Better than these: http://www.pbase.com/image/77751488/original, using a bread machine! I was cleaning off my bookshelves when I came across "The Best Bagels are made at home" by Dona Z. Mellach. Decided to try her bialy recipe. So much easier than the food processor and multi-rising half-day process required for my first attempt at these delicious treats. The book can be had used for mere pennies through Amazon.