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Massacre of the Innocents
18-MAY-2008 Ade Reilly

Massacre of the Innocents

Seems to be alot of controversy over a certain gallery,here on pbase.
After visiting Poland in the summer I saw the remains of what this Vile
creature started and almost finished. I cant believe anyone would glorify
this man. If its for views n votes then it is very sad indeed. But I dont
agree with censorship. The simple thing is not to look if it really offends,
But it doesnt mean people are right or wrong if they look or not,curiosity killed the cat.

ME I'll let my image do the talking!!!!!
I decided to post it in here just in case anyone has forgotten....

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Stu Egan08-Oct-2008 10:30
Excellent! Gets my vote!

(Oh wait. No he doesn't.)

I can't even post on the forum topic now as it is locked, but here's my 2p's worth. I can understand shock and disgust at the thought of what Hitler did as a human (if he even falls into that category), but not shock and disgust at the fact a photo of him appears on a public photo-sharing website. I voted for John Cooper's gallery when there were half a dozen to a dozen photos on there, so I don't know how it ended up looking, but when I saw it I found the photos interesting from a historical point of view and, actually, very interesting for other reasons - in my mind they gave slight insights into Hitler's public face, the circus that surrounded him, they were interesting compositionally, and there was something ploughed into the images by the photographer - a sense of emotion or a driven need to capture the grandeur of the occasion on film for posterity. So, I thought they were good photographs, and I thought they were more worthy of being seen by more people than 99% of what I see on PBase, or certainly compared to some of the dross that's usually in the popular galleries, at least. Now that's all just my opinion, but hence my vote. Issues other than the importance and quality of the photos (ie how many hits the gallery would actually get) didn't even cross my mind.

I agree with Ray's point below as Ray has applied it to this image. It is important to remind ourselves of the terrible things that can happen in society. I think this is why, generally, people choose to visit Auschwitz and similar places - so they are aware of society's evils and do not forget them - and why, for example, people take photos there and then post them on sites like this. Photography has been so important in broadening our knowledge of what is going on in the world, and also by its nature has served as a reminder or learning tool for what has happened. So, I think that gallery of photos of Hitler fulfilled that important duty superbly. I am not trying to argue with Barbara or anyone that agreed with her in the forum, because I respect that is their opinion, but I definitely disagree with it. To express shock that someone posts photos like that to PBase implies by its nature that they were wrong to do so, and I personally don't think that is the case at all. I'm a bit dismayed that anyone felt the need to censor them as a result (whether it was the poster or PBase admin).
J. Scott Coile07-Oct-2008 22:27
I suspect it will happen somewhere in the future. Strong reminder.
Barbara Heide07-Oct-2008 06:39
Thank you Ade for posting this! I'm not defending censorship!!!
I was just expressing my schock...
I can see that expressing myself is actually promoting these pics...

still I'm sad
Cindi Smith07-Oct-2008 02:55
I think that this whole gallery is so powerful. And this image speaks volumes!
Ray :)07-Oct-2008 01:54
This reminds us that more than x-million are killed in a genocide - those murderers deprive untold numbers even being born in the first place. That genius Stephen Fry would not have been born had it not been for his grandparents fleeing the threat of persecution (and death) in the 1930's.
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