45993347
(remember ,the time line on these comments moves UP!)
venicepix29-Jul-2005 13:41
There are two pages with similar comments on two far-flung galleries, so I decided to bring them together here:
http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/image/45056359
http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/venice_locals_one
There's been a lot of local chest-thumpin' on the site lately and that's OK (as long as it's basically positive and not just a lot of put-downs, especially of specific people pictured here). I guess I'm proud , in a way, for surviving the crap we went through, even if I am, deep down, a total wuss...I'm also grateful to the people who opened the door a crack.
However, I have always maintained that if it were actually possible to own waves, none of us would have possession...instead, the breakwater would be time-shared and all the lefts in the last week in July would be reserved for some real eatate developer in Touluca Lake. ( you could still surf in the winter:too cold for the rich [but they'd be working to find a way to dome the place])
Guest 27-Jul-2005 17:40
Hey...what ever happened to "Freaky Fanny"? she too took a load of pictures!
~Teresa Wright
venicepix27-Jul-2005 12:23
Thanks to Karen for the little message she left me in the guestbook. As I've been building this site, a lot of it has been driven by memories, perhaps even more the memories of others than of my own recollections. However, I have also been trying to create something that might stand on its own. That's always been in the back of my mind....so your message made me very happy indeed!
Guest 25-Jul-2005 23:01
Hey Billy...I'll be there Thursday!

(Teresa Wright)
Guest 22-Jul-2005 22:58

hey kelly

HR from bad brains
malibu inn 7-28

ya goin ?
venicepix13-Jul-2005 23:12
Oh shit, I got him started ( and this is the first time I've ever typed this>>>)...LOL !
Guest 13-Jul-2005 22:09
ya must of seen the post I left Tracy over at the bulldog site , lol
Yep Billie Holiday is Great !!!
but don't forget about Robert Johnson
and his Cross Road Blues
I played it the other day and I forgot how it hit home for me

I went to the crossroads, fell down on my knees
I went to the crossroads, fell down on my knees
Asked the Lord above, have mercy now, save poor Bob if you please

Standin' at the crossroads, tried to flag a ride
Whee-hee, I tried to flag a ride
Didn't nobody seem to know me, everybody pass me by

Standin' at the crossroads, risin' sun goin' down
Standin' at the crossroads baby, the risin' sun goin' down
I believe to my soul now, po' Bob is sinkin' down

You can run, you can run, tell my friend Willie Brown
You can run, you can run, tell my friend Willie Brown
That I got the crossroad blues this mornin', Lord, baby I'm sinkin' down

I went to the crossroad, mama, I looked east and west
I went to the crossroad, babe, I looked east and west
Lord, I didn't have no sweet woman, ooh well, babe, in my distress


I surprise people with my broad taste in music.
but this guy had some cold ass lyrics ya can't get away with some of things he said today
I'd like to see somebody redo 32-20 Blues

If I send for my baby
man, and she don't come
All the doctors in Hot Springs
sure can't help her none

and they say todays rap lyrics are violent ?

I'm gonna shoot my pistol, gotta shoot my Gatlin gun
You made me love you
now your man has come


oh it getts better

baby where you stayed last night
You got your hair all tangled
and you ain't talkin right
Got a 38 special boys, it do very well

it's for the adult listener.
lol








venicepix13-Jul-2005 20:36
Hey Billy, you know Billie also sang:
No regrets
Because somebody new looks good to you
No regrets
Sweetheart no matter what you say or do
I know our love will linger
When the other love forgets
So I say goodbye with no regrets
venicepix13-Jul-2005 20:26
Yep, Littlejohn and I are both alive and well....did you realize that there's a picture on the bottom of this page?
Shlep Roc13-Jul-2005 19:22
We should do a where are they now
Shlep Roc13-Jul-2005 19:17
What up Kelly How is tim doing hi dave how are u!(thanx for resurfacing there was a rumor that you had passed glad it aint true) hi kara I dont think i know you.Billy what up Cuzz. Does anyone have a email adress on the weirdlooking dude who did the postcards?? if so let me know
Guest 12-Jul-2005 18:46
here is the site to view the Calander of the events for the Venice Centennial
http://www.venicecentennial.com/index.html
looks like last weekend was the closer
but the festival is on 9-25
http://www.abbotkinney.org/festival/

Venice's Birthday is the 4th of July

venicepix11-Jul-2005 23:16
I COPIED THIS MESSAGE HERE...d
Kelly....e-mail me the pics from Saturday (Venice's 100th B-day) - Great seeing you!

teresa.palomino@fox.com

(Teresa Wright)
venicepix11-Jul-2005 04:00
Hurricane Dennis missed us but it brought some high tides over the seawall...also some big waves, but too big for my old bones!
Guest 10-Jul-2005 18:12
Hey David looks like Dennis is coming to see ya ?
venicepix08-Jul-2005 00:39
Nobody's going to know what w'ere talking about here Billy (ignore us folks), but I don;t think I took the b&w and I really didn't mind them both being here..(also look in newest pix)
......Has any one noticed the pic on the bottom or the nice message from R.W.?....
Guest 07-Jul-2005 16:58
Thanks, I like this feature to be able to see what people have added, and also the "Recent" button! this is so great!!!!
venicepix07-Jul-2005 14:18
I got to go surfing this morning! The sky was blue, water about 85 degrees, the red tide miraculously cleared up overnight, and a little swell from T.S. Cindy was coming in at an angle. I guess the word hadn't gotten out 'cause there was only one Krazy old Kook out making a total fool of himself.....oh yeah....that was me...

[RANDOM NOTE: Tmes on right are 24hr clock and Greenwiich Mean time . New York is 6 hrs earlier and LA is 9 hrs earlier (taking into account D.S.T.]
venicepix06-Jul-2005 12:20
Did you all realize that you can link pages or galleries from venicepix together in your comments(You can also link to other websites too). It's easiest if you open two windows with the page to which you are adding the comment in one, and the picture you wish to link in the other. Copy and paste the URLof the linked picture into your comment. If you screw up, I can delete a mistake or maybe fix it...
It will look like this:
Hey! doesn't that kook on the right (below) sort of look like this one?http://www.pbase.com/venicepix/image/45697972
venicepix06-Jul-2005 00:59
big, big ,BIG smile!
Guest 05-Jul-2005 23:04
Hi David Scott,
Randy says what's up to you and John!
Thank for doing the Venice site, the pic's are way cool of what some of the crew from Venice used to be like, and since Venice just celebrated it's 100th Birthday on July 4th, I am thankfull to have been a part of the VBWL scene in the last 3rd part of the 20th century!!!
All the best, Randy Wright
R.wrightVBWL@verizon.net
venicepix04-Jul-2005 20:18
***HAPPY NEW YEAR from David and John (LJ)***
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(this was an email attachment we sent to our friends on New Year Day)
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