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16-SEP-2011

More On Shunting Controllers

This is the Flex Charge PV-7 shunting controller. They are inexpensive and among the best of the shunting controllers. Flex Charge makes very reliable products. That being said, your total time to "full charge" may be compromised with this type of controller. If you buy a "shunter" the Flex Charge is the one to get. I would still suggest a PWM or MPPT controller.


Please be careful with shunting controllers. These devices begin switching ON/OFF once the bank hits absorption voltage and they can really cut your "time to 100% full" by days, not minutes.


In the case of some of the Sunforce controllers, often sold at West Marine, they switch OFF at around 14.2 volts and they do not switch back ON again until the battery bank voltage falls back to 13.0V.


This may be fine for off grid where you often have a load that sucks the bank back to 13.0V very quickly, but, with a boat on a mooring, with no loads, it can take a healthy bank a LONG time to drop the surface charge back to 13.0V.


I have some customers banks of AGM & deep cycle wet cells that will hang out at over 13.0V for over an hour. That is an hour of lost charging time waiting for a cheap shunting controller to switch back ON, from the OFF state, and provide maybe 60 seconds of charging before raising the bank to 14.2V and then shutting off again. Sometimes these cheap controllers will never restore the bank to full, in the time you need them to, no matter how big the array.


Below is a video of one of the "better quality" shunting controllers, a Flex Charge PV-7. It shuts OFF at about 14.4v and does not come back on until the bank voltage has dropped to about 13.6V. The first video is showing the "current" but you can watch it turn ON and OFF. I applied a load of 0.1A just so it would go to -0.1A when OFF for the video. When you get close to full, upper 90's as a % of charge, your OFF time can be as much as 10-20+ times longer than your ON time with some cheap controllers.


Shunting Controller ON/OFF Behavior - Current




Shunting Controller ON/OFF Behavior - Voltage



In this case the ON time is about 5-6 seconds and the OFF time close to a minute to get the bank back down to 13.6v before it can turn back on again. This bank still had 20 Ah's to go and it would take 5-7+ days for this bank to eventually get "full" from an 80-85% state of charge with 5-6 seconds on and 60 seconds off, remove the 0.1A load and it would likely make this even longer..


It should be noted that before I took these videos the banks were charged to full using a shore charger until they were accepting less than .5% of C (capacity) at 14.4 volts. At this point, I left them on float for two more days. The battery monitor was then re-calibrated manually to full or 100% State of Charge.. Next I applied loads and removed approx 30 Ah's from the bank. I then monitored the time it took to replace the 30Ah's removed from the battery bank.


Contrast that Flex Charge controller, or a Sunforce, with a quality PWM or MPPT like the Genasun's and the difference in the last 15% of charge, and the time it takes, can be quite dramatic.


I recently replaced both a Sunforce and a Flex Charge shunting controller with Genasun MPPT controllers. On one boat "FULL" was cut from averaging 7-8 days to about 2 days and on the other boat "FULL" was cut from roughly 5-6 days to about 1.5 days. Same boat, panels, wiring, batteries, just a much better quality controller that does not turn ON/OFF, slowly, like a shunter will. A lot of the controllers you buy from "discount" solar houses & eBay sellers are "shunters".


If you stick with Morningstar, starting at the Pro-Star series, Blue Sky, Outback, Genasun, Rogue Engineering and a couple other reputable controller manufacturers, you'll be doing well. I've found the eBay stuff can very often be a scam, so be careful.


I have replaced a number of eBay, "so called", MPPT controllers that were not MPPT at all. The were complete scams. The harsh reality is that behind the "MPPT" sticker and box was nothing more than a simple shunting ON/OFF controller. MPPT & PWM controllers do not shut off for long periods of time like shunters do. The average Joe does not know how they should work so these eBay scammers often get away with it.


The Genasun MPPT's are a very good value for smaller for panels. Under 150W, that is pretty much all I install now. The key for me is the standby draw. All MPPT controllers use "some" current when connected to the batteries. The Genasun controllers are about the lowest I have measured for parasitic load.. A lowere parasitic load means during nighttime hours your controller is not eating into your sun up gains as much as some others.


When I have a larger array I will use Blue Sky, Rogue or Morningstar MPPT controllers, though I still use some Morningstar PWM controllers too.


Please be careful with "cheap" controllers as you often get what you pay for.


I generally buy from Northern Arizona Wind-Sun, Wholesale Solar, eMarine Systems (LINK) and a few others. I pay a little more but I know the quality is good and they hold up in the marine environment.


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Bryan Cripps 01-Mar-2016 19:18
Northern Arizona Wind-Sun doesn't sell GENASUN. Where do you buy them online?