George Bush Won: The Nation and the World Lost Photo Gallery by n at pbase.com

George Bush Won: The Nation and the World Lost

Captions under each photo expand on the point made by each of the images. Click on the link within one photo to view George Bush's "one finger victory salute." In case you are wondering, it's his middle finger.

keywords: Hilary Clinton, September 11, abortion, social security, NRA

1124 US Soldiers have died.jpg	Abortions increased under Bush.jpg	Wedge Issues that Divide the nation.jpg	100000 Iraqi Civilians Died.jpg
Four more wars.jpg	Bad International relations.jpg	Billionaires rewarded.jpg	Character Assasination.jpg
Destructive environmental policies.jpg	Russia Told to Pursue Democracy	Fear Mongering	Media Propaganda.jpg
NRA is dead wrong.jpg	Oil Wells filled with the blood of children.jpg	Sacrilegious Victory Salute by Bush.jpg	Eroding Wages and healthcare.jpg
Balance Budget on backs of the poor.jpg	Big Hummer Little Brain.jpg	Leave Social Security Behind.jpg	Thank God for Sept 11
America For Sale.jpg	Mandate My Ass	Shock and Awe	Testosterone Qualification for US Supreme Court
Ask the subway commuter -- are we safer?	USA Oil Consumption	Segregated Drinking Fountains	What does the future hold?

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Guest		12-Sep-2009 17:28
Bush is a great man! To all that disagree,well you know what y'll can do! Long live Bush policys!

www.stuck.at - Brezina GmbH		31-Jul-2007 00:35
http://www.pbase.com/11051912/political_apathy

Mosi		14-Mar-2007 06:34
Bottom line; The reason terrorists are so angry in the first place is because we are doing terrible things to other people and other countries. We all know there is plenty of evidence of this. The problem with so many of the right winged arguments here is that they don't address some of the major facts that point to why we are really in Iraq right now. People wouldn't want to kill us if we were trying to help them. It's a simple concept really. It's not right for us to be driving our huge SUV's around when we could be saving hundreds of people for the same price. If someone had a choice between of buying a tank of gas or saving your life wouldn't you be offended if they said "no, I'd really rather just drive my extra huge fucking truck five blocks down the street to the store. It's just so much easier." I'd want to kill them just like the middle east wants to kill us. I'm as guilty of this action as the next person, but at least I can admit it. I think admitting to any fault is the only way we move on.

Guest		31-Mar-2006 01:51
Good gallery. If you like politics please visit my new site: http://www.leftwingrant.com/

Guest		10-Sep-2005 12:50
The wider problem here is that a lot of us just don't seem to understand that the Democrats are just as complitcit in war mongering, exploitation of the poor and perpetrating the myth of the "war on terror" as the Republicans. Why? Because both parties serve the same interests and have the same basic motivation i.e. to exploit (and often kill) workers (whether in the US or in Iraq) to further enrich the grotesquely rich minority. Their only difference is a in the tactics used to achieve these ends. Don't be fooled by Democrat OR Republican lies.

A Patriot		06-Sep-2005 18:18
Thus far, the most intelligent posts here have been from Mike Harris and Frederique Long. On the other hand, the least intelligent posts have been from those who dismiss any criticism of Bush as liberal bias and un-American. Such name-calling simply reflects the poster's blind acceptance of propaganda and inability to even consider other viewpoints. And that, indeed, is one of the things tearing us all apart. By the way, I am 100% opposed to the war in Iraq and - surprise surprise! - I am not at all a liberal. Among other things, I am a firm believer in capital punishment, a strong (but non-adventurist) military, pro-business and anti-China. Yet there are those who would in an automatic knee-jerk reaction dismiss my criticism of President Bush as the rantings of a liberal. LOL. At least Mike and Frederique have the capacity for reason and can debate important issues without resorting to name-calling anyone who may disagree with them. It would be so refreshing to read a pro-Bush comment that was based upon facts and intelligent reasoning as opposed to the many I have read here with tired rehearsed cliched rants about liberals and how those who support Bush are somehow more patriotic than those who do not support Bush. If support for one's leaders were the defining characteristic of being a patriot, then we would all still be speaking the Queen's English and pay our taxes in pounds rather than dollars.

Guest		22-Aug-2005 22:25
Just too many dumb people voting. Take heart, though; Carl Rove may yet drag Bush down with him!

n		20-Aug-2005 03:57
Ted, Thanks for stopping by my gallery. I saw a sign the other day that summed up the way I think about what's going on in America now. It said Complacency = Complicity. No one will ever accuse the two of us of that! Keep up the good work with your political galleries here on PBase. n

Ted Levin		20-Aug-2005 01:11
Love this Gallery!! When in the Hell is the Bush Administration going to be held ACCOUNTABLE for their deeds? When is America going to wake up and realize that Bush is really bad for America? Bush had an opportunity to bring the US and the world together after 911 but he foolishly blew it. God Bless America and God Bless the World. Hope to see many people in Washington DC on September 24th.

n		16-Aug-2005 16:39
Marylin, Part of the problem with JUST working for and supporting political candidates is breaking through the media and campaign propaganda. Democracies only work when there is an educated voting public. Until the public holds politicians responsible for their actions, they will continue to vote for pork and special interests who line their pockets. One goal of this site is to get persons to think about issues and how they affect their lives.

Guest		16-Aug-2005 07:08
Popped into this gallery out of curiosity.....wish I had not. I have always been politically active and grew up on the 60's and went to UC Berkeley and yes was active then too. ArmChair politics doesn't work.......all of you get off the computer and work for the candidates that support your points of view. If you do not then you only have yourself to blame when you get what you get. I resent the people who are not Americans telling me what I should or should not believe. If we pulled all of our Foreign aid back into this country we would have a surplus and not a deficit. Now that would sure have my vote. We should be more self reliant on our own resources instead of importing from other nations - be it oil or farm products. We would not have to subsize everyone for NOT producing products for consumption and we would have more money in our budget. Be involved....look for solutions instead of sitting on your butts complaining.

Moderate for sure		10-Aug-2005 14:45
Thanks for the images. The footage of Georges middle-finger salute is real and very well known. He was just having a little fun in front of the camera years ago. It was not intended to be aired. Does this make him a jerk? Maybe. What he and his admin have done in office is far more offensive. I'm a pretty centrist in my views and agree with gist of this page. In my mind, I gave this guy every benefit of the doubt in the beginning. Only fools can standby his lies now. He has no credibility.

Guest		10-Aug-2005 13:14
How about NO politicians, Burmese or otherwise? They certainly can't be more foolish and ridiculous in Burma than in America. Say, how about more galleries of Frimfrong the friggin stuffed bear? That's about on the same intellectual par...

alexeig		10-Aug-2005 11:08
Again political crap here. We are not interested in US politicians at all. What abouit a gallery of Burmese politicians?

Guest		10-Aug-2005 10:45
There is no such thing as "Homeland Security" in America and the system is as flawed as it ever was. Unlike in the United States, where lower-end wage workers often are the last line of defense at air terminals, airport security is viewed as a career path in many Western European countries. Security screeners are often twice as well paid and vastly better trained than their U.S. counterparts. A major police or military presence is found at airports. In Western Europe, the salary range for screeners is as much as $10 per hour higher than it is in the United States, where the crucial gatekeepers are paid $6- to $12-an-hour. To the terrorists this is like taking candy from a baby.

n		10-Aug-2005 04:16
Hello Ming, I am not against big business. To the contrary, I support strong US businesses. I also support that US businesses should pay their fair share of taxes and fair wages for their employess, who make them the great businesses that they are. You site the Rush-Limbaugh-led Republican platform as if you wrote it yourself. You also make this out as if it is a Republican-Democrat contest. I am pointing out policies that are bad for the United States, and I would criticize them no matter who was in office. You mention Saddam and what the anti-war, amnesty international crowd was doing during those times that Saddam gassed his own people. Well, they were hoping that Congress would act to remove special trade benefits for Iraq. To our chagrin, the Reagan administration fought those efforts and defeated them. The same thing occured at the UN. "Under Jimmy Carter the U.S. applied sanctions to Iraq because of its human rights violations. Reagan removed the sanctions shortly after he became president. In the early 1980s, as Saddam was gassing the Kurds, Rumsfeld, acting as a special envoy for Reagan, turned up on the dictator's doorstep in Baghdad, and talked about how the U.S. needed Iraq and vice versa. Rumsfeld promised Saddam that the U.S. would support his rule, negotiating cheap loans and providing equipment of various sorts. He never raised the issue of poison gas. In fact, when the UN undertook consideration of an Iranian resolution condemning the use of gas, the U.S. worked against it." I commend you for your perfect English. It is amazing how persons with such diverse backgrounds can type nearly identical responses to these photos. It's as if you and the others are writing your responses from a script. Is it common for people from your country to refer to Japanese as "Japs"? Are you really Rush Limbaugh moonlighting?

Guest		10-Aug-2005 03:45
N, You listed all those fictious stories during Reagon/Bush years. What happened during Clinton years? China did not even have its own ballistic missiles in 1988. HW Bush put high Tech. embargo on China after 89' Tian An Men Masscre, it was Clinton who lifted that embargo and gave China the permenant MFN trade treatment, which made the US/China trade deficit trippled. The agent for Chinese Defence Ministry slept in WH thanks to Al Gore. Who made an effort to free Wen Ho Lee ? Clinton's attorney in general. Don't tell me nothing happened during those years (1993-2000). One of the reasons why those manufacturing jobs were lost to China is those unions who do not create producitivity but increase manuf. costs and sloppy lazy workers. I wonder why you don't like big business interests. Is it that you don't like your cameras, or your cars or computers made by those big business? I wonder why you are against wars against terrorism, against evil governments. Clinton doing-nothing after WTC bombing in 93 did not stop terrorist bombing American embassies and ship. FDR's treaty with Japan in 1940 did not stop Jap's attack on Pearl Harbor. After those events including Sadam killing his own people, I wonder where those war protesters were hiding???

Mike Harris		09-Aug-2005 20:41
Kinda sorta like that 'war on drugs'... did we ever win that? That's right... I forgot, recreational drugs are 'okay'... prescription drugs that cost FAR MORE than the recreational type are 'bad'... Afterall, we wouldn't want to undercut the cartels with cheap medicine. Some of the folks on here sound like experts on Bush's mission in Iraq. I think they ought to take the time to drive over to Crawford and explain to that woman who's camping out there why her son died and what he died for. Obviously Bush doesn't know, or he wouldn't be sending his yes-men out to repeat the same rhetoric to her that he's had then spewing from the podium at the White House, he'd be out there talking to her himself. Afterall, REAL commanders have to write those letters and meet with the fallen's kin, why shouldn't the C-in-C? And the one that said when Clinton lied 'many died'. I'd like to see a breakdown of the direct corealation of his deception to the USS Cole and such. The suggestion that his lie led to terrorism is a pathetic way to weasel out of defending Bush's lie which HAS led to terrorism. You're suggesting that Clinton is responsible for OKC, for the Cole, for WTC'93... That's just sad. But hey, it's a free country - believe what you want and I'll do the very same.

Guest		09-Aug-2005 13:50
Trying to rid the world of terrorism by killing all the terrorists is like trying to rid the world of malaria by killing all the mosquitos. This war can never be won and Bush knows it. Those of you who believe otherwise might consider turning off CNN once and awhile and thinking for yourselves. VOTED

Guest		09-Aug-2005 13:26
George Bush is a the most pathetic example of an American president ever. Yet it's not Bush that disappoints me so much as the the mindless, uninformed, easily manipulated American public that voted him back into office. And perhaps the Democrats are as much to blame for allowing him to win a second term when they should have blown him out of office after he cheated the voters out of the first election. The terrorists can and will strike whenever they wish regardless of what you're told or what you believe to be true by your Republican-owned media companies. They will wait, they will plan, and they will strike again and you can do nothing about it regardless of what you're told. Then you'll see how much of a fraud this homeland security rhetoric really is. I certainly don't side with the terrorists, but they are definately more intelligent, better informed and more determined than George W. Bush and his adminsitration of clowns. America will never win this war and will suffer economically for decades to come to pay for a pointless war which now costs you American taxpayers one billion dollars per day to operate. To make matters worse, America is currently a very confused, fragmented nation which makes it particularly vulnerable to terrorist attack. Excellent Gallery, voted.

Guest		09-Aug-2005 12:51
Freedom has a price, that is resolve and a steadfast commitment to protect it. Terrorists are very determined to continue their steadfast commitment to kill themselves for Jihad. So why not support tha war, you protect freedom and give the terrorists a jumpstart on death ? ? MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Guest		09-Aug-2005 12:42
Do not fear terror, let them fear the United States of America.. Crown thy good with brotherhood, from sea to shining sea..

Guest		09-Aug-2005 12:37
Would you support the war on terror if your children were blown to bits, on a bus ? ? ? I would..

Guest		09-Aug-2005 12:31
George bush he's our man, if he can't doit the terrorrists can, and will !

Guest		09-Aug-2005 12:29
George Bush is a good president, full of faith and strong resolve in fighting terrorrists.

Ron Wright		09-Aug-2005 12:22
Bush is the WORST president this country has ever had. He is a pathological liar and a homicidal sociopath with NO redeeming qualities. This gallery and every photo in it gets my vote.

n		09-Aug-2005 03:01
K.R. Why are you ashamed of photos about policies and a discussion of their implications for America and the world? Do you agree with Brittney? "Brittney Spears, after being interviewed backstage after one of her concerts, responded apathetically to a question posing why people might be critical or President Bush by saying "I think people should just trust the President." She said this as she chewed her bubble gum with the look of a lost child on the banks of the River Styx in her eyes. " n

Kenneth R. Allison		09-Aug-2005 02:10
...........And all you political monkeys make me ashamed to come to this website.

n		09-Aug-2005 01:24
Ming Yu, Bush gives great speeches about freedom and you fell for those empty words. He even openly criticizes communist Cuba, But kook closely at the man's actions. He does anything and everything to increase the coffers of big business interests, even at the expense of US security -- financial and military. http://www.aflcio.org/aboutus/thisistheaflcio/ecouncil/ec03112004m.cfm "The Administration has not even enforced existing U.S. trade laws with respect to China, giving more weight to the concerns of the retailers, importers, and outsourcers, than to American workers and producers. The Administration has failed to file any complaints at the WTO, despite the Chinese government’s repeated and widespread violations of WTO rules. And last year, the Administration refused to criticize China's human rights and labor rights record before the United Nations Human Rights Commission, despite abundant evidence of egregious human rights violations. This inaction by the Bush Administration is costing hundreds of thousands of American jobs, crippling our manufacturing sector, distorting trade and investment patterns globally, and leaving hundreds of millions of Chinese workers vulnerable and mistreated." http://www.devvy.com/200410271706.html http://www.devvy.com/200410271706.html Instead of trying to stop Chinese backing of AlQaeda and terrorist groups and nations, Bush and Rice have rewarded the Chinese by deliberately facilitating the out sourcing and in sourcing of more US high tech and manufacturing jobs to Chinese workers and by allowing and/or promoting the transfer and sale of sensitive US military (nuclear) and cutting edge, economically significant technology to China (smart bomb guidance systems). Bush and Cheney recently publicly promoted and aided the sale of US nuclear reactor technology to Beijing. Bush and Rice not only have betrayed US jobs, weapons and technologies to China, but they have also undermined the US ally and defense treaty holder, Taiwan, by publicly telling Taiwan it should not have held its national independence elections in advance of the elections. Advanced computer tech transfers to China by GW Bush in 2001-2002 have given China the capacity to build bigger and better nukes with the computerized US nuclear design legacy codes that HW Bush policies facilitated Chinese scientists, like Wen Ho Lee at US nuclear labs, in giving to China. The "Peace Pearls" program was started in 1988 by HW Bush and Reagan to aid China in acquiring US nuclear and missile technology and equipment. China also sold Chinese ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads to Saudi Arabia in 1988.

Guest		09-Aug-2005 00:47
I+E+D Try living in Iraq or China and you will realize just how much freedom you really have.Besides,I go to Taco-Bell.Name some countries where you have more freedom then the United States.

Guest		09-Aug-2005 00:15
I escaped from a communist country. The tyrant government does not like Bush, so I love Bush. The dictators favored J. Kerry and left liberals, so I won't vote for any democrats. I like this saying: "There are lots of bad republicans, but there are no good democrats." HaHaHa....

n		08-Aug-2005 20:46
m, Thanks for your support and inspiration.. I have admired your work since I joined PBase. Others may not know it, but I selected "n" after seeing your work. I selected "n" because I would be content if I could have half the impact on someone else that your work had on me. Cheers, n

Guest		08-Aug-2005 18:02
Ni ce to see you in the top spot ;-)

BruceLandry		08-Aug-2005 12:22
Yeah what ever!!!! The kids are still upset they lost!!! No Vote from me...

Donald Verger		08-Aug-2005 11:05
voted!

EMangl		08-Aug-2005 07:23
hey Ron, time to wake up: you are not living in a free country, except you call it freedom that you can choose between MCD and KFC

Guest		07-Aug-2005 20:36
Imean,REALLY!Does anyone IN THIER RIGHT MIND actually credit the Bush Bastard and his cronies with having america's "best interests"in mind?This war was-is-remainsa an obscenity,but one that is useful to corporate zillionaire's. ,oil tycoons and the morally bankrupt political creatures that cater to them & represent thier interests above all others..And the so-called"war on terrorism"has given these political creatures & thier masters the ability to abridge our fundamental rights while claimimg to be"protecting"us from"terrorists".Lastly is the consideration,as brutal as it may seem,that other peoples,other groups,other religious and/or social systems different than our own may well RESENT our repeated and arrogantly presumptive intrusions into thier business and may be responding to these intrusions with what we are calling"terrorism"If this is even party the case then this prolonged,unnecessay,costly and BLOODY war that Bush & company are perpetrating only serves to recruit more"terrorists",thus continuing the overall downward spiral towardsa fascist america and continual war and mayhem.

Guest		07-Aug-2005 09:16
POLITICS ARE OBSCENE REGRESSION As if you are sceptical about whether Western culture really is as civilized as it likes to pretend… With this brave comment on your own culture - the one that thinks Ronald Reagan is the most important America - you are expanding consciousness beyond the individual. The photographs are evidence of the will to unmask clichés and confront them with reality. Unfortunate, the meaning - as distinct from the image - is the part that is not always seen by everybody. This is an important gallery !

Guest		07-Aug-2005 00:28
I really don't see any right answer to end the war but I know that if we turn our backs on terrorism then sooner or later it will be too late to do anything at all,I honestly feel sorry for anyone that has to go to war but there just is not an answer to how to avoid it,As for the Hummer,I would not own one and I don't think that anyone that can afford one should get any kind of rebate at all.I laugh when I see one on the road knowing that they are throwing their money out the window everytime they get behind the wheel.But like I said,You can't tell people what they can and can't own if they can afford it because pretty soon it will come around to something that appeals to you and me that is getting taken away and that is a form of repression that shouldn't be allowed to happen or else we will no longer live in a free country any longer.:-)

AL		07-Aug-2005 00:22
I dont mind sending men to war if their is a just cause, oil is not a just cause. Bush is a man that is more interested in lining the pockets of himself and his friends and the expense of lives and nature. Bush and his party have long ignored what people want, peace, clean air and jobs.

n		07-Aug-2005 00:10
I'm a Vietnam vet as well, so that gives us each some personal experience to draw from. One would think that lessons would have been learned from Vietnam. For instance, if a country goes to war, it has to kill the right people. So far, that's not happening and the evidence is that the US is generating more terrorists than it is killing. Dropping bombs ("shock and awe") on a nation to rid it of terrorists is like shooting machine guns into the wetlands here to kill mosquitoes. It doesn't work. As for the hummer, do you approve of the tax rebate for buying a hummer? It guzzles gas which in effect raises the price for all of us. You and I, if you pay taxes, are paying for that guy's hummer twice -- with higher prices at the pump and in his tax rebate. Is that sound energy policy or cronyism? I call it corporate welfare.

Guest		06-Aug-2005 23:51
N just so you know My son would be in Iraq but he has muscular dystropy and is not fighting anywhere if he was able to he would go in a heartbeat,I was in the service and it was during the Vietnam war,I signed up knowing I may have to serve in Vietnam but was not chosen to go but would of done so in a minute also I am not supporting killing any of our young men in any war at all but I suppose you have a better answer,Maybe we could send robots to fight instead,And for your information my best friend lost his sisiter in the world trade center so I know how it feels when someone close to you loses a sibling,How do you propose to end Terroism just sit back and hope it goes away?Kerry would of done the same thing that Bush did and don't think for a minute he wouldn't of.As for the Hummer on my site I took it for a friend and if someone can afford to buy one and pay for the whole 9 MPG then that is his buisness not mine after all this is America not Iraq.If the government turned around and said no one could own a Hummer then people like yourself would have something else to complain about,I have an idea,Why don't some of the complainers on this site run for president I would like to see if you could do any better.

Mike Harris		06-Aug-2005 17:07
Great Gallery. Proof positive that you don't have to be a Republican to be a great American as many so-called 'patriots' would try to lead you to believe. I think it's great that you have made a statement here, defended your position without compromise and continue do so without fail. A lot of people seem to follow Bush with almost Waco cult-style fanaticism. All politicians lie, tell you what they think you want to hear. Or has Kruschev once said, "Promise to build you bridges where there is no water." Unfortunately, too many times the wrong people pay the price for such dishonesty. Yes, Clinton lied, but then again, he didn't lie to justify the invasion of a foreign country. I'd have preferred it had Bush focused solely on capturing Osama Bend Over first. Afterall is was Bend Over who orchestrated the attacks on our country. It is his organization that is responsible for a vast majority of that attacks worldwide. Saddam was ruthless tyrant and murderer, but he didn't plan 9/11 or Bali, or Kenya, or Sudan, or London, or Madrid. Following the Republican mind-set in saying that "if you're going to be an American, you're either with us, or with the enemy" is just wrong. It's anti-American and it will be that very mind-set that destroys this country - and the terrorists will have won because getting us to tear each other apart is exactly what they'd love to see. I'm not for either party - both parties have their pros and cons - but I am for an America where all its citizens support each other's God-given right to be heard.

n		06-Aug-2005 16:09
Ron, I hope you have encouraged your family members to fight in Iraq since you are so supportive of Bush's "optional" war. The World Trade Center was attacked by mostly Saudis. Why are you supportive of killing US young persons and tens of thousands of Iraqis, women and children included, for something they had nothing to do with? btw, I looked at your site. I see you have a photo of a hummer on yours, too. Did the person who bought that one get a nice tax break for buying it? You can certainly THANK BUSH for that! I hope Bush's liberal tax policies for wealthy persons are not biasing your opinion about what is patriotic and good for the US. I hope too that you are reading current news, such as the Downing St Memo etc that show that the Bush administration was dishonest with its citizens about the reasons for going to war.

Guest		06-Aug-2005 14:55
Thank God Bush was elected and not Kerry,For all you Kerry lovers why don't you go and live in Iraq and see how long you make it,Better yet maybe if a brother or sister of yours died in one of the twin towers you would have a different view of us being in their country,Grow up,We didn't get to be the Country that we are by running and hiding or being pacifists by turning the other cheek.Like John said,Maybe if someone did something to one of your loved ones or your property you would have a different point of view.Have a nice day:-)

Guest		06-Aug-2005 05:06
Satan can always be counted on to shoot himself in the foot: Bush has proved this again.

John Stuedle		06-Aug-2005 02:57
A very narrow minded liberal point of view. When a fanatic bomber sets himself off in your back yard, will you feel the same?

Guest		05-Aug-2005 18:58
Congratulations. . . you've managed to do something important and meaningful with your photography. And not only in this gallery. It's been a while since I thought of the old phrase, "one picture is worth 1,000 words," but many of your images, obviously, have generated much more than that. Well done.

n		05-Aug-2005 16:33
Both of the previous comments take a very narrow view of death by counting only US deaths. It doesn't make much sense to me to argue about whose actions resulted in the most US deaths -- instead, look at the big picture of whose actions promoted global peace. As for Sam Antonio -- is FOX news your source? The persons responsible for the first world trade center bombing and the OK. City bombings were convicted of their crimes. Are you suggesting that Clinton should have attacked Iraq after these crimes rather than convict the perpetrators?

Guest		05-Aug-2005 04:24
Sam, 18 vs 1800? Did nothing? You mean Clinton'd have invaded Iraq? How come Bin Laden is still at large? How come Al-Qaeda remains capable of major attacks 4 years after the "war on terror" began? Not defending Clinton, but W seems to be the worst president ever.

Guest		05-Aug-2005 00:15
When boy clinton lied many people died. Just one example of many would be the disaster that led to deaths of 18 American soldiers in Mogadishu in 1993. I will never forget the images played on television as the body of an American soldier was being dragged in the streets. But what was evcn more revolting was that the boy clinton administration did nothing - as they did nothing after the first World Trade Center bombing, the attack on the U.S.S. Cole, the Oklahoma City bombing, etc.

Guest		04-Aug-2005 23:20
n, Nice gallery. I think the one thing that the comments section exposes here is a tendency for those that disagree with your views to respond like spoiled children. They hurl insults, refuse to listen to the opposite positions, and dodge any implication that they might be wrong. The world is only in black and white for them, and those that disagree are 'liberal'. I wonder if this entire behavior at this point is just pathological-- they've been doing it for so long, they can't believe in another way to be. It's not the photos, so much as the reaction to them. Just the sheer amount of anger and rage, that's the real indication that there's something broken about people's ability to communicate with one another. That, in my mind, makes these images interesting, moreso than the images themselves.

Guest		04-Aug-2005 19:36
I love it.... At least when Clinton lied, NO ONE DIED!

n		03-Aug-2005 20:20
Otis, Give me an email address that I can verify and I'll let you post -- and I'll list my Vietnam Vet service record and my combat ribbons. It will also give me an opportunity to meet more formally a fellow vet. Republican leaders claim to support US servicemen -- then they denigrate policy critics by attacking their combat service records The list is long. Most recently, Paul Hackett's record was attacked. Why personal attacks? I believe it's because (they and you) can't support their policy. If you support the war so much, go over to Iraq. Being a member of the 101st Keyboardists here on PBase and attacking me -- a Vietnam Vet who served honarably -- is not supporting the US troops. The war and character assasiination, though, are only two of many policies and issues listed in this gallery of photos. n

n		02-Aug-2005 23:05
Otis, I have the most liberal posting policy of all the PBase poltical galleries. That said, I will not stand for racist comments. That's why yours were deleted. You are demanding data from me -- who are you? Why don't you register for Pbase, post some pics and THEN return to critique mine. Otherwise, you are apparently just a troll trying to provoke arguments. For all I know, you could be the same self-reported liberal-hater posting in all of my galleries under a variety of names. The message is in the photos. Join Pbase or you can't post in my galleries. I just changed the settings. n

Otis		02-Aug-2005 21:53
Hey "n"...why did you delete my post on your "Peace" pictures gallery? Couldn't take an opposing view? Couldn't tolerate a few facts which challenged your world view? You are just a demogogue with a camera. As for your claim to be a Vietnam veteran, lay it out homey: what unit were you in? Not just the division, but the battalion and company. When were you in the 'Nam? What was your MOS? and give us the alpha-numeric designator, not "infantry" or some generic term liberals like throw out to hide behind. Those of us who DID actually serve will know if you are full of sh*t and another liberal lying about "serving" or you're telling the truth. Let's have it: branch of service, division, battalion, company, MOS, the time period you were there, and the RVN province you were in. Delete this post (or any of my posts) and I'll be on you like a tick. Allow me to comment like everyone else and I'll not hassle you.

n		02-Aug-2005 01:24
Ethan, It's nice that you have fond memories of President Reagan, but living in the past doesn't solve today's problems. We are not fighting the cold war and expending US treasure for an uncecessary war is not prudent fiscal behavior. It doesn't make us stronger. If Bush wanted to fight a war to get Americans behind his policies, he should have attacked a country without an army like Grenada, as Reagan did. I won't write in depth about Regean's spending policies that caused the US deficit and homlessness to increase dramatically under his rule --- I don't speak illy about the dead.

Guest		02-Aug-2005 00:47
"Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. was too strong." - Ronald Reagan

Patriotic Republican		27-Jul-2005 05:55
I think Bush had made the right decision going into Iraq. Do you Liberals want Saddam to just keep killing innocent people. How would you like to be over there with Saddam harassing you everyday. Going to Iraq is no different than the North invading the South in the Civil war to free the slaves. Go George W. Bush.

A Patriot.		14-Jul-2005 05:29
I am proud to be an American. But I am ashamed of a government that has deceived this great nation into entering a war under false pretenses and justified breaches of basic international law and fundamental human rights on semantic word games, and in the process irreparably damaged the once honorable reputation of Americans throughout the world. I am proud to be an American. But I am ashamed of an America that cares only about its own self-interests and forces its far-from-perfect culture, policies and values upon others - often through the barrel of a gun. An America that believes simply that might makes right. I am proud to be an American. But I am ashamed of my fellow countrymen for allowing themselves to be misled in a direction many of us would not have allowed ourselves to be led 20 years ago. Instead, we allow our government to stoke and manipulate our fears so that they can restrict the rights of ALL Americans. A fear so pervasive that it sends the population of an entire city running panic-stricken into the streets if one small plane flies where it should not. I am proud to be an American. But I am ashamed of a society that has become so divisive and fractured that it is now politically incorrect to discuss politics in social gatherings, opponents of one's cause are dismissed as wackos and less worthy of human decency and simple courtesy, and the opinions of our foreign friends and other outsiders are not worthy of any consideration. I am proud to be an American. But I am ashamed that there are now so many who would simply dismiss any criticism of this great country or its leaders as un-American and unpatriotic. How ironic that a nation which once taught the world that democracy cannot survive without an educated citizenry being constantly vigilent against the excesses and abuses of government power now views critical debate as undemocratic and treasonous. I am proud to be an American. These days, however, I am ashamed to be proud.

Guest		18-Jun-2005 15:14
Living abroad and traveling quite a bit I realized that in the past years since Mr. Bush is in power the so called anti americanisme has increased many times worldwide. Not because of the "americans" but of the americans who voted for Mr. Bush. I am happy to see that americans also have another critical side. I also realize that the american nation never has been so strongly divided . But as long as the majority of americans are not able to look further then their own backyard the old roman political doctrine of: " as the long as the majority of population has bread and games (hamburgers and baseball) they will stay quiet" still works. How many americans would be able to point out Irak on a world map without big descriptive letters? As long as patriotisme is defined as "one american life is worth thousands of other non american lives' it will stay like that. Every country needs time to evolve to a better nation, Afghanistan, Irak, Russia, Colombia....... and so does the U.S.A... There is still hope, as long as there are poeple like you around and I am hoping with you.

Dave Wyman		08-Feb-2005 11:05
"In fact, I would say that is the prominant opinion of liberals" This is an unsupportable generalization. There is nothing factual in your assertion. Back it up. "And almost all of the intelligentia shares this view. I know the day after the attacks I sat in class and listened to professors lecture about how it was all America's fault. I would bet a vast majority of "peace" protesters you showcase in your gallery would say that America got what it deserved." Jason, there is a reason professors make up some of the "intelligentia." They are intelligent, but not necessarily liberal. On the other hadn, while all conservatives are not stupid, most stupid people are conservatives. In your reality, if someone doesn't agree with you, they are wackos. To you, that appears to include most liberals. However, if someone on the right - Pat Robertson, Jerry, Falwell, etc. - say something outrageous, you claim they don't actually speak for conservatives. You're like a sloppy or unethical scientist: you throw out the evidence that doesn't meet your hypothesis. You're also in denial of reality, the world of facts that exisst whether you believe in them or not. The war in Iraq, for example, has been a horror, and made the U.S. and the world less safe. You sit safely in a class - are you too young to join the U.S. military? Do you plan to join if you haven't served, already? Have you read the paper today to see how many more people have died for nothing in Iraq?

Guest		25-Nov-2004 04:52
As bondheaded and stupid as Pat Robertson/Fallwell's much publicized comments were, they are still quite different than the views expressed by the wackos in your gallery. First, as you note, they did apologize for them. Second, their point; as even your article you link points out, was that the increased secularization of the country lead to God's removal of protection, not that he is directly punishing America, nor did they ever claim that the terrorist acts were to be praised. Third, I would say they don't really represent the religious right; at least on this issue, as the huge backlash against them even by religious conservatives demonstrated. I have no doubt that there are some psychos out there who feel this way, but it's a small percentage within even the relgious right. And I could just as easily point out much more prominant people on the left that feel that America is to blame for the 9/11 attacks. In fact, I would say that is the prominant opinion of liberals. Where Fallwell and Robertson think abortion and gays are to blame, the left thinks American foreign policy is to blame. Just look at some of the comments of Michael Moore in the days after the attack, or for a more respected voice the writings of Noam Chomsky about 9/11. And almost all of the intelligentia shares this view. I know the day after the attacks I sat in class and listened to professors lecture about how it was all America's fault. I would bet a vast majority of "peace" protesters you showcase in your gallery would say that America got what it deserved. I must say that even though I doubt we agree on much, I at least respect the fact that you are willing to engage in a civilized debate, unlike many others. And kudos for some pretty interesting photography as well, I always like looking through the protest galleries, there's something intriguing about them, sort of like how you can't help but look at a car crash.

n		24-Nov-2004 17:49
Do Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell represent the religious right? They later appoligized for saying what they did, probably due to pressure from sponsors, but many in the religious right share their sentitment expressed in an interview following 9-11. See the link below: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/f/falwell-robertson-wtc.htm n

Guest		24-Nov-2004 10:18
I never meant the photos were parody, only that your assertion that they represent the relgious right is unfair.

n		17-Nov-2004 22:24
Do the media cover anything correctly????? Falluja Arithmetic Lesson by Prof. Greg Palast Monday's New York Times, page 1: "American commanders said 38 service members had been killed and 275 wounded in the Falluja assault." Monday's New York Times, page 11: "The American military hospital here reported that it had treated 419 American soldiers since the siege of Falluja began." Questions for the class: 1. If 275 soldiers were wounded in Falluja and 419 are treated for wounds, how many were shot on the plane ride to Germany? 2. We're told only 275 soldiers were wounded but 419 treated for wounds; and we're told that 38 soldiers died. So how many will be buried? 3. How long have these Times reporters been embedded with with military? Bonus question: When will they get out of bed with the military? Monday's New York Times, page 1: "The commanders estimated that 1,200 to 1,600 insurgents had been killed." Monday's New York Times, page 11: "Nowhere to be found: the remains of the insurgents that the tanks had been sent in to destroy. ...The absence of insurgent bodies in Falluja has remained an enduring mystery."

Guest		17-Nov-2004 21:21
HOW THE MEDIA COVER ELECTION FRAUD NOW NOVEMBER 17, 2004. First it was nothing. Silence. Sprinkled with: "we've heard of a few irregularities, but all in all it was a remarkably clean count..." Then more nothing. Then more nothing. Then, "There is this thing called the Internet which contains a sub-category called the Blogosphere where people rant and make wild accusations and express themselves. It's a shame that bloggers are inventing facts about a stolen election. If only they knew how to put together real news. They're dangerous." Then, "People writing on the Internet and emailing one another are accusing us, the media, of hiding information about serious vote fraud. They even say our bosses are telling us to keep a lid on it. Well, there is no lid. And to prove it, we're writing this very story about the people on the Internet who are accusing us of conspiring to remain silent. See? We're not silent." Then, "Here is a list of all the stories that have appeared in the major press about the people who are saying we are conspiring to remain silent about vote fraud. This really proves it. We are not silent." Then, "We even interviewed Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, who is writing about possible vote fraud. He told us some nuts on the Internet think he was fired from MSNBC, but he's just on vacation. I mean, what more do you want?" What will be next? "A psychiatrist from Johns Hopkins states that bloggers are often people who feel a certain frustration over parental issues. They may even be depressed. Proper medication would be a good answer. On the other hand, a blogger may be right about something. Upton Sinclair was a kind of very early blogger. Even Freud, early in his career, blogged to no avail. The French inventor of Thorazine merely blogged until he noticed that rats, ordinarily very skilled in climbing ropes, fell on their backs after being dosed with the new drug. Human patients were immediately given Thorazine, and a revolution in treatment for mental illness was underway." JON RAPPOPORT http://www.nomorefakenews.com http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2004/11/16244.php http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00064.htm http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000715.html http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/05/loc_warrenvote05.html

n		16-Nov-2004 16:23
Jason, You are mistaken about the flag-stomping children who have a thank-god for Sept 11 sign. This is not a parody. These people are from a Baptist church in Kansas and they represent the religious right...... n

Guest		16-Nov-2004 03:49
My mistake. Looking through some of your other galleries, I've seen these little kids stomping the flag weren't part of your "peace marches" but some wacko anti-gay Christian group (with like 3 protesters from the look of it). I must have taken a bit of work to find some people as extreme on the other side as the wackos on the left you sympathise with. Apparently it's included in this gallery to demonstrate the bigotness of the average Bush supporter, which is probably even more shameful what I originally thought. Your comment "September 11 made Bush's re-election possible." juxtaposed with the photo makes it appear that people supporting Bush were happy to see Sept 11th just to give political advantage to Bush. Frankly, I find this kind of demagoguery disgusting, and one could just as easily (more so actually) use comments of the hard left blaming America for Sept 11th against Kerry the same way you have against Bush.

Guest		16-Nov-2004 03:20
Don't you know, only uneducated bumpkins supported Bush! There is no rational discussion possible; if you disagree with a liberal you are stupid or evil (or both as Bush is portrayed). Frankly, if you think the slides in this album are "facts" you yourself are quite uninformed (and from the propaganda you're spewing I'm quite certain that this is the case). I love your albums though; they really show the wackiness of the left. I'm alternately amused and enraged looking through them. I particularly enjoy the patriotic image of little kids stomping the American flag with a "Thank God for Sept 11" poster. I'm sure like you they have completely and rationally analysed all the issues and come to the right sophisticated conclusions on their own.

n		15-Nov-2004 15:31
dn, The electorial process is an ongoing one. It involves education and promotion of values. Given that many Americans who voted for Bush are unaware of some of the facts presented in these slides, I am offering these slides as an alternative to mainstream media. Try addressing the issues rather than your feelings. That is a good place to start. n

dn		15-Nov-2004 02:17
Get a life! Evidently the electoral process is only good and viable if it produces an outcome acceptable to liberals.

n		08-Nov-2004 22:21
http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/health/feeds/hscout/2004/11/08/hscout522235.html A health survey finds that the Blue state of Minnesota is great! The survey also found a slight rise in the infant mortality rate among U.S. newborns -- a first in the United States in 40 years, Tuckson said. "In fact, we're now 28th in the world" in terms of infant mortality, Tuckson said, with 7.0 deaths per 1,000 live births. That means countries such as Japan and Sweden are now twice as successful at keeping babies alive, Tuckson said. Declines in the number of insured Americans, as well as a concurrent rise in poverty levels, may also be slowing health gains, the experts said

Guest		08-Nov-2004 06:11
Dear "n", These images show the depth of ignorance of the liberal zealots. They show blatent lies about Bush. You mention name calling...LOL!!!! Look at EACH AND EVERY photo..they are lies and name calling towards our president. Are you that stupid that you blame and accuse others without opening your eyes towards the truth? Now, as posted before....Dear "n", click on the link below and head to the promised land up north.

n		06-Nov-2004 15:19
Guest, You address your message to "liberals." You should address it to patriots, Christians (and other persons of faith), and world citizens. The topics raised by these images are of concern to all of these groups. Why don't you address issues rather than name calling. The election is over now. Let's expose the problems and work on them. The first step in addressing the problems is agreeing that they exist. n

Guest		06-Nov-2004 05:42
Dear liberals, Please follow this link, fill out the forms, and pack your bags. Your useless asses aren't needed in America. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.html

DORIBELL		05-Nov-2004 22:30
I can't believe half of our Country is that stupid. How can they back an "environmental terrorist" a "war monger" and those are his good points. All I can say is Bush better spend the next four years cleaning up the mess he made in the first four years. Put that in your Republican pipe and smoke it.

Guest		05-Nov-2004 18:27
bush supporters sadden me. It is ironic that Bush is for the rich, but the ones that are speaking out for him seem like ignorant, stay at home, beer drinking, small minded fools

Guest		05-Nov-2004 16:18

Kiko		05-Nov-2004 13:33
Jon is an asshole,,,,and Bush is the anti-Christ.

Guest		05-Nov-2004 05:41
Thank you for the gallery. Your photos brought out a laughter in that I haven't felt in years. It was so funny to see pictures of a minority of idiots that can't find their heads from their asses. Oh well, they're confused, they're losers, and they're the minority. I'm sure they'll enjoy the ride now that the Republicans rule the Senate, the House, and we have our great president in power. God Bless the US and George Bush. I'm sure Kerry is throwing F-bombs as I write this!!!

gregory primo		05-Nov-2004 05:22
Hitler was a big winner too.

gregory primo		05-Nov-2004 05:06
Mind giving us a definition of "Moral Values"? Just what the fuck is that code for anyway?

Guest		05-Nov-2004 05:00
Liberty, Freedom, Moral Values rule ! Listen liberals ! America has spoken ! If you don't like Bush, Go to Europe and live with those backboneless, terror-appeasing monkey French !!

Guest		05-Nov-2004 04:55
W stands for Winner

Guest		05-Nov-2004 03:31
And the context of this is him playing around between takes. It has absolutely nothing to do with how you are portraying it. Are we to believe absolutely nothing you have ever done in your life could be taken out of context and show you to be something you are not?

n		05-Nov-2004 03:24
Enjoy the movie of Bush's "One Finger Victory Salute." http://www.atomiks.com/bushfinger.mov

Guest		05-Nov-2004 03:21
I'm guessing you have first hand knowledge that this is an actual un-doctored photo. I would like to see the proof of this. Show us the website.

n		05-Nov-2004 02:07
Guest, your intelligent comment matches the reponse of Bush when he saluted with his middle finger (see photo in this gallery). Another display of moral values. n

Guest		05-Nov-2004 01:55
Screw you, get over it!

Guest		05-Nov-2004 01:46
A tragedy...4 more bloody years!!!

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