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Candor High School vs Spencer-Van Etten High School

This varsity football game was played at Spencer-Van Etten High School on September 28th. Final Score: Candor 17, S-VE 10. It was voted the 'game of the week' for the fifth week of the 2007 season on http://www.section4football.com

Frank		27-Jun-2009 06:13
"Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends..." (in signing voice) =]

Guest		15-Jun-2009 17:23
haha whatever....

U sudHafBeenSwollowed		11-Jun-2009 03:24
Dustin ur just a pot headed idiot, your sports budget got knock down like 3 years ago. And other schools picked up the tab. Learn your facts kid. (its beacuse the parents knew you kidz cant beat Candor)

Mike		11-Jun-2009 02:55
Haha, Dustin, stands are filled at a lot of high school football games, and when it's the away games, they aren't exactly being filled because S-VE is in town. Get over yourself. It's NYS Class D high school football. Not exactly West Texas football, or even U-E for that matter. Congrats.

Dustin		10-Jun-2009 17:47
UMM we fill the f**king stands at all of the home games and most of the away games. So thanks and nice try.... :)

URmomissloppy2ndsallthetyme		09-Jun-2009 04:20
Dustin kid, truth hurts. Sad but true. PS Thats officailly. a correct statement

Dustin		08-Jun-2009 18:39
"I think your football team Dustin should have realized about 3 years ago when your buget get knocked down,that you guys suck, cuz apparently you towns folk knew that you kids had no chance vs Candor and they were like, no im not spending money to get my kids ass handed to him." This is offically the dumbest statement ever made on this page.

i tounge punch ur moms @$$		04-Jun-2009 18:05
I think your football team Dustin should have realized about 3 years ago when your buget get knocked down,that you guys suck, cuz apparently you towns folk knew that you kids had no chance vs Candor and they were like, no im not spending money to get my kids ass handed to him. But no you guys begged 4 money lol

waudi		01-Jun-2009 13:52
Dustin -HAHA is my number 98?? haha oh yeah thats deff. my number because we have so many over weight kids in our school. Ok dude. Our numbers don't even go that high so nice try." LOL your team jerseys dont go that high probably because school cant afford it. Maybe a couple of car washes will fix that problem. ehh

Mike		30-May-2009 03:48
Dustin -- Like 5jugs said, you clearly have had some problems beating Candor. I don't care how good Tioga was 15 years ago, it's this year that I'm talking about. I'm sure if you had played them on a regular basis, you would probably be able to win a couple. Honestly, I could care less how good Tioga was in 1993 bro. I'd be willing to hazard a guess that you were in elementary school last time S-VE beat Candor, so don't go running your mouth that you have had no problem with them, man. It just makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about, honestly.

5jugs		29-May-2009 23:11
dude you guys have had problems.. obviously we have won for 6 years straight plus a playoff game but no problems right you make me laugh DUSTIN... keep talking special team specialist

Dustin		29-May-2009 17:41
Beating Tioga was a big thing for us thank you. It has been a very longtime since we have beat them. About 15 years to be exact. And to call Tioga a mediocre team?? Ok thats why we didn't beat them for about 15 years but we had no problem with candor??? Explain that one....

5jugs		27-May-2009 23:43
hey guys i mean this next game is going to be no challenge... i went to my personal physic (Phill Jordan) and he said we got this in the bag. he said we have been believing and saying that we have got this for the last 5 years so if we keep praying we win. so we automatically win the game before it is even played. Go panthers. I love SVE yaaaa

Mike		27-May-2009 23:15
Dustin -- come on bro. I'm from Candor, and even I can recognize that teams like Candor and S-VE don't play anybody that good in the regular season. Odessa? Watkins Glen? Seton? Edison? Newfield? By no stretch of the imagination are any of these teams good. And in the case of S-VE, when you guys did play a decent team like Candor or Groton, you lost. When your most impressive win of the year is over a mediocre Tioga team, you really have nothing to brag about. It's the teams out East like Walton and Delhi that are tough to play. Groton was a really good team this year, which is rare for the teams from the West. But honestly, don't go bragging about "walking all over" teams that are just flat out not that good.

Dustin		27-May-2009 17:41
HAHA is my number 98?? haha oh yeah thats deff. my number because we have so many over weight kids in our school. Ok dude. Our numbers don't even go that high so nice try. Yeah because everyone in our school is sooo over weight..... NOT try us being one of the smallest teams around and we still walked all over almost every team we played. Its all good though say what you please, because we know the jug is coming back here when its all said and done.

Guest		26-May-2009 23:39
Frankie aint doin shit cause im his nigga

Guest		24-May-2009 03:30
leave the mothers out of this

Waudi		22-May-2009 14:06
lol

Mike		22-May-2009 02:58
Waudi - you are a tool. lol

Waudi <3 Dustin's MOM		22-May-2009 02:55
Dustin "Just don't get in my thats all i have to say." Get in your what.. Way , perhaps? Dustin you are just embarrassing yourself, kinda like your football team by not being able to beat us the last SIX games. i know its pretty hard to type when you hear me and your mom upstairs pounding the headboard against your wall all night. PS. I started all 3 ways :P , o ya and im coming back. whats your number kid? 98 or something probably because you are just some fat kid that comes out on extra point attempts

Dustin		21-May-2009 02:20
Well Mr.Waudi now you gotta get all grammer correct on me huh?? You think your smart?? Aww you poor thing get upset about the way someone talks..... maybe you should stick to the books and stay off the field. Sounds like you would be better off there anyway. Just don't get in my thats all i have to say.

Guest		20-May-2009 23:07
never heard the tape worm thing... but yeah im done with this cause i agree with ya its pretty pathetic to argue over this

Mike		20-May-2009 23:03
Listen bro, do you honestly think you can believe anything anyone says about another school? How many times have you heard kids say, "Everyone from Candor has ringworm!"? I have heard that stuff for years now. Is it true? Obviously not. My guess is one of your friends thought it would be funny to say that Candor sucks academically. It's a joke that you're even trying to bring up that argument on here. It's probably just as lame of me to actually answer, but I don't think a school whose Envirothon wins state titles almost every year, sends kids off to Ivy League schools on a regular basis, and receives funding for new and improved equipment and learning environments on a regular basis is a bad school. See, when you try to make an argument with really no facts behind it at all, you, in turn, are the one who looks like you've received "no challenge academically".

Guest		20-May-2009 21:25
i was starting D. and yeah i did screw up in my last statement... but yeah theres no challenge academically at Candor... so i've been told

Waudi<3Dustin		17-May-2009 20:54
Dustin "brust your bubble think before you speak" Plz o' Plz dont brust my bubble. o ya and i think i didnt think, i thought, because its past tense. Also before i Typed, not Speak because im not verbally conversing with you. Ps, Waudi is an alias, because im terrified of you spencer 2nd stringers

Waudi		15-May-2009 19:23
hey dustin whats your last name cuz ive never heard of your @$$ either. do you even start? come on now kid.

Dustin		15-May-2009 17:43
Weather you have heard of us or not doesnt f**king matter "Mr.Waudi" Im sorry but i havent heard of you either so get over yourself bro.So i would hate to brust your bubble think before you speak. But I will promise you that if you play football next year i will keep my ears open to find out who you are and i will step up and see how good you really are.......

Mike		15-May-2009 04:06
Hey Jared, your statement makes no sense. If it's not even a challenge to be ineligible at Candor, that would mean it IS a challenge to be eligible, meaning the academics are tougher. Not sure whose point you are trying to prove with that one. But honestly, I'm sure it will be a close game either way, but you my friend, are an idiot. Also, never heard of you. Doubt I ever will.

Waudi		15-May-2009 00:48
Jared Thoman i have never heard of u kid. lol . sit the f*ck down. Waudi

Guest		14-May-2009 22:15
yo this Jared Thoman the Best motha f*** on earth haha just kidding... but yeah i like how you say Candor is a better opportunity for school when its not even challenge to be ineligible so yeah candor can suck my **... and yeah its already decided that we are easily gonna kill you guys next year it wont even be a challenge

Dustin		13-May-2009 17:36
Im so happy I live in van etten hahahaha

Panther4life		12-May-2009 00:23
Spencer men <3 men

Dustin		10-May-2009 16:12
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dustin		10-May-2009 16:12
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

dUSTIN		10-May-2009 16:12
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

5jugs		09-May-2009 14:23
to tell the truth i guarantee that the little Rose brother will run your whole team over

Ya?		09-May-2009 08:58
Really?! An who would that be? You?

Dustin		07-May-2009 17:40
Oh trust me kurt will have someone blocking for him.......

Lol, k.		07-May-2009 03:35
Ahart ain't gunna be able to do much without Frank blocking for him. They have know other options really unless someone majicly apears and can step up to the plate as FB. As for Byrne being the best or Conrad being the best. Yeeeeeah... um no? we'll see what happens, know need to talk shit about whos going to win and blah blah blah, till it happens.

iAlsopoundBillsmom		06-May-2009 19:31
Bill you did not blow through our line, the only teams that we had a tough time blocking was Elmira ND and Walton. O wait you guys wouldnt know about walton cuz you guys couldnt get to the 2nd round of playoffs. (Tear) PS. The jugs have dust on them they have been in our trophy case so long.

Guest		06-May-2009 16:39
Sean Byrne is the best QB in the state. We did just lose the best RB in the country in Conrad, but we will have the new best RB in the country in Ahart. Our line is the best in the country too. We lose a lot on special teams because Conrad was the best kicker on the planet in any sport, but I still think with the best QB in the state and RB and line in the world, we should be okay. Only time will tell. I HATE CANDOR LET'S GO BRING THE JUG BACK TO WHERE IT BELONGS IN S-VE EVEN THOUGH IN 1977 THE FIRST JUG GAME EVER CANDOR WON BUT EVERYONE FROM S-VE STILL INSISTS THE JUG BELONGS IN S-VE NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE S-VE HAS WON IT THAT MOST OF THE KIDS DON'T EVEN REALIZE THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO JUGS NOT ONE BUT HEY LET'S BRING IT BACK TO HOME OF THE PANTHERS BABY!!!!!! i love you [insert new girlfriend I already love's name here]!!!!!

hepoundsmymom-thedude		06-May-2009 15:45
i cannot help but feel that neither candor nor spencer will be a threat next year so the jug game could make the winning teams season.

Dustin		06-May-2009 15:41
HAHAHAHAHA JUG 6???? thats not gonna happen....

Bill		06-May-2009 15:16
Candor sucks, I blew through their o-line like paper!!! I LOVE YOU SHANNON GRACE!!!

iPoundtheDudesmom		06-May-2009 15:11
Since when we doing shout outs to our girlfriends on this. but since other ppl are i will too! I love you MRS. AHART :p

Bill		06-May-2009 01:25
Screw Candor!! I'M A BEAST I LOVE YOU CHELSI NICOLE!!!!

5jugs		05-May-2009 23:54
come on conrad your a tough guy

5jugs		05-May-2009 23:49
i think frankie will come in and fit in with are whole school and bring 6 jugs home

thedude2530		05-May-2009 03:13
I will make you ****** pay!!!!!!!!! $30$

5jugs		05-May-2009 00:29
To tell the truth i think Frankie will be a good fit in Candor

theDUDE		02-May-2009 19:16
sounds as if it is all but official that lavore is soon to be a Candor Indian. if it wasnt for his stupid ex girlfriend he'd probably still don the red and black

will o.		17-Apr-2009 16:49
Straight from the horses mouth

Frankie L.		17-Apr-2009 11:12
Alright, Heres' the full explaination. My dad is good friends with both of the Candor coaches and had a complaint at the school one day where he talked to one of the coaches. My dad makes me a highlight video for every year since 2002. He ended up giving my 2008 Highlight to coach Bennet because he suposibly wanted to see it. After he saw it he gave it back to my dad along with a sticky note that had his number on it, so that I could call him if I was ever interested in playing for Candor. HE didn't personally come up to me and ask me to change school or anything like that, it was just an offer, no big deal. So after a while I started to consider it for something new. Thats when word got out. I have considered taking the offer many times and it's a big possibility.

4.4 forty- kid		11-Apr-2009 03:59
ya it pretty much ended spencer's so called playoff run. wicz.com/footballguide/video.asp?video=Oberbeck.wmv

shhh....		11-Apr-2009 03:57
this vid is better by the way :P-wicz.com/footballguide/video.asp?video=Oberbeck.wmv

Five ooo #50		11-Apr-2009 03:54
"Umm actually i talk to frinkie everyday and he told me that the coach came to him...." Umm actually you are wrong. Not a single coach has spoke a word to Franky. i to talk to franky a lot... soo umm no ur wrong kid.

Guest		11-Apr-2009 00:12
I'm sorry man, I get that you're trying to make your point, but I just don't believe that a public high school coach went out on a lamb and asked some kid to switch schools to play for him, and he just happened to strongly consider it. Like I said before, if there is any talk of Frankie coming to Candor I think it had to have been initially put into motion by Frankie and his family. Public high school football coaches at this level don't just randomly go try to get kids to come play for their school. Maybe if it was a school like Binghamton getting a kid like Jamar Smith to come from Johnson City (a jump from Class A to AA) it would be possible, but what would make Coach Swartz think there was a possibility of Frankie coming to Candor if he wasn't given the impression that it was a possibility by the Lavores in the first place?

Guest		09-Apr-2009 14:58
Umm actually i talk to frinkie everyday and he told me that the coach came to him....

yaay		07-Apr-2009 14:51
that vid is the coolest vid EVER!!!

Guest		06-Apr-2009 17:50
Kid is good, nice job on the video

yeah, ooook		04-Apr-2009 11:19
not funny i'ma have to slap you now. :)

stfup		04-Apr-2009 02:53
There were better hits on Vanilla Ice first album. :p

huhh		02-Apr-2009 15:42
This is a cool video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMCwT8jY-BA

huhh		02-Apr-2009 15:34
This is a cool video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMCwT8jY-BA

Yaallknowme		02-Apr-2009 00:27
i've talk to franky, and the candor coaches, and neither of them have even came in contact, since shaking hands at the playoff game, its mainly all hear say. Its totally up to frank to come to candor if he pleases and if he does come maybe its not even to play football just to mix it up, or a better opportunity for school. this isn't profootballtalk.com / rotoworld.com we dont need the rumors PS. Frank get your @$$ to candor so we can tear it up

Yaallknowme		01-Apr-2009 22:30
i've talk to franky, and the candor coaches, and neither of them have even came in contact, since shaking hands at the playoff game, its mainly all hear say. Its totally up to frank to come to candor if he pleases and if he does come maybe its not even to play football just to mix it up, or a better opportunity for school. this isn't profootballtalk.com / rotoworld.com we dont need the rumors PS. Frank get your @$$ to candor so we can tear it up

Michael		29-Mar-2009 02:05
I meant to say "take Lavore from S-VE", not from Candor.

Michael AKA Bud		29-Mar-2009 02:02
Do you really think that a public high school coach would talk to a player about switching schools if the player in question wasn't the one who showed initial interest? Obviously if there was any talk of him coming to Candor it started with him. I guarantee Coach Swartz didn't just randomly talk to Frankie and say, "Hey, you should come play at Candor next year." I really can't believe this is even a discussion, it's in the hands of the player, not the coach. Candor isn't a private school or a college. If Lavore has interest in coming to Candor, let him have interest. Beyond that, don't start accusing Candor of trying to steal him away. Question: If Candor is trying so hard to take Lavore from Candor, why stop there? Why not ask Ahart to come play for Candor? Answer: Candor can't recruit players, they can't make kids come to their school. If a player wants to move to Candor or play tuition to enroll in Candor and play for the team, that's their prerogative. This is a non-issue.

Guest		28-Mar-2009 23:29
I would hate to break it to you there bud but candors coach has talked to frankie and asked him to go play for candor.

Michael		28-Mar-2009 21:23
I don't think Candor is making some attempt to go out and get Frank Lavore (Candor is a public school). They can't just recruit random kids at will. If there is talk about Lavore coming to Candor, then that is Lavore and his family's decision, not Candor's. Thanks anyway.

Guest		23-Mar-2009 17:41
Yeah of course take candors side bc thats where your from. We need someone who is not from candor or from SVE to say something and see what they think because it is pretty sad some of the things that are being said on here about both teams. They are both great teams and last years two games that they played aganist each other were great games. Lets just go out and give the fans a show. And honestly it is about time for a turn around with all of this and by the looks of things this might be spencers year. Oh and by the way if candor thinks that they are going to get spencers Frankie Lavore to go and play for them well they better guess again.

Michael		23-Mar-2009 03:36
I look forward to S-VE actually making these contests interesting again. Six straight losses? How boring for everyone to watch! I'm from Candor, and let's be honest here, it's not like Candor has been some amazing powerhouse the last few seasons, sure they win their 6+ games per year, but never really amount to much in the grand scheme of things (state playoffs). It's tough because S-VE has gotten to the point where a win over Candor would be equivalent to winning a state championship. I give S-VE credit for making it close the last two years, but it's really getting annoying hearing people from Spencer saying things like "oh we were the better team" or whatever, because realistically, you don't lose to a team that many times in a row if you are better than them, it just doesn't happen. It's honestly just time to let your game on the field do the talking for you, and everyone should stop posting on a website that has pictures from two years ago about how they will win it next year or whatever. It gets old. Let your game speak, not your keyboard.

Dustin Steves #52		18-Mar-2009 18:56
Yeah ok. You wait and see.

guest3		16-Feb-2009 00:35
OK water boy

Dustin Steves#52		12-Feb-2009 15:29
Yo I dont know who you are but I may not paly alot but I am part of the spencer team. And I do have the heart to play. Dont worry next year I will be all over that feild and candor wont know what hit them.

guest3		10-Feb-2009 00:02
im sure dustin steves plays a lot.... are you the water boy??????

Dustin Steves #52		06-Feb-2009 18:56
Its ok say what you want because Spencer is bringing The Jug back home this year.

Thanks		15-Jan-2009 07:19
Oh Guest, you know exactly what to say =) before I was so full of myself, but then you offered your kind words of wisdom. After reading your post, I said to myself, "Hey you know what, I should get over myself." And golly jeepers, I did. I wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart for helping me through this =) I hope that one day us Indians can unite with you Panthers and we can not only form a family, but form some sort of cross-breed mascot. Perhaps a cat with human-like instincts, called a Pindian. Of maybe a Native American that has the skills of a cat, i.e. never falling on its back and having exceptional hand-eye coordination. Guest, if you have any ideas of what our new mascot should be, please submit them! I look forward to hearing what else you have to say! Do you have a blog? If you don't, you should! I would subscribe! You changed my life in ways that you'll probably never know, and I truly believe, Guest, that one person at a time, you can change the world =)

Guest		12-Jan-2009 19:36
ALL OF YOU GUYS NEED TO GET OVER YOURSELFS!!!

44thethinker		05-Jan-2009 01:33
4thethinker... lol say what you want to take away the glory from Candor's seniors in the few past seasons, but I'm pretty sure you'll never know what it feels like to hold on to the jug for 5 straight seasons.

Guest/		03-Jan-2009 03:22
lol if anyone e-mailed you, you'd probably just try to have them arrested. nobody wants to talk to you one-on-one about your son in football, not because they are intimidated by you, but because nobody finds him that interesting. the only reason he is even talked about is because people from spencer (unfortunately) talked him up so incredibly much before the last few seasons. though decent, he never really lived up to the billing that everyone gave him from your town as the hardest hitting kid ever to grace planet earth. i'm not denying he is a decent player. but for you to get on here and try to defend your son and yourself against what is probably a bunch of high school boys, is a little lame.

guest3		31-Dec-2008 02:21
you need to get over yourself and your kid

Mr. Lavore		21-Dec-2008 01:29
This is my first post on this website and I think it is hilarious that I have comments addressed to me that I have read for the first time tonight. Its even better that my eldest Son, Frankie Lavore, is a pretty popular topic on this site...good and bad press. I am honored, as will be Frankie when I show it to him. Lol....I do however want to thank, "Guest" whoever it may be for saying wonderful things about my boy...sooooo Thank you Guest and I agree. I must also agree with Guest when he says that Cody Rose is an incredible athlete, he is. I am sure Terry is as proud of Cody as I am of my Son. Terry and I have always been respectful to each other. No matter what field we were on or who won, we usually always shake hands at the end of the game. He has complimented Frankie and I have complimented Cody. My son has complimented Cody, there is, and always has been a mutual silent respect I think. So for future reference if you need to contact me....instead of hiding behind a stupid name like, "Thinker, Etc..., my name is posted as me on this site and my personal email address is Frank535@htva.net. I check that alot more then here. I would love to hear any imput you may have on my Son... unbelieveable! As far as the posts from people who have a problem with my kid..... you are all entitled to your opinion, and thats exactly what it is...an opinion.

4thethinker		21-Dec-2008 00:50
Wow, all of you are ruthless! But thats what makes a rivalry, a rivalry. Just to add my small personal opinion. To win the jug is an honor. Candors seniors this year, last year and the year before have never really won the jug, more like.....just held onto it. It is still a good feeling I am sure but all those boys will never really experience winning the jug. They can thank the seniors from 03 for that. Actually winning the jug, taking it off the other sidelines, holding it in the air, is much more gratifying. I know because I have experienced that exact feeling. Hopefully the SVE seniors next year can experience that for themselves. Nothing against Candor but I am a SVE fan through and through. I think the tides are shifting, which was evident this year with two very close games..... and it won't belong before it sits at our highschool. Merry X-Mas all

Spencer52		21-Nov-2008 19:05
Yeah ok finally someone who just wants to call this even....THANK GOD yes ok lets call it even and good luck to you next year when we meet up again. Everytime we play it is always a great game to come and watch because you never know who is going to come out on top at the end. So next year just like every year lets go out and give the community a good game to come and watch.

Candor33		20-Nov-2008 03:41
Not sure how that was gathered from anything I said. You guys think you were better than we were when we were 11 though =( So can we call it even?

Someone		19-Nov-2008 19:25
As in you are too full of yourselfs and think that you are so much better then we are.

Candor33		14-Nov-2008 04:30
Sorry if we offended someone (pun intended), but his post kind of just contradicted itself. Not sure how that qualifies us for being "pathetic".

Thatsomeoneisme		14-Nov-2008 04:29
hmmm...well his son is not that good and he shouldnt talk him up. oh correction...he is pretty good on kick off, all american ??? he has my vote

Someone		13-Nov-2008 18:52
WOW!!! You candor people are so Pathetic and need to get over yourselfs!!! All he was trying to do was stick up for his damn son!!!

the thinker		10-Nov-2008 22:06
okay so u talk about calling kids out yet you say "to set mick thomas straight" when he said nothing about what u were talking about or to compair an 18 year old to when he was 11??? when casey smith was 11 he was a WR and now is the starting running back for Utica College's JV team this year,his freshman year. So things change... and honestly what schools are looking at frankie lavore... hartwick,st john fisher, Ithaca college... the same local division 3 schools that scout every play with any ounce of talent in area... congrats. guess what any 16 year old kid can get on a college website and email the coach that he wants to play football and they will recruit you so it is no great thing Your son's accomplished...and well truthfully..he is not that good sorry to burst your bubble but your clearly the type of parent who thinks your kids is way better than he is and you probably make him feel like he is really good so your both in a delerious world where u think your some kid of special person b/c you started for the spencer van etten varsity.... sounds like you should throw a party for you son on achieveing greatness already...

Candor Guest		10-Nov-2008 18:14
Ok Mr. Lavore. You complain about adults bad mouthing players, but you basically get on here talking trash about how Cody Rose got "shut down" when he was eleven years old. Why do you even remember another team's player's statistics from a youth football game? That same year, Candor beat Maine-Endwell. Would Candor beat Maine-Endwell now? I doubt it. Youth football means nothing, modified means nothing, even JV for schools that have it means nothing. That youth game featured kids who graduated last year anyway (I remember that team featured players for Candor such as Casey Smith, Nick Bartlow, Mike Atkins, Cody Little, etc.), so I wouldn't really say it was "next year's seniors". I guess we might just have to agree to disagree on a lot of this stuff, but I wouldn't quite describe Frank Lavore as unbelievable. One of the top players at S-VE? Yes. A good linebacker? Yes. Unbelievable? I wouldn't go that far. If you want to see unbelievable, go watch Binghamton's Jamar Smith play Henninger this weekend.

Candor33		10-Nov-2008 03:56
Did Mick Thomas even mention anything about Frank Lavore? I agree that the name calling should really stop, but I don't agree that what you do in modified, let alone pee-wee, really dictates anything of what will happen at the varsity level. I think there is no doubt that S-VE will have a good team next year, but what they did two years ago, or six or seven years ago, really doesn't have any impact on the outcome of the Jug Game now. I think that until one team is really just dominant over the other (Candor in '05, '06) these two teams will always play each other close. As the coaches at Candor always say, you can throw the records out the door when it comes to the Jug Game.

Guest		09-Nov-2008 15:14
First and foremost, I am a player's parent and my Son plays for Spencer. This morning I searched my Son's name on Google for a totally different issue and a link came up directing me to this wonderful comment page with my Son being one of the subjects for a couple of entry's. Whats worse is that even though a couple of entry's seem to be from players themselves ( Teenagers at that ) there seemed to be more entry's from adults, name calling and rude comments. It's amazing how the first entry on this page is from someone who stated that the pictures are wonderful and how she can save them to her PC. It's all down hill from there....and it gets ugly at that! Now having coached youth football for many years at Spencer and watching the ups and downs of the SVE -vs- Candor saga everyone seems to forget that there has been many games played between the Conrad, Ahart, Lavore, etc....SVE Panthers and the Rose, Thomas, Tubbs, etc....Candor Indians. If we were to add up the wins and losses between the two teams each time they met we would probably be about even. Spencer's seniors next year are the same boys that shut Candor ( Cody Rose included ) down in the 11 and 12 year old Super game in youth football. At that time Cody was a quarterback and gained under 20 yards. Spencer's seniors next year are the same 2006 undefeated modified team that shut Candor ( Jake Tubbs and Chad Rose included ) down just two years ago. Both contests this year were incredible games and could have went either way, everyone knows that. No team was better then the other, There was no blowout. It was just that teams day to shine....period. Instead of calling the players names and trash talking each other lets just enjoy the fact that both schools have great heart, pride and when it comes to the jug game both are incredible football teams. There was also a comment made about Frankie Lavore and I need to set Mr. Mick Thomas straight. Lavore is an unbelievable linebacker as well as a fullback. He has led tackles both last year and this season. Numerous colleges have already contacted him for his defensive skills and are anxiously waiting to see him play next year. Yes, he got rolled by Cody but watching the footage Cody was running North to South and Lavore was running East to West, bad angle and Cody went down anyway, thats what football is all about. Cody and Lavore hit all night and on numerous occassions Cody would look around to see who even tackled him. I also don't agree with trash talking Cody Rose. Rose is a truck! Period he is an amazing athlete and deserved to end his senior year the way he did. I wish him luck with whatever sport he pursues after high school. Yes, Spencer will be strong next year in addition to Lavore entering the back field with Kurtis Ahart next year we will also be blessed with Craig Ahart, Kurtis's little brother who is as equally talented. I am sure Candor will bring it next year as they always do and I am excited to see the outcome. Lets just enjoy the type of game we always get from these two teams win or lose ....it is always a knock em down no holds bar football game, full of hard hits and highlights, and never, ever a disappointment. Congrats to both teams for winning their divisions!

CHS>SVE		04-Nov-2008 20:23
the truth is that neither candor nor spencer are rising anywhere. the only reason either of these programs is going somewhere is a recent wave of good athletes through the schools. Candors coaches arent that great and spencer's coach has been there for how many years and finaily had a decent pair of seasons. it is all talent and talent alone. both teams were good this year but neither could ever even contend with walton. b/c we are to undisciplined and while we have 4 or 5 good players that make our teams good they have 22 so... we can argue all we want but we dont know what it is like to be a great team like walton does

Candor33		04-Nov-2008 20:20
I like to think I am pretty smart with Section 4 football and also know what I'm talking about. S-VE was 5-3 through through eight games (5-3 before each cross-over game) each of the last two years, at least through the games that count toward something (I don't mean that in a negative way). I agree it would have been nice to see someone beat Walton, but no Spencer person should act like it would have been their team that beat them. Until you see this team play, you really don't understand how good they are. I wasn't saying "good job on the cross-over" to the entire Spencer team or community or whatever, just to that person who felt the need to rub it in the Candor team's face that they lost to Walton. It was really just classless, and maybe what I said was classless, but it just gets on my nerves when people do that sort of thing.

Spencer52		04-Nov-2008 18:59
And thanks for saying "good job on the cross-over" It would have been nice to se a team finally beat Walton.

Spencer52		04-Nov-2008 18:55
Wow your really smart!! Ok last year we year 5-4 and this year we are 6-3 so shut your mouth if you don't know what your talking about. And Rising to the top means we are getting better every year. And we are not saying Win or lose aganist Walton its nice that u guys made it far and would have liked too.

Candor33		04-Nov-2008 18:30
S-VE vs. Walton result would have been the same as the Candor game, if not worse. Also, define "rising to the top". You had a 5-3 season two years in a row. I wouldn't call that rising, especially when you are losing one of your top running backs, linemen, and wide receiver.

Spencer52		04-Nov-2008 15:55
Candor you guys are so full off yourselfs!!! Spencer is rising to the top and you will se what we got next football season!!!

Spencer Player		04-Nov-2008 15:54
YOU CANDOR PEOPLE NEED TO SHUT YOUR MOUTHS AND NOT WORRY ABOUT IT!!! OK AND FIRST OFF WHOEVER WROTE THAT ABOUT US NOT GOING TO THE PLAY OFFS TO GET BEAT BY WALTON 60-0 I WOULD HAVE REALLY LIKED TO PLAY THEM TO SEE WHAT ITS LIKE TO PLAY A TEAM LIKE THAT

Candor Guest		01-Nov-2008 05:41
Walton could probably win the state championship. So Candor lost its final game, losing to the team that will probably go on to win it all (just like last year). I see no shame in that. It's time for everyone in Spencer to just get over Candor and realize that they probably won't beat them in any sporting event this year (except for soccer I guess, congrats).

Candor33		01-Nov-2008 05:36
Haha, you would rather not make the playoffs? You are telling me you'd rather have lost that game against Candor just so you could avoid the huge loss you would get against Walton? Man you guys are all so pathetic. It really just gets old. Candor will take the win against you guys. Good job on the cross-over though.

Guest		01-Nov-2008 04:06
WALTON 60 CANDOR ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha I'd rather not make it to the playoffs than to say Walton beat us 60 -0 Are you chaffed because your tails were stuck between your legs walking off the field?

Spencer		31-Oct-2008 18:07
Ok first off Frankie Lavore tackled that "fat punk" 11 times in our second game. And this is not Lisa Beach. We are only losing pat and kyle in the back feild and we have two more great backs stepping up to take their spots. Frankie Lavore is a force to be reckoned with once he gets his hands on the ball. I don't know who said rose and thomas had nothing on us but i give u guys credit. we both have great teams but next year that jug is coming to spencer!!!! Next years group of seniors will make sure of that!

Spencer		31-Oct-2008 18:01
What did Lisa Beach Post??

Guest Candor		30-Oct-2008 01:56
Lisa Beach, would u quit posting on here your son is probably gonna be embarrassed when he sees what you wrote.

douchebags		30-Oct-2008 01:50
ahart is a good back yes. i agree with mick thomas on that. and if you dare say FRANKIE LAVOR however u spell his name is going to be a force next year your completely wrong bc he will not be. ask him how hes feeling after he tryed hitting the "FAT PUNK" and the "FAT PUNK" flattend his @$$. anyways i agree with Mick that ahart is goin to be really the only threat. your qb will be good. but you guys will have to deal with FAT PUNK 2 aka chad rose and jake tubbs. Better luck next year but still wont win it.

Mick Thomas		30-Oct-2008 01:44
Conrad and Ahart are both very good backs, probably a few of the best in section 4 class D. I'll start with that. Now, I've watch the game film, and to say that Mick Thomas didn't have shit on you is ludicrous. he made just as many if not more tackles than Rose and had a sack and at one point made 4 tackles in as many plays To have double digit tackles and a sack is a pretty good game, especially from a defensive lineman in a 3-4 defense which is designed not for the lineman to not make tackles but open up holes for the Linebackers to make tackles (in case your wondering that is the type of defense a real team uses and can still stop the run, not your bogus 5-4 stack the box bull). so thinking mick thomas was not a factor is 1. reason why you lost, twice. now to complain about something you cannot control, aka a ref's call is a rediculous way to complain about the outcome of a game. everyone does it but im just saying that it is pointless b/c you cannot change that ever. one thing you can control though is your ability to stop cody rose, something you had two, well dating back to last year, 3 shots to do and in each and every game he has made you pay. IDC if cody rose was 230 180 or 300 pounds, he would still be a powerful and a strong back with good vision and decent speed (4.8 40 yard dash), not Aharts numbers but rose probably has 90 pounds on ahart too. your teams complete lack of strength and size is a reason why you lost, you couldn't have tackled rose if you wanted too. now i agree that ahart and conrad had good numbers but so did rose and also all three backs numbers were extremely inflated due to one 50 plus yard run by each. also candor held ahart 30 yards under his season average ypg. conrad had a good game but was a non factor minus a long pass the first game. so to say your backs ran all over us is false and to say rose is just a fat punk is false and to say that mick thomas didnt have shit on you is false. the only truth is... That Candor's Seniors will never have to know what it is like to lose a jug game while spencer's Seniors will never know what it was like to win one. Spencer hasnt beaten candor since 2003 and to come on here and talk about how your team is so much better than candors is gonna have to wait til you finally beat us again. which by the way probably wont be next year b/c Ahart will not single handedly win you all your games.with out the trio of conrad ahart and kline your offense will be not very diverse and easy to read.

douchebags		30-Oct-2008 01:32
looks like some fat punk ran all over your spencer @$$. Better luck next time. You guys will get another dose of the Younger Rose Running all over your @$$. O yea and have fun playin movavia for nothign while we are in the first round of playoffs. and if you comment back saying your going to lose again walton. it dosnt matter bc we kicked your @$$ all over the field this year :)o yea and its been how long sense you guys have beat us. forgot the count. Have Fun crying :(

Candor33		30-Oct-2008 01:07
Hey, maybe it was forward, doesn't change the fact that nobody from Spencer thought to at least maybe.. I don't know.. chase the kid running the ball toward the end zone? Cody Rose and Mick Thomas both shut you down. Cody Rose is a fat punk? I know a lot of fat kids that would be easy to tackle, what's your excuse? "Oh well umm.. he's just so fat.. and he's just such a punk.. and that makes him better at football than everyone on our team.. uhh.. yeah.. he's a fat punk! That's why he's dominated Spencer 3 games in a row because he's fat!" Good call. I'm not sure how you can make the argument that Spencer would have won in over time because you shut Candor down? Last I checked, you didn't shut Candor down on that 44 yard pass? Where were you guys on that one? Ahart and Conrad walked all over the defense, and offense? I guess I missed this. Ahart is slippery, he's good no doubt. Conrad is a decent threat, but as it has been shown in the last 3 years/4 games, he is no Cody Rose. At least not at football. But two guys that walk all over someone's defense don't usually end up losing. You just have no idea what you're talking about really. Did you see where I admitted that Conrad and Ahart were both good? See? Up there? That's me being realistic. Whoever you are, you'll never be realistic. And just like a lot of people on your team, and the teams before you, you will think of every excuse for why you didn't beat Candor. Hint for the future: less time talking and more time playing is a good way to start.

Spencer 5-3		29-Oct-2008 18:26
Ok the first touchdown you guys had on us was a bullshit call. The ball was being thrown foward. And that first one shouldn't have counted. Second Mick Thomas didn't have shit on us, our problem was Rose. And ok the Jug Game we would have won that in over time because towards the end we started shutting you guys down and theres no doubt we would have won that. And ok Cody Rose is just some fat punk who can run people over because he is fat. And Candor has no anwser for Kurtis Ahart and Kyle Conrad. Which walked all over your Offense And Defense

CANDOR7-1		28-Oct-2008 01:49
I'll give it to you that the 1st game was lucky, though there is no saying that Candor wouldn't have still won if say we went into over time. also i feel it was just as lucky for spencer to score two 4th quarter TD's against a D that shut them down all game. The second game came down to coaching as it was evident both these teams were pretty equal. candor won solely because candor utilized it's strengths better al la the "jumbo" package. also SV-E had no answer for Cody Rose or Mick Thomas as they were both outstanding defensively getting probably more than half of candor's total tackles. You have a very good team and while speed kills when the other team has a 235 pound fullback/linebacker and a 345 pound defensive tackle who both are college material you have to do something about it. i think Spencer failed to key on Rose defensively and failed to run away from him and Thomas Offensively and it killed them in the end. i would also like to say that you dont get lucky twice, candor is and was the better team this season and that is fact so deal with it and please spencer people get with the program and use the syracuse.com forums syracuse.com/forums/hsfootball here is where people talk about stuff that make a difference not tims GOTW pics

Candor33		27-Oct-2008 20:54
How many times is Candor going to beat Spencer and have it be purely out of luck? How were any of the three touchdowns lucky at all? Let me know.

Spencer Player		27-Oct-2008 18:20
You Guys Got Lucky With the playoff game!!!!!!!!!

Candor33		27-Oct-2008 03:09
oh spencer too bad you can't play as well as you type

Spencer Player		23-Oct-2008 18:10
Well here we go Spencer Vs. Candor but this time its for a spot in the play offs!!! The funny that we have heard that u guys are afriad to play us again..... HA we laugh at u guys because guess what we are gonna make it 3 years in a row that u guys have been knocked out of the playoffs!!!

guest candor		29-Sep-2008 02:11
lost the jug ha ! YOU NEVER HAD IT IN THE FIRST PLACE

Spencer Player		26-Sep-2008 18:18
Well We have lost the Jug again in 2008 But candor got lucky with 19 seconds left in the forth quarter next year that jug is coming back home cuase next candor wont have nothing on us cause all ur good players will be gone!!!!

guest		13-Jun-2008 15:43
someday spencer will be good at football but til then candor will take care of the jug

bob kigh		23-Oct-2007 18:57
come play us again pads or no pads bet u guys will lose we lost b/c of play calling and candor averaged 30 or more points and only had 17

WINNERS!		21-Oct-2007 03:00
You guyz lost......but played very well! I as a Candor fan was very pleased with the way you played! It was a very enjoyable game to watch! Go Candor!!!!!!

Loser#1		19-Oct-2007 14:52
We may have lost the game but we have the best pics!!!!!!!!!!! Especially the one with number 30!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jennifer Drake		02-Oct-2007 19:22
These pictures are wonderful. How can I download to my PC to save? Thank you!

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