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25-APR-2003

Staircase, Melk Abbey, Austria, 2003

To me, the most amazing sight offered at the Abbey of Melk is this spiral staircase that connects its library to its church. Awestruck, I stood at the bottom, looked up at the golden spiral exploding in a burst of painted illusions, and created one of my favorite travel images. The subject itself is very disorienting, and I wanted viewers to feel its dizzying pull. However, I also wanted to make sure that the picture was organized simply and cleanly. To do this, I start the spiral on its merry way by placing it in the lower left hand corner of the frame, and letting it explode diagonally upwards and to the right, until it comes to rest under a decorative orange dome just to the right of center. Most of my pictures have a focal point, a place for the eye to go. In this shot, it's that orange dome, which also makes the point of the picture. The orange dome is much smaller than the flights of stairs that lead to it, and its relatively small size shows us how large this staircase is -- a remarkable feat of engineering for its time.

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Phil Douglis15-Oct-2005 19:30
Glad you appreciate the full impact of that orange dome, Lisbeth. Without it, there's no picture! It was very difficult finding the one "sweet spot" with my 24mm lens that would allow me to embrace both the full dome and the full coil of the staircase with its base placed in the lower left hand corner.
Lisbeth Landstrøm15-Oct-2005 19:07
I like the fact that the dome is seen fully - both graphically and impressionistic. It gives the picture a sense of openness - the eye is wellcomed to the point where the fantasy must take over.
Phil Douglis01-Apr-2005 18:58
Thanks, Benchang, for this four word comment. It means a lot, coming from you. The term masterpiece to me means the best piece of work by a particular artist. I would not think of comparing it to the work of other photographers, because I do not believe in judgmental comparisons. It would be like comparing apples to oranges. However in looking over my own work to date, I would agree that this particular image is profoundly expressive and delivers that expression with considerable and immediate graphic impact. I can't label it as my best work because different images serve different purposes, and I can't rank them in order of preference for that reason. But I can tell you that this photograph does what it does about as well as I could possibly do it.
Benchang Tang 01-Apr-2005 05:02
This is a masterpiece!
Phil Douglis08-Jan-2005 23:30
Glad you have comparing my image to the one from Malyshka that Henk linked us to. You can learn a lot from the differences, and I have described them in my response to Henk.

I always play with light balance, Dandan, and compare effects as I shoot. In that way, I can pick the one that works the best for my intentions. I rarely ever use auto white balance, which would give me the kind of shot that Malyshka made -- as close to normal as possible. I usually prefer the warm colors over cold, unless cold is my point. I think I probably was using daylight white balance indoors on this one, which, because of the tungsten light source, gives a golden glow to the image. When outside, I usually use cloudy white balance, which is just like using a warming filter. And later, in Photoshop, I usually add a bit of red and yellow as well, and increase the saturation a bit, too.

I built this image around that orange ball, and used a 24mm wideangle converter lens over the 35mm end of my Canon G2's zoom lens to make this shot, which gave me a much wider field of view than Malyskha used -- and that made a huge difference as well.

Your last sentence is the key to this picture, Dandan. I never shoot a subject just to describe the subject itself. I always try to bring my viewers into an experience where their own imaginations can take over. That is what has happened with you. To me, this image represents the sun, drawing the rest of our solar system into it, as if it were a magnet. No doubt the builders of this abbey were thinking along more spiritual lines, but that's what I felt as I looked up into it. Now compare this image to another spiral staircase I shot last spring in San Diego -- looking down, instead of up:http://www.pbase.com/pnd1/image/28249603 It's a similar subject, but an entirely different mood, vantage point, and message. To me, that San Diego shot is a journey that begins in light and ends in darkness, very much like the journey of life itself.

Both of my images were made to trigger the viewer's imagination. I welcome your comments as always, Dandan, and glad you are learning from them. The more you get inside of these images, the more you will learn from them.
Guest 08-Jan-2005 21:07
Phil, I have been looking at this image and the one Henk linked to…I love to see the two different views of the same objects. I have to say, when I looked at Malyshka’s image, I said: “wow, it’s beautiful staircase”, but yours, the intense orange colour, the flowing light, the dense orange centre, all together bring this image to a different level. It’s not just a staircase anymore, it bring us to a unknown place filled with mysteries…
How did you achieve the intense orange colour overall, just by using different white balance? I love the soft yet intense colour…
Phil Douglis09-Aug-2004 05:46
Hi, Henk,

Thanks for linking this image to mine. This staircase, one of Europe's most striking, is often photographed, but as you show us by including the link to Malyshka's photograph of it, it is not the subject matter itself that really matters, but rather how each photographer chooses to interpret that subject. I like Malyshka's image for the delicacy of its color, and the fine detail he presents within a partial spiral of gold on white. I used a different color balance choice, and a wider lens, providing a full spiral of yellow and orange. He used a longer focal length, which stresses fine detail but limits the amount of spiraling. He carries our eyes up to half of a yellow dome at the top, while mine embraces the full orange dome capping the stairwell. He stresses the wrought iron staircase, while I emphasize the spiral shape of the staircase itself. In the end, I feel that Malyshka's image speaks to us of the craftsmanship of its designers and artists, while mine offers viewers more of an architectural view -- the dizzying, soaring pull of the full spiral itself. Which image is more effective? The answer depends, of course, on the intentions of each photographer and the perception of each viewer. Thanks for locating this image and for linking it here, Henk -- you've given us all a productive exercise in visual literacy.
oochappan09-Aug-2004 02:30
Hi Phil take a look at thishttp://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Austria/East/Lower_Austria/photo25126.htm
I will put yours in his URL .....
Phil Douglis31-Jul-2004 01:40
That photographer has built his picture around several dynamics: our eyes do move from the child's eyes to the fly and back again, yet that movement is helped along by the repetitive flow of folds in the netting -- which in turn echo the flow of his hand. This is also a layered image -- we must look through all those folds to see the child. The child floats just under the surface of the net, staring at us, just as we stare back at him.
oochappan31-Jul-2004 01:31
About the example I gave, I was more thinking at the travelling from fly to the eyes of the child, again and again as I experienced.
Phil Douglis31-Jul-2004 00:39
Thank you, Henk, for commenting on this photograph. Of all the photographs I have posted here on pbase to date, this is one of my strongest examples of what you've called "eye-traveling." (Whoever designed this staircase must have had eye-traveling in mind.) It was my task to make this remarkable example of interior design into a photograph that stimulates the eye, the mind, the emotions, and most of all, the imaginations of my viewers. I am delighted that you have selected it for comment.

(As for the picture you linked us to here, I think it is a memorable image, and our eyes are indeed moved by the rhythms of that netting from point to point within the picture.)
oochappan30-Jul-2004 21:54
Astonishing wide range of orange color palet faling like a spiral wave into even more deep warm coloring shade bringing you to the 2 main colors brillant yellow with a clear orange spot. Only a small piece of contrasting black banisters remind us this is not abstract ! Again very strong eye-travelling here induced by spiral lines and shadow support. May I introduce, maybe too soon, a very good example of object eye-travelling:http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Asia/Cambodia/photo5475.htm
Phil Douglis27-Mar-2004 22:06
Thanks, Sean, for pointing out the off-center placement of the spiral. And yes, it is an actual staircase, connecting the library and chapel at the Abbey of Melk on the Danube River. The only "reality" in this scene are the railings -- while the staircase itself is real as well, basically all we see here is a beautifully painted illusion. No wonder it looked like a painting to you!
Sean McHugh27-Mar-2004 21:52
Very cool image Phil! I like your off-center choice for the spiral. This appears to make the image more closely mimic the natural Fibonacci spiral on a seashell. Was this an actual staircase? It almost looks like a painting at first glance due to the even lighting.
Phil Douglis30-Jan-2004 19:31
Take your time and come back when your brain is ready for more lessons. They will be here waiting for you, Anna.
Anna Yu30-Jan-2004 17:55
Phil,
You're right! This looks very much like my rose picture! I haven't gotten to this gallery get and am rationing myself to your lessons in photography. I'll be back!
Phil Douglis14-Sep-2003 02:43
Thanks, Doris and Magus, for your comment. This photograph is one of my favorites as well -- everytime I look at it, I see things I have not noticed before.
Guest 12-Sep-2003 10:19
A beautiful picture, an amazing orange spiral. Congrats.
Guest 08-Sep-2003 13:53
great! best regards magus
Phil Douglis07-Sep-2003 15:15
Thanks, Karen, for your perceptive comment. You are right -- without that orange dome as the focal point of this picture, this would simply be another one of those spiral staircase "nautilus" shots. As I said in my caption, the small scale of that dome gives this picture its contrast and energy, as well as much of it symbolic meaning. Because of it shape and color, it seems to become the sun itself, the center of the universe, and it pulls the entire image toward it as if it were a magnet. If ever there was a "stairway to the heavens", this would be it!
Guest 07-Sep-2003 06:19
Breathtaking! The focus on the orange dome is a spectacular choice. This is an exceptional photo on many levels.
Phil Douglis04-Sep-2003 19:57
Rebecca -- thanks so much for commenting on this photograph. You mentioned the "staircase becoming pure form" -- that is what vantage point shifts can do for us. By moving my camera position directly beneath this staircase, and zooming in to stress only part of it, I change a staircase into a golden spiral that is, that now becomes, as you say, "pure form". Thanks for viewing my galleries, Rebecca and for leaving your comments.
Guest 04-Sep-2003 10:14
This image is stunning! I love the colours and the abstract way the staircase becomes pure form elevates this into a 'photograph' not simply a record. Very well done!
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