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Thanks to all the visitors who left kind comments on this gallery, I would like to clarify though that I am not the author of these photos, they have been taken by different people whom I do not know personally. The authors of the pictures deserve every praise that you have expressed and more.

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Guest		09-Sep-2008 12:29
To AU79, thank you for your attempts to solve humanity's problems with your Stalin quotes, but I think you should shut the hell up. Same goes for anybody else who visits this site to help nurture their Islamophobia. You are the ones with blood on your hands and yet here you are blaming the Muslims for everything. After reading comments from non-Muslims on here, it's is abundantly clear that terrorism is not strictly limited to Islam, but is prevailent across America, Europe, Russia and other parts of the world where cowards reside. Go take your stinking anti-Islam propaganda out of here, because there is no Chechen war anymore, and stop trying to link Chechens with War on Terror. This is America's war, nobody else's. Just as Chechen war had nothing to do with you. Ramzan.

AU79		23-Feb-2008 20:30
To the Entire world, actual fact, to judge any country as a whole for the actions of their leaders is an ignorant way of thinking. The citizens of all countries fighting in the middle east or anywhere else for that matter, do not wish the decimation or dominion of these people in conflict. Nor do the soldiers who fight, none of the soldiers wish to be in war, the UK, Australia and the USA, none wish to be there, but that doesn't really matter does it, when the leaders of great nations decide, their will be done. I'm deeply disturbed to learn of the hatred most nations have for the USA and other participating nations within the middle east affair. "All wars are civil , because all men are brothers" but on the other hand, Death solves all problems "No man, No problem" Joesph Stalin. AU79

AU79		23-Feb-2008 15:37
To the Entire world, actual fact, to judge any country as a whole for the actions of their leaders is an ignorant way of thinking. The citizens of all countries fighting in the middle east or anywhere else for that matter, do not wish the decimation or dominion of these people in conflict. Nor do the soldiers who fight, none of the soldiers wish to be in war, the UK, Australia and the USA, none wish to be there, but that doesn't really matter does it, when the leaders of great nations decide, their will be done. I'm deeply disturbed to learn of the hatred most nations have for the USA and other participating nations within the middle east affair. "All wars are civil , because all men are brothers" but on the other hand, Death solves all problems "No man, No problem" Joesph Stalin. AU79

AU79		23-Feb-2008 15:36
To the Entire world, actual fact, to judge any country as a whole for the actions of their leaders is an ignorant way of thinking. The citizens of all countries fighting in the middle east or anywhere else for that matter, do not wish the decimation or dominion of these people in conflict. Nor do the soldiers who fight, none of the soldiers wish to be in war, the UK, Australia and the USA, none wish to be there, but that doesn't really matter does it, when the leaders of great nations decide, their will be done. I'm deeply disturbed to learn of the hatred most nations have for the USA and other participating nations within the middle east affair. "All wars are civil , because all men are brothers" but on the other hand, Death solves all problems "No man, No problem" Joesph Stalin. AU79

AU79		23-Feb-2008 15:34
To the Entire world, actual fact, to judge any country as a whole for the actions of their leaders is an ignorant way of thinking. The citizens of all countries fighting in the middle east or anywhere else for that matter, do not wish the decimation or dominion of these people in conflict. Nor do the soldiers who fight, none of the soldiers wish to be in war, the UK, Australia and the USA, none wish to be there, but that doesn't really matter does it, when the leaders of great nations decide, their will be done. I'm deeply disturbed to learn of the hatred most nations have for the USA and other participating nations within the middle east affair. "All wars are civil , because all men are brothers" but on the other hand, Death solves all problems "No man, No problem" Joesph Stalin. AU79

AU79		23-Feb-2008 06:41
To the Entire world, actual fact, to judge any country as a whole for the actions of their leaders is an ignorant way of thinking. The citizens of all countries fighting in the middle east or anywhere else for that matter, do not wish the decimation or dominion of these people in conflict. Nor do the soldiers who fight, none of the soldiers wish to be in war, the UK, Australia and the USA, none wish to be there, but that doesn't really matter does it, when the leaders of great nations decide, their will be done. I'm deeply disturbed to learn of the hatred most nations have for the USA and other participating nations within the middle east affair. "All wars are civil , because all men are brothers" but on the other hand, Death solves all problems "No man, No problem" Joesph Stalin. AU79

Guest		31-Oct-2007 13:59
To those of you who say that Chechnya is devoid of any scars - SHAME ON YOU. There is no need for old, fake Russian propaganda here. Post-war Grozny was the most destroyed city in Europe since the the bombing of Germany in WWII. Hundreds of thousands of innocent women, children and men were killed by random Russian bombings. Of course, it is easy to win a war when your enemy is on land with a gun in his hand, while you are on an "istrebitel" (fighter aircraft) dropping bombs on him and on peaceful villages. Today, in the reign of that rat Kadyrov, thousands of families have their members disappear. The West and the Russians, who are heavily brainwashed by their state-controlled Channel 1, believe that the Russian govt has won a war against terrorists and put a peaceful, pro-Russian, democratic governor (Karydov) in place. I have doubts about peaceful and democratic, but pro-Russian he definitely is. And that is the ONLY reason why he is the current governor there. Anyone who knows Chechnya knows that it was and is divided into clans (teips). Ramzan Kadyrov is simply one leader of such a clan, who was previously a rebel, who has agreed with the Russian govt to stop the Chechnian seccesionist movement in return for the Russians providing him with military and financial backing. THIS IS HOW IT IS. Ramzan is just another warlord who disgracefully used the weak political state of Chechnya to seize power for himself by forging a tie and alliance with the Russian govt and "hunting the anti-Russian forces". Also, why does no one mention the fact that FSB was involved in the Russian apartment bombings in 1999 that were blamed on Chechens, but NOT ONE Chechen was arrested in connection with those bombings. Doesn't that seem strange ? It does, and it is because it was really the FSB who carried out the bombings on their own Russians, to then blame it on Chechens to boost Russian support for the second Chechen war, and then SEAL all the material that had to do with the bombings FOR 70 YEARS, after a Russian man accidentally caught FSB agents unloading bombs into his apartment building. Men and women, please don't taken any information that you see on the news on face value. The internet is a wonderful tool that has the potential to free humans from all forms of bondage, including false national propaganda, if only they express the desire.

Guest		03-Sep-2007 20:49
To kalafan just for the record there were more countries NOT involved in any conflict during the 20th Century than you imagine, so that list is longer than you thought.. and even if there was not, that is no automatic excuse and justification for war. Chechnya war is over and should remain so. I agree with all posts about America minding their own business. You only have to look at the mess they have created in Iraq to realise Americans know very little about controlling terrorism. So long as Russia keeps their Chechnya policy clean that is the main thing. Putin is still not doing enough in protecting those people in the cities and all Russians will know exactly what I am talking about. Turning a blind eye to Nazis will always cost in the long run, so come on Vladimir, erase those dirty Nazis out once and for all before we are back to the beginning again!

Guest		28-Aug-2007 21:10
The truth is the reconstrctio in efforts in Chechnya are going smoothly and faster than will evr be dreamed on in Iraq, many areas of Grozny are devoid of any battle scars, or the least, are hardly noticeable, even parks and squares are recovered, trees are back into the picture, and heavy social investment and State reconstruction of infraestructure has been going on at breakneck speed, not so in bloodsoaked Iraq, where the death toll has just surpased 1'092'070 ciilians killed, their infraestructure in shambles, no running water, no electricty, long lines for trivial things from water, to ice, in-fighting not only between shia and sunnies, but now also between shia and shia and sunni vs. sunni, where thousands are now actually shooting it out in the streets of Baghdad and Karbala as I type this post (so far 50+ killed) and even Fallujah just returned to "the good ol' days!! Congrats to brave russian soldiers in helping protect the world from Islamic extremists and kudos in your reconstruction efforts there, Shame on the Israelies and other "Western interests" for supporting the criminal factions in Chechnya and trying to get a "Musharraf" or "Bandar" ahole to run that district as another Bush butt-boy, to then cut off Russia's territory and siphon the oil in that region, lest we forget that Osama bin Laden is a Washington creation!! or when Iran cut deals with Washington and Israel to supply death squad goons in my homeland Nicaragua during the eighties.. My hat off and a big hug to Mother Russia for helping us in our time of need and for giving us unbiased, human and warm solidarity, By the way, another huge thanks to genius Mijail Kalashnikov, his weapon is superb! My field issued AKM was a lifesaver and is main reason I'm here now able to make this post! President Vladimir Putin: Keep up the great work! Make Russia great again!! An Appreciative Internationalist.

Guest		07-Jan-2007 12:16
Holy shit, I'm talking about a conflict in the comments section of a gallery dealing with said conflict! Ain't that something! I didn't get that phrase you quoted from anywhere except my own personal observance and a basic knowledge of history. Give me a list of countries that weren't involved in any wars (this includes "Peacekeeping Operations") during the 20th Century. That was a pretty quick list, huh? Name me one century in recorded history that saw no wars ANYWHERE. Was that list even quicker? Chechnya's "war" is over, yes, but that will not stop the blubbering post-60s "intellectuals" from bitching about it for another five years. And what is this "Bush mentality" you speak of? Oh, I see! Its how the US inflicts the bulk of it's destructive tendencies outside it's borders, whereas Russia has the courtesy to keep nearly all of it inside it's own borders. None of this matters, though, as both our respective giants are still following the same basic path to self-decay at the behest of the same kinds of bosses. The Pro-Bush bigmouths criticizing Russia's Chechen Campaigns, and the Putinites downing the War On Terror, put together, have created one of the 21st Century's most laughable hypocrite squabbles thus far.

Guest		06-Nov-2006 21:47
"I know your intent is good, but you're more or less asking the Human Race to stop having sex, because like sex, war is one of our oldest and finest traditions, baby." No baby, whoever told you that was the one who never fought in any war. Chechnya war is over. So let's stop with all this bullshit and look towards the day when all is good once more. If you have a George Bush mentality then take a look at Iraq and see how far that will get you. Take all this war bullshit and throw it in the bin.

Guest		16-Aug-2006 21:30
Talk about a bunch of jerkholes ruining a perfectly good gallery. I'll bet all my money in the bank that none of the "My side rulz, your side SuX" guys have ever enlisted to fight in any army, be it state or rebel, and as for the neutral Peaceniks, I know your intent is good, but you're more or less asking the Human Race to stop having sex, because like sex, war is one of our oldest and finest traditions, baby. If you'd like a quick summary as to why this whole shindig happened in the first place, someone WHO ACTUALLY FOUGHT THERE has a pretty good explanation here: http://www.lib.ru/MEMUARY/CHECHNYA/chechen_war.txt It's a doozie of a read, though, so here's the excerpt of interest: "Yet here, people lived by penitentiary laws for four years. We fed them with money, supplied with weapons and taught how to use them. Then we sent them to fight in Osetia and Abhazia for us, - like we are not even aware of what's going on. And when there was no longer need for them, they should've been eliminated, but no, - we tried to domesticate the Chechen. Yeah, right! He turned against our Moscow gang. Why, though, should the whole country suffer? We even came here from Siberia to break up the dogs. China is closer to us than Chechnya. Then men from ZabVO, DalVO and TOF were dragged down here too. They can walk to the States or Japan. One thing isn't clear though. Why is it so that the rag-heads left the oil refinery intact? We, too, were strictly ordered not so much as touch it. Here is our Air Force, happily bombing the city's living quarters, but as for the Staropromyslovsky part - no way. "All of which means: the plant is somebody's property. Somebody who can hush our Defence Minister and tell him specifically to leave it alone, - you can level the whole town to the ground, but don't you dare ruining the refinery. Of coarse, when Russian soldier is in rage, he's very difficult to hold back, so too the rag-heads, not all are aware of the refinery's importance. They naively think that they are actually fighting for their own fucking freedom and don't get it, morons, that we are all simply taking part in an ordinary criminal quarrel, very big though. One little baron decided to screw The Big Daddy and start his own business. Then, Big Daddy sent his own hood, the Russian Army, over, to bang the little fellow. But the baron was a smart chap; he squalled with independence and sent his "bulls" in. That's how the quarrel has begun. Now, no one can remember why the whole thing started in the first place. The hoods are busy taking vengeance on each other; meanwhile, their barons are making big bucks expropriating salaries and pensions. The little one is pulling in Islamic World now, with his cheap religious mottos. God, help us and forgive!" With that out of the way, let me thank igor01 for posting all these picture here. I find the conflict rather interesting, and it's nice to have such a large archive of images all in one place. Good day.

Guest		21-May-2006 11:19
Petruusha my friend your right! But just one thing! Russia is never going to nuke Chechnya in a million years so shut your sorry ass up and smell the coffee. Putin is putting resources into making Chechnya better now and we all know that this war was made all the worse by Russian snitches helping the Chechens as it was Chechens helping the Russians etc. This war was bloody and ultimately pointless. Let's look towards the day when all the suffering is over and everybody is happy. All other people with other ideas should just shut the fuck up because peace is the only way forward.

Guest		21-May-2006 11:15
Petruusha my friend your right! But just one thing! Russia is never going to nuke Chechnya in a million years so shut your sorry ass up and smell the coffee. Putin is putting resources into making Chechnya better now and we all know that this war was made all the worse by Russian snitches helping the Chechens as it was Chechens helping the Russians etc. This war was bloody and ultimately pointless. Let's look towards the day when all the suffering is over and everybody is happy. All other people with other ideas should just shut the fuck up because peace is the only way forward.

Guest		14-Apr-2006 00:25
Ramzan my friend your right! But just one thing! Before that day comes. The chechen "landfield" will be blown off by a tactical Russian nuke.

Guest		09-Apr-2006 16:42
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Guest		24-Nov-2005 20:31
One day this war in Chechnya will be over and all the suffering for the poor, innocent people of Chechnya and Groznyy, and the poor, young Russian troops who have little choice but to fight will be well and truly over. That day will be a blessed day indeed, as Chechens and Russians will live side by side in harmony and the world can put another of history's most terrible battles behind her. That time will come, one day you'll see, when we can all be friends..

Guest		28-Oct-2005 16:31
Vladimir, it's me. Send me a message.

Guest		07-Oct-2005 05:23
Hope you choke on it.

Guest		07-Oct-2005 05:19
Hope you choke on it.

Guest		07-Oct-2005 04:03
Fuck all of you. Im gonna go get a big mac and a diet coke.

Guest		05-Oct-2005 18:40
I am British and on behalf of all Britons I want to say something to all the idiotic American and Israeli posters who think that they are justified in the wanton killing of people and their 'send in the army' approach.. Go fight your own battles and then go fuck yourselves. Sorry for the language, but I am fed up with this war and listening to American/Israeli excuses for putting British lives at risk. Fuck this war, and fuck all wars.. they only encourage killing. Get rid of Israel and lets be over and done with all this mess.

Guest		04-Oct-2005 04:08
fucking jews and americans fund and support the radical muslims against Russians and then have the nerve to turn around and say 'but we always thought you were the better..' two-faced and no-friends is all i can say to you, loser.. now fuck off.

TO USA		04-Oct-2005 04:05
BETTER TAKE YOUR PROPAGANDA AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE! USA IS LOSING WAR IN IRAQ AND AMERICANS, JUST LIKE YOUR SORRY ASS, ONLY HAVE MEANINGLESS WORDS TO COVER THERE INADEQUACY. AT LEAST VIETNAM WAS MANY YEARS AGO.. LOOK TODAY MORE TECHNOLOGY, POWER, WEAPONRY.. YET USA... STILL FUCKED. WELL DONE TO RUSSIA FOR SIDING AGAINST ISRAEL!! WELL DONE TO RUSSIA FOR SIDING AGAINST ISRAEL!!

Nimrod		03-Oct-2005 21:06
USA you are nothing but a Jewish-American propagandist so get your ass out of this forum. Jews in Russia face the same persecution as Chechens so stop flaming the fire.. You want war with Muslims for an entirely different and seperate agenda(your own) so stop pretending you are part of the same cause. It's over. You have handed your lands back so it is time to shut the fuck up and accept you have no friends anymore and make the best of it. Even the Americans are no longer willing to stick up for you. Watch your words these days because Israel can very easily be wiped off the map, and most countries these days couldn't really care less if that happened.

USA		01-Oct-2005 10:48
Interesting point about the Mongols, Vladimir�my grandfather emigrated from the Volga region when he was 5�his city, Morgenthau, was razed by the Bolsheviks after they generally collected all the weapons, shot the men, and stacked them in carts. Anyone who �says Russia sucks� regarding Afghanistan is a moron�We Americans sent these mujahadeen how many billions in the latest technology arms, and they still were slaughtered like pigs�.Much like our experience with the Vietnamese---by military standards we absolutely �cleaned their clock�. When I see these young Russian soldiers fighting these monkeys in chechnya, I think of our young heroes, and just hope to G-d that they can slaughter these wahabist boy rapists everywhere in the world, from Iraq to Chechnya, like locusts flying into a cloud of DDT. I do think that we underestimated the Satanic/Satan worshipping nature of these Iraqis (sunnis and Shiites)---we do not truly know the extent of their depravity as a people and a society. The Kurds have worked out well, but the rest of them should be humanely euthanized at about 20,000 degrees Centigrade. I am worried about Putin, sometimes�it is hard to trust this KGB man, and why in G-d�s name is he selling a reactor to iran??? I understand the business relationship, but we have to �see the forest for the trees� and remember exactly who we�re dealing with�radical backstabbing islamists. Vladimir, I agree that Russians are far �tougher� than Americans in general, but everything �goes with the territory�. I disagree about our motives: we are fighting for energy, which is as important as bread�.wars have been fought for salt, so you can not fault us. We are fighting an ideology far worse than any Communism. At least Communism was functional, produced high technology, scientific knowledge, went into space, etc�.Islamism is only about plunder and barbarity. Like chasing down little girls in their own bedrooms and murdering them, killing an entire bus of children with knives (Israel) or what happened in Beslan. About facing �barbarians or the civilized rich soldiers��that depends who you are, but I would rather face the barbarians because they can be dealt with technology, whereas you go against the civilized rich soldiers, your chance of survival is about nil. Another thing: I can not understand the Russian proclivity for anti-Semitism�possibly due to the Cold War and Russia�s siding with islamic regimes. These relationships have tainted some Russian minds, in regards to Israel. It�s a pity, because the Jews have been fighting these islamist huns longer, harder and more valiantly than all of us put together. Americans and especially Russians have lost so much in the last century, fighting each other over corrupt ideologies such as Communism, Marxism, and siding with unsavory islamic arab regimes (US and Iraq against Iran, Russia with Syria/Iran against Israel and the West)�We need to make up for it in this century, and I�ll say that Russia has much more to gain than America.

10		01-Oct-2005 08:13
идите .. идут к черту российский империализм ..!!

9		30-Sep-2005 23:42
Blyat...vspomnish pro gavno, vot i ono :)

bloody soilder		30-Sep-2005 22:14
listten up all of you dumbasses quit fighting like babys ok vlad back me up here

9		30-Sep-2005 17:45
First of all Nazism and Comunis are siamese brothers, they descent from the same coletivist ideia. The worl dont blame the Germans today because they ve renegade the nazism and no longer suport this crap. Otherwise Russians (not all of them) still stand for Comunism, like Putin a former KGB agent that rules the country with questionable acts. Meanwhile the comunism is growing in South America were im come from (I know you will call me black, but im not. you racist!) China and Russia still doing agressive politics agains its neighbours and has a giant network of international propaganda pro-comunism (that deny to the world to see the sufering of chechens and give hours of criticism about Iraq). So "99" shut your fuck big mouth and stop pretending that comunism is dead because it isnt. Comunists go to hell!

Gainsborough		29-Sep-2005 23:01
Communist USSR needed a mother Russia, Communism was only 14 years ago, and Nazi Germany no longer exists.

99		29-Sep-2005 21:12
"99 should shut the fuck up and stop pretending that communism never happened" Communism did happen and I never said it didn't. Communism was a wrong thing to go by and I admit that as well al most Russians. Occupying Poland and the baltics was a mustake too but it's all in the past. Communist USSR occupied them, not Putin and not Russia so they should all shut their bitch asses up. Nazzi Geramny almost took over all euroasian continent, killed tens of millions..why aren't today's Germans being blamed for that ??? That's exactly why all Russians despise those lithuanians/latvians and polaki-golosraki pricks who harvest chechen terrorists ...

Cougar		29-Sep-2005 20:23
Russia has never exclusively been Christian Orthodox. It has also been primarily Jewish AND Islamic. In fact, Russia as a nation has been part of these religions for LONGER historically than it has from Orthodox so 99 should shut the fuck up and stop pretending that communism never happened. What Russia doesnt owe to the Caucasus she owes to Poland or the baltics.

99		29-Sep-2005 04:53
"Im not a muslim, Im catholic " You're either Polish then or from the baltics since you got so much crap to spill about Russians. If you are, that explains it all..i'll save my breath since you imbesols aren't worth my time. Russians are christian orthodox and always were during the tsars and still are. But you're right, communists didn't permit religion

9		29-Sep-2005 01:06
Im not a muslim, Im catholic. I know all comunists like you are atheists and dont belive in god. So go to hell all comunists and russian imperialism.

Guest		28-Sep-2005 22:21
Tell me if you're a muslim. Then I'll consider as how to respond to your comment "Get out of the land that isnt yours!!!" Dont bullshit that Russian murdering chechen children was ever video taped or done deliberately. WAR IS WAR and casualties, even though unwanted are inevitable. But when your fellow terrorists were gunning down running children with a purpouse to slaughter them, that's not war-that's terrorism. Chechens are big time cowards who can only hide behind little kids, calling themselves freedom fighters. That's an arab technique that's common among you all. Nord Ost couldn't have been done better on the ALPHA team's behalf. It was the asshole medics that couldn't get the evac going.

9		28-Sep-2005 19:03
BABYKILLER??? and what about the babies killed by russia soldiers? there are hundreds!!! many of them documented on video. and the mass graves? In Beslan the russian troops managed the situation using the soviet method (heavy firepower) the same way they did in the theatre, ending the case before anyone had the chance to talk to the midia. Stalin wouldnt do better. I dont think that is right to do terrorism but the russian terrorism is bigger then chechen. Get out of the land that isnt yours!!!

Guest1		28-Sep-2005 18:40
Glauben Sie Gast nicht.. der Mensch ist propadandize. . Ne pas croire l'invit�.. l'humain est propadandize. �No crea a hu�sped.. el humano es propadandize. . Tro ikke gjest.. mennesket er propadandize. не полагайте, что гость .. человек - propadandize ..!!

Guest		28-Sep-2005 18:29
Вы заставляете меня чувствовать себя настолько забавным.. Sie machen mich f�hle so lustig.. usted me hace me siento tan chistoso.. e f�r meg til meg slik morsom.. vous me faites me sentir si dr�le.. U maak mij voel zo grappig.. faz me sentir-se t�o engra�ado..

Guest		28-Sep-2005 06:48
guest, you're the disgrace for the muslim race ...

Guest		28-Sep-2005 06:41
"We are with u" BABYKILLER !!!!

Guest		28-Sep-2005 06:41
"The Russians killers have no respect for human life" Do you read the news at all????? Slaughter of Beslan children done as murderers shouted �God is Great�, says theologian http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=1501

Guest		28-Sep-2005 02:20
Stop the massacre the Chechens have the right of freedom everybody says something about Iraq on TV news and nothing about Chechnya The Russians killers have no respect for human life and people still talk about Abu Graib The chechens heros are teaching a lesson to these comunists We are with u

Mercury		27-Sep-2005 21:06
OK children its time to stop talking nonsense here. Innocent people should never be killed, and neither Russians nor Chechens should be excused when they do it. The English have no time for Russia's cowboy tactics within the Chechnya, and that is why such documentaries are shown. The only message the world should be sending is to stop the killing of innocent. For when the world stops saying and believing in that, then we may as well all be savages. PEACE IN THE CAUCASUS.

Guest		27-Sep-2005 10:49
ya ya..sorri my english is so bad.. i dnt like english.. you say we are terrorist..haha so funny.! guest..we want life..give me a freedom.. stop to killing muslim.. ya i know.one day.my time will come..n you too..

Guest		27-Sep-2005 06:24
Hey guest go fuck your mommy, you chechen imbesol..stick to searching for your 72 virgins you sand monkey! Learn some english before coming here and barking at me. I DON'T hate all chechens, those who want peace I got nothing but respect for. But those like you are the ones we rap in pig skin and bury in pig shit...just wait asswhipe..your time will come...go to hell you terrorist scum !

Guest		27-Sep-2005 04:31
guest..u wnt to kill all cheche..haha.nothing lose out to our chechen.. did u can do that..?? u r so weak bastard..!! one cheche be able VS 10 russ..just with an IMAN..

Guest		27-Sep-2005 04:11
hahaha guest..one day..jesus can't help u.. instead..hemself will be send u go to hell.. go to hell murderer..!!

Cougar		26-Sep-2005 22:51
When you consider how large Russia was I would say that says more about Russia than anywhere else. Mongols took over the Volga for many years, and had the area as one of their most important bases. The people who took back the Volga after many years were the Caucasians, because they were the original Cossacks of the time. Since then you will find that Mongols only respect those from the Caspian, and it was them who they vowed never to fight again. However, if any one thing should take credit for the demise of the strictly Mongol empire then it would be the Islamic faith, although it was more of an welcome integration than a takeover. That was when Mongols started believing Allah was greater than them, and so gradually became more humble, losing the will to maintain territory. Russia owes everything to the Caucasus.

Cougar		26-Sep-2005 22:50
When you consider how large Russia was I would say that says more about Russia than anywhere else. Mongols took over the Volga for many years, and had the area as one of their most important bases. The people who took back the Volga after many years were the Caucasians, because they were the original Cossacks of the time. Since then you will find that Mongols only respect those from the Caspian, and it was them who they vowed never to fight again. However, if any one thing should take credit for the demise of the strictly Mongol empire then it would be the Islamic faith, although it was more of an welcome integration than a takeover. That was when Mongols started believing Allah was greater than them, and so gradually became more humble, losing the will to maintain territory. Russia owes everything to the Caucasus.

Vladimir		26-Sep-2005 18:18
this is for the person who signed out as a geust saying early Russia was controlled by the mongols which is true, the mongolian empire of ghengis khan was the largest empire in all of history and owned many more countries rather just Russia so it doesnt say much about all countries under the control of the mongols, MUST i add that the Russians stationed on the Volga river (later to become Cossacks) were the first people to ever to defeat the mongolians and drove them out 1 by 1 back to mongolia, if you look at the 21st century map it clearly shows centuries we pushed the mongols farther inland than china and since kazakstahn was given to the Russian Cossacks as territory for the victory over them that land doesnt count

Vladimir		26-Sep-2005 17:53
this is for the person who signed out as a geust saying early Russia was controlled by the mongols which is true, the mongolian empire of ghengis khan was the largest empire in all of history and owned many more countries rather just Russia so it doesnt say much about all countries under the control of the mongols, MUST i add that the Russians stationed on the Volga river (later to become Cossacks) were the first people to ever to defeat the mongolians and drove them out 1 by 1 back to mongolia, if you look at the 21st century map it clearly shows centuries we pushed the mongols farther inland than china and since kazakstahn was given to the Russian Cossacks as territory for the victory over them that land doesnt count

Vladimir		26-Sep-2005 17:53
this is for the person who signed out as a geust saying early Russia was controlled by the mongols which is true, the mongolian empire of ghengis khan was the largest empire in all of history and owned many more countries rather just Russia so it doesnt say much about all countries under the control of the mongols, MUST i add that the Russians stationed on the Volga river (later to become Cossacks) were the first people to ever to defeat the mongolians and drove them out 1 by 1 back to mongolia, if you look at the 21st century map it clearly shows centuries we pushed the mongols farther inland than china and since kazakstahn was given to the Russian Cossacks as territory for the victory over them that land doesnt count

Cougar		26-Sep-2005 04:03
Josesph Stalin? http://www.ericlee.me.uk/stalin.htm Don't know about you but he looks pretty Caucasian to me. And he's from Georgia.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin as is his family so that can make sense. Go do some google searching yourself, get some education.. maybe then you won't find it so difficult to continue reading.

Guest		26-Sep-2005 00:33
Russians retreated for same reason the Americans did in Vietnam, realizing that the invasion was a mistake. They'd have no problem staying there and keeping the job going. But obviously when you back out everyone says you lost, especially in islamic world..they always claim victory. That's exactly why Americans can not leave Iraq right now, Bush got himself in deep shit and he'll have climb hard. If they do leave Iraq, all the jihadi scum, including chechens and alquaida will think they can take on the world. I never supported the invasion but now that they're in..I hope they finish the job ! O'Toole, yes they did support the nazzis when the country was in bloodbath and we're not talking about POLAKI-GOLOSRAKI here..this is a different issue and got no relation to chechnya. " The man who accused them of possible collaboration was a Caucasian" OK, I stopped reading after that. I understand you mean Stalin ??? Go google search and do some reading on who Stalin actually was...

O'Toole		25-Sep-2005 22:10
Iraq was a mistake, but if Russia was so successful in Afghanistan then why retreat, leaving millions of dollars behind? The only reason Afghans lost so many lives was due to the carpet bombing of populated cities. Otherwise they outsmarted the Russian forces at each and every turn. Chechens never backed Nazis. Hitler believed that the people from the Caucasus mountains were more Aryan than the Russians were, and so it was considered that they would do if the Germans reached that area but it never happened. The man who accused them of possible collaboration was a Caucasian, so Russian snitches should shut the fuck up about Nazi business, they collaborated with them themselves over Poland remember..?

Guest		25-Sep-2005 20:18
Vedeno, you can not compare Iraq and Chechnya and how the countries go fighting about it. Iraq WAS a mistake, another one of Bush's techniques left from the Reagan's cold war to maintain order and belief among his people, "fighting the axis (ex Sov. Union)" or today is known as "libiration of suffering nation in the name of freedom". Chechnya IS a doestic issue and many of you dont seem to understand it. If chechnya is let go then all Russian terretories will claim independence. Second, chachnya was always Russia's biggest problem in the caucasus, going back to WW2 where chechens were backing nazzis. Success of Russia in chechnya would in no way yelld if Americans were to fight there. Many of you keep comparing Soviet Afghanistan to American and how the soviets lost. 15000 Russians to over 1000000 jihads killed, given that practically all the western world supported them, both with hardware and money. Russians were kicking their ass on their own ...do tha math.

Godspeed		25-Sep-2005 18:57
Good words Vedeno. Polls show that the majority of Americans think that the war in Iraq was wrong, bringing them in line with all other nations over the world. Russia no longer has the Islamic terrorist argument for what is essentially a breakdown of diplomatic relations. Now the world has all rallied behind the Chechens it has become clear that Russia needs to seriously rethink their policy, and do it fast.

Vedeno		25-Sep-2005 18:02
if an army like russian army cannot control a territory, even a small country like Chechnya and destroy commit massacres, genocie like in that horrible war against Chechens that means the war is lost, the Chechen war is the result of the end of soviet order, russian people ignore the reality of that genocide and their own government controlled by former-KGBists ... USA are really the most powerfull nation now but the commit the same mistakes in Irak, but it doesn't mean thatin the future they won't change their policy, hopefully they have enough intelligent politicians and PR specialist, unfortunately Russia do not build but only destroy that's the diffenrence between toda'ys Russia and the USA ... A last remark: all disgusting remarks/post written by all kind of extremists here show that human being is not ready to accept evolution and reality It's a big shame for the Russians because they do not realize that this horrible and disgusting war, that genocide concerns them directly and that will be a real nightmare for next generations ...

Guest		25-Sep-2005 05:53
God bless our soldiers for cleaning our land from islamic parasites !

Guest		25-Sep-2005 02:12
120,000 russian VS 6000 chechen.. so shame..embarrassed..!!

Guest		25-Sep-2005 02:01
vladimir.. why dont you say russian r lost by chechen.. people with the small land..n they hv a IMAN..!!

Guest		25-Sep-2005 00:53
Sorry to break it to you Vlamimir, but Russia LOST to the Mongols. In fact the greatest majority of their empire was in the heart of Russia. Even after the Mongols, other tribes including Khazars from the Caucasus ruled all of Russia complete so think again on what you know. American troops were always getting fucked in classified missions because they are so dumb. Now they can add the Iraq war to their long list of failed battles.

English Raffles		24-Sep-2005 18:51
TO USA SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU AMERICAN PIECE OF SHIT!!! NOBODY CARES FOR YOUR OPINION YOU BOUGHT TERRORISM TO BRITAIN WITH YOUR 'ALL IN IT TOGETHER' ATTITUDE. GO AND FIGHT YOUR OWN BATTLES - YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN FROM HERE.. WHY DONT WE ALL STOP AMERICA REGARDLESS OF COST IN EUROS OR HUMAN COLLATERAL DAMAGE?? THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE HOW FUCKING AMERICANS LIKE THE SHOE ON THE OTHER FOOT. FUCK YOU AMERICA.. I HOPE YOU GET FUCKED AGAIN REAL SOON!!!

Vladimir		24-Sep-2005 18:17
for all those americans who say Russia sucks because we lost in aphganistan , what other war in our 1000 year history have we lost, america lost to russia many times, shores of cuba, forests of vietnam, north korea, and so many classified missions the americans got their asses handed to'em around the world, its sad to see the great forces in all of history that conquered all of europe (Ghengis Khan, Napolean, Hitler) in weeks lost in hours to just 1 country...Russia, ultimately Russia is greater than all european countries combined since the force that over took them was defeated and no country in the world can match that. More than half of Russia still consists of most villages that require basic survival skills, that is why it is easier to kill and torture enemies because their is no consistant supply of food, like that of our ancestors fighting to every death to conquer ports for food and supplies, the same concept can be done with the Russians of today, fighting for survival. Its so easy for American soldiers to make rules in warfare...because they grewup with food on their plates civilized all their life. Who would you fear more if you were opposing either country, the barbarians or the civilized rich soldiers? American soldiers are like Roman soldiers, fighting for money and nothing more, the Roman empire is just like America, most romans looked at themselves as the country they emmigrated from, just as Americans today waving their irish/italian flags

USA		24-Sep-2005 10:13
You guys all need another ten years worth of maturity and loss of testosterone...While my country, the USA, is the greatest on Earth, all things considered, I will not speak ill of our fellow Christian shooters. I pray for the souls of the Russian soldiers keeping the islamic monsters at bay. I pray for the English and our European allies. Let's face it, we are all facing the same enemy: radical islam. period. We can talk smack about each other all day long, but what a waste, when we should collaboratively focus on this enemy. I've been to Moscow, and it is a beautiful city with family-oriented wonderful people. A person just sees one of these Chechen slaughter videos of defenseless, disarmed GI's, and there is no doubt about the true nature of this monstrous hoard of an enemy that makes the Mongols look like Sesame Street...and what must be done with them, regardless of the cost in dollars or collateral human life. We are all in this together, and we need to start focusing...more action and less talk.

Guest		24-Sep-2005 09:53
In this war, due to the so-called "free world" anxious with the world export of democracy, Russia has finally lost fear before mass liquidation of Chechens and its own people. Every day in the Chechen Republic the criminal Russian regime kills and cripples hundreds of people. Thousands of Chechens are tortured and killed in prisons and concentration camps in all territory of Russia . The purpose of this policy is clear and Putin does not hide it. �At any cost� � this is a citation from Putin, taking into account this difference in amount of the population and sizes of the territories "to win", that is, to destroy people of the Chechen Republic . Simply to grind it in millstones of the war for the time, which will be given to them by the silent world accomplices.

Guest		24-Sep-2005 09:45
What Russian soldiery does in the Chechen Republic is not only a crime, but also the greatest insult for each person. It is impossible not to feel a painful shame everyday for that nothing is done for the people, who before the eyes of the whole world are methodically exterminated by the gone mad Putin's gang. For the people, who are a legal member of the community of nations, to whom the God gives the same rights, as to other peoples.

Chris		24-Sep-2005 03:20
TIME FOR AMERICANS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP IN HERE WE HAVE SEEN YOUR VERSION OF DEMOCRACY - MOVE ON STUPID PROPLE!!!

Hogan		24-Sep-2005 03:18
I KILL ON MUSLIM KILLER!!! FUCK YOU AMERICAN YOU LOSE EVERYTIME JUST LIKE YOU ARE ABOUT TO BE GONE WITH THE WIND!!

Max		22-Sep-2005 22:36
That documentary was true. Many acts of terrorism committed by Russian forces. They need to clean there act up before Europe goes over to start kicking some ass.

qwer		21-Sep-2005 21:15
Has anybody seen a documentary "Chechnya - the dirty war"? What do you think about it? It looks like there is a genocide as in the best years or nazi german regime. Or is it just biased against Russians?

Guest		21-Sep-2005 17:27
kill all russian terorist..!! gud for american and british..

Guest		21-Sep-2005 17:20
haha..ur so stupid..fkin..idiot..bodoh..celaka..go to hell..bastard..!! operatsinye dus ruskie yo favrozkh un cecen guzyakh nos zhak.. no thaks..no horeey..no yahoo..evrything not gud to russ.. go to hell murderer.!!

Watcher		21-Sep-2005 15:43
Thank you for this photo gallery. Everyone is talking only about Iraq and no one says a word about the terror for terror policy of Russia in Chechnya. The world should know! Thank you again.

Guest		20-Sep-2005 03:39
Do you British idiots realise that if it were not for the Russians half of you wouldn't exist, and you'd be speaking German!? Russia saved the WORLDS ass in World war 2. Russia deserves the most respect out of every god damn country. America started the cold war because it felt inferior to Russia, and was threatend by it. So America made nuclear weapons to hide behind like the pussies they are. Therefore Russia retaliated. All of this bullshit was sarted by America and Britain, and all because you fuckers couldn't say "Thank you for saving EVERYONE Russia." Piss on your graves. The world owes Russia nothing but gratitude.

Guest		18-Sep-2005 06:56
un strojhk!! ambros du ustimov la cosa farmozh un british..un ameriki..un russi..gunya stropper miltriyev mostov!! Li ingria favrozor ki iprsi un...

Cris Tean		16-Sep-2005 01:26
Please, anybody who saw how the Americans behaved after that flood will understand that Americans certainly don't practice what they preach. Americans should quieten down. If liberating powers have to do such that they have to invade a country and kill in order to achieve their message, then it couldn't have been that good in the first place. Somebody should have given them this one instead: STOP WAR IT DESTROYS LIVES.

Denton		14-Sep-2005 17:09
everybody in england knows american men never get laid over here. in fact, english women hate american men as much as the guys do. england is the mother of america, they speak our language and so they should all shut the fuck up.

Jack L.		13-Sep-2005 22:05
USA could kick Russias ass, and we will, very soon..

muslimkiller		13-Sep-2005 21:31
This Branning duechbag is pissed-off because the only guys getting laid in England are Americans. At this time of day he's probably comming down from his tea fix. Go brush your teeth.

muslimkiller		13-Sep-2005 21:29
This Branning duechbag is pissed-off because the only guys getting laid in England are Americans. At this time of day he's probably comming down from his tea fix. Go brush your teeth.

bloody soilder		13-Sep-2005 20:38
Shut the fucck up both of you

HOOAH....!		13-Sep-2005 16:24
Lets see if I remember correctly you COCK SUCKING LIMEYS did invade AMERICA and got your asses kicked out both times....! LIKE I SAID THE FIRST TIME, ANYTIME ANYWHERE. Piss on you and your Fucking QUEEN AND KING AND THE REST OF YOUR FUCKED UP ROYAL FAMILY......! I guess you are just too FUCKING stupid to learn. Oh and what about AFRICA and IRELAND. So shut the fuck up. You boys (BOYS IS THE RIGHT WORD) When you boys grow up and you might stop having these fantisy of greatness....! GOD BLESS THE USA, RUSSIA, IRELAND AND THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD. NO NEED TO BLESS THE LIMEYS THEY ALREADY THINK IN THEIR OWN SMALL MINDS THEY ARE THE BEST (WHAT A FUCKING JOKE THAT IS.....!)

Branning		13-Sep-2005 13:47
FUCK AMERICA!! I HOPE OUR BRITISH BOYS INVADE AMERICA AND KILL EVERY ONE OF YOU AMERICAN FILTHY PIECES OF SHIT!!

HOOAH....!		13-Sep-2005 01:16
Suck Dick...! you Limey Bastards. You would be answering to Hitler if it was not for the US Army. We are still the best and would kick your asses in a heart beat anytime anywhere.

CSM Jenkins		12-Sep-2005 23:09
The American army is corrupt, and have lost all respect in the world as a formidable fighting force. The British army, however, have consistently shown their competancy in Iraq. In the south region of Basra, the Iraqis actually welcomed British troops with open arms and even the terrorists have said that under the circumstances, the British have acted with great respect. The Americans continue to use illegal tactics which bring shame on us all, and they are also the ones who are responsible for putting British lives at risk in this over-publisized and immoral war. They should be brought to account and made to pay for their crimes. The world should come together and make sure America is never allowed to instigate another conflict ever again.

british soldier		11-Sep-2005 14:38
russian army is shit they got there ass kicked in afghanistan(the mujahaden were trained by the sas) and they getting the shit beat out of them now.there army is poorly equipped full of little boys who couldnt fight a fly.the british army is recognised around the world as the best.if we were bigger we would kick the fuck out of russia.....ps i hate the american army to it is full of gun-ho teenage wankers who piss themselves under fire

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Reeny		29-Aug-2005 01:05
Существует легенда: когда Бог делил землю между народами, горцы устроили пир в его честь и поэтому опоздали к началу. Тогда Бог дал им землю, которую оставил себе, - Кавказ.

Osny		28-Aug-2005 14:53
То, что Вы делаете от этого = ваш выбор, OMOH

Reeny		25-Aug-2005 22:37
2Vladimir, Sometimes war is inevitable, but it is always after the worst wars when people look back and see just how easy it was to be avoided. I hope you see the significance. The majority of the Chechen people never wanted a Roman Empire, just their own lands back. Regarding 300 years.. the same could be said of Russia; both sides have had more than their share of reasons to stop fighting. Perhaps the Chechens are plunging themselves into annihilation, but when you have lost absolutely everything, its always going to feel like you're already there anyway.

Osny		25-Aug-2005 21:46
Yes.

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Vladimir		24-Aug-2005 22:37
Nice follow-ups to what I wrote. War is inevitable....no matter how much peace there will be in the world there will always be some 3rd or 4th world country looking to rise up out of the ashes and conquer everything and all, trying to be something of that like the Roman Empire era, and today in the beginning of the 21st century it seems one of those countries is chechnya, all I have to say is if you've been fighting for 3 centuries straight against the largest country in the world and your country is still the same size as when the war originally started over 300 years ago JUST GIVE UP, the chechens are only plunging themselves into annihilation, with the Russian military standing at a force with over 2.5 million in the Government Issued class and just over 4.5 million Registerred Russian Cossacks its clear chechnya does not stand a chance.

Osny		24-Aug-2005 22:15
Not necessarily.. The only thing the Chechnya war proves absolute is the results of human pain and a lack of understanding; nothing else. These things are much easier to repair than you might think. By conceeding a bleak future all one does is merely create a self-fulfilling prophecy.. Throughout history old enemies have become best friends. Indeed this notion has become essential to the survival of human civilization. One day the Chechens and the Russians will come to some sort of agreement that will be favourable to all, and soon the war will become but a memory. When all is said and done, no human-being wants to experience pain, and it is that to which they are fighting for. You can label it holy war, or a war on terror; everybody's in it for their own different reasons, and it all comes down to the fact we have bullshit leaders who should know a lot better.

bloody soilder		24-Aug-2005 20:41
but sadly there will never be peace in our life time for there will always be rebels how cause problems

Osny		24-Aug-2005 16:44
It is commendable of you to finally change tact, Bloody Soilder, and perhaps it is time we made friends.. So, Peace to you; Peace to Muslims; Peace to Christians; Peace to Russia; Peace to Chechnya; Peace to the Caucasus; Peace to Serbia; Peace to Bosnia; and Peace to everybody who ever felt the wrongings of a futile conflict. Over and out.

Tuscot		24-Aug-2005 16:18
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Saladin.htm

Reeny		24-Aug-2005 15:42
We will never forget our blood, amongst the mightiest this world has ever known, and ever will know. Truly we are the warriors amongst warriors and men amongst men. The rest of the world has to live this way. The Great Wars of last century brought so much suffering and so many tears that there was little choice but for the West to adopt a 9-5 mentality. For they are not warriors. It is in their nature to be loving peoples, which is why when non-warriors go to war; it causes them the greatest amount of upset and personal discomfort. Take a look at the nature of western Europe. The only time Western Europe ever conquered anything was during colonization, using guns and self-operated machinery to defeat weak and primitive peoples throughout the world, like those in Africa, Pacifics and the Americas. Even this exploitation bites back to this very day. It is this very nature that meant that upon entering Russia, the Caucasus and the Middle East.. Western Europeans always knew their place. Getting defeated time and again, meant that they could only bestow respect and show fear of the highest magnitude. Hence we hear the legendary stories of the Cossacks defeating all, and stories of Aladin, who was responsible for more Western deaths than any other single figure in history, bar Hitler, being revered as a figure of respect, and is now remembered by children in a fairytale as an all-round nice guy, and Western hero. Even the great Winston Churchill knew, after the Kurdish Ottomans refused to surrender to British forces, he was famously quoted as saying: "I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against these uncivilized tribes, who know not of defeat and only know how to inflict pain." And look to see now how the Kurds are favoured above all. Your context of the Holy Book is incorrect, however.. Christ Himself told us of the teachings of the old scriptures being outdated for the new era that He was promising after His death and Ressurection. Christ tells us on the Sermon on the Mount: "But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also". Matthew 5:39-40 Christ himself went through unimaginable pain when He was crucified, shaking the belief to the core of all those who thought pain was greater than human life and the Son of Man. In the day of reckoning, Judgment Day, is when right will be seperated from wrong. That is the day when Christ, and our Father the Almighty will come down from the Heavens to pass judgment, taking on the role that we today like so much to incorporate as our own. Christ knew the way, and he knew that retribution, no matter what shape or form it may come, is never the solution. These are the true teachings of Christ.

bloody soilder		23-Aug-2005 16:03
@Osny i just don't want to have enemies

Vladimir		23-Aug-2005 00:13
russians and chechens do not carry out these hitious acts of humans slaughtering humans from pure joy, they do so only because of their lost loved ones over the centuries from the time of the first battles between these 2 argueing over who claimed the land first, when our grandfathers had nothing to lose and nothing to live for centuries ago they fought like barbarians (which they literally are), and knowing your grandfathers could carry out these acts only then can one do so in a modern era as the rest of the world lives on like hermit crabs thinking everything must be peaceful and work 9-5 jobs, russians, serbians, chechens fight like their grandfathers did. And for the person who wrote of the Russians not believing in christ because of the acts they carry out on the chechens, look at it this way, Christ himself speaks of forming an army against satan on earth the day of the apocolypse, the war of all wars will end human suffering and choose who will be in heaven and in hell, and as it states in the bible ""For everything there is a season, And a time for every matter under heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; A time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; A time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; A time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to throw away stones, And a time to gather stones together; A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing; A time to seek, and a time to lose; A time to keep, and a time to throw away; A time to tear, and a time to sew; A time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate, A time for war, and a time for peace. - Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8""

Osny		22-Aug-2005 17:30
2Georgian, Do not talk with this Bloody Soilder. He has bought nothing to this site and wants to be friends. His loyalties and intentions are unknown. Let him either show himself through his words or simply ignore him. Who does this imbecile want to befriend anyway?

Georgian		22-Aug-2005 17:13
What made you change your mind, OMOH?

bloody soilder		22-Aug-2005 14:32
lets be friends now

Freddie		21-Aug-2005 15:12
That time will come, one day you'll see, when we can all be friends..

Reeny		20-Aug-2005 10:00
Children, children, a little bit of decorum, please.. I ventured back onto this site to see whether or not people had calmed themselves down after lowlife americans came on here trying to stir up the situation.. Chechen peoples who war dont do so because they like it; but because they have lost their families, their loved ones.. just as most of the Russian soldiers who carry out their atrocities do so due to the loss they themselves have suffered. Is this so difficult to understand?? Peace to all Chechens, and peace to all Russians.. For everything can only begin with a simple hope.

bloody soilder		19-Aug-2005 17:47
i didn't know html dosen't work and i'm not an american

Raoul		19-Aug-2005 15:07
Excellent comment, exactly what I would have said.

Trent		19-Aug-2005 15:04
Bloody Soilder, You post links that don't even work; you spell your name wrong and pretend that was what you intended.. Give me one reason why you should be here? Other than you are american and love to read how you are getting shredded in iraq?

bloody soilder		18-Aug-2005 19:51
bite me

AJ		17-Aug-2005 03:10
Blooody Soilder, Fuck off and take your bogus link away. You are not wanted here.

bloody soilder		16-Aug-2005 16:54
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cLOistersL		14-Aug-2005 18:01
Very good, Vladimir, you show a level of understanding of the situation.. Now, the Cossacks originally emerged from the southern parts of the Caucasus. They moved into Russia and kept themselves to themselves, leading their lives with a strong work-ethic and an ability to withstand anything the world could throw at them. The original physical requirement of a Cossack was that you had to be a Caucasian, and there was no deviation from this. Although later Poles, Turks, and other Russians were all accepted(and moreover wanted the Cossacks as part of their own), it is very important to realize that the Cossacks, were for the most part, probably more akin to the kind of lifestyle and communal mentality of the Caucasians of today. You mention the Cossack's influence in the 19th and 20th Centuries, which naturally was very profound; but it is also important to realize that the Cossacks were around from long before then, and have always been the best. But let's not get carried away here, not everyone could become a Cossack; they still always maintained a certain sense of indentity. If you were Christian, and met the requirements, but didn't look 'Caucasian' enough, you would not be accepted, and this was shown by the number of nationals from other nations who were flat out refused entry. Ironic that most of the things we think of as being Russian, ie the famous dance, the attire, and the ability to almost unlimitingly drink alchohol, were all originally brought to the world by the Cossacks!! Cossacks will have their time, once more, though. And I believe that a revival of sorts will help bring the people of southern Russia together with the rest of European Russia again.

Vladimir		10-Aug-2005 23:46
I cannot argue with you there about the Russian Cossacks giving the motherland the respect it has today, though I added the qoute Napolean made of them, Hitler would've also if he had known stalin used them in Stalingrad. When he was desperate to defend his city he called for the Cossacks scattered across Siberia and signed a contract with them saying he'll give them back their land and military service if they won the city....obviously the first city to ever defeat the nazis was stalingrad and its obvious the poorly eqiuped and demoralzied Soviet troops didnt win it alone, some people do know stalin called for reinforcements from the far east of Russia but they dont clarify who in many cases, if you search deep within soviet military files you'll see that they clarified themselves as Russian Cossacks most of which leftover from the revolution, but since the communists despised cossacks they took the credit and stalin refused to give them land nor military service like he promised. It is clear the only persons that should take the credit for the respect Russia has today are the Cossacks, and why I said Russia fights for Orthodoxy is because back then the only thing you needed to believe in was "christ" in order to become a cossack and as long as you met the physical requirements it did not matter where you were from, manpower with brotherhood meant everything

Vladimir		10-Aug-2005 23:40
I cannot argue with you there about the Russian Cossacks giving the motherland the respect it has today, though I added the qoute Napolean made of them, Hitler would've also if he had known stalin used them in Stalingrad. When he was desperate to defend his city he called for the Cossacks scattered across Siberia and signed a contract with them saying he'll give them back their land and military service if they won the city....obviously the first city to ever defeat the nazis was stalingrad and its obvious the poorly eqiuped and demoralzied Soviet troops didnt win it alone, some people do know stalin called for reinforcements from the far east of Russia but they dont clarify who in many cases, if you search deep within soviet military files you'll see that they clarified themselves as Russian Cossacks most of which leftover from the revolution, but since the communists despised cossacks they took the credit and stalin refused to give them land nor military service like he promised. It is clear the only persons that should take the credit for the respect Russia has today are the Cossacks, and why I said Russia fights for Orthodoxy is because back then the only thing you needed to believe in was "christ" in order to become a cossack and as long as you met the physical requirements it did not matter where you were from, manpower with brotherhood meant everything

Cloisters		10-Aug-2005 09:52
Blood and sweat of your grandfathers?? That's exactly what is meant by the fact that the people who did the majority of the fighting for Russians were the Caucasians and the Ukranians!!!!!!!!! Still, it's pleasing to see that you realize it is the Caspian Cossacks who give you any form of self-respect as a nation. ps I hate to break the news to you, but not every Slav is an Orthodox, by any stretch of the imagination. Might come as a shock, I know, but somebody like you must surely have got used to it by now.

Cloisters		10-Aug-2005 09:31
Blood and sweat of your grandfathers?? That's exactly what is meant by the fact that the people who did the majority of the fighting for Russians were the Caucasians and the Ukranians!!!!!!!!! Still, it's pleasing to see that you realize it is the Caspian Cossacks who give you any form of self-respect as a nation. ps I hate to break the news to you, but not every Slav is an Orthodox, by any stretch of the imagination. Might come as a shock, I know, but somebody like you must surely have got used to it by now.

Vladimir		10-Aug-2005 03:35
For the sweat and blood of our grandfathers who fought till every death and battle wound till victory over defeat, muslims do not realize who the true god of all gods is, every slavic nation stands their ground for Orthodoxy, pray the true way and fight the true way, there are no rules in warfare, Russia was never a rich nation, but always true to its words in times of warfare, our enemies go down in defeat only to respect and qoute our fighting in the end "If I had the Imperial Russian Cossacks in my army I would rule the world with them, they are the best cavalry among all who exist" - Napolean 1812 "The fiercest fighting in all the war I've seen yet are in the farm lands of Ukraine, and we've yet to reach the outskirts of Russia" - Adolf Hitler WWII, who was first to defeat the largest land empire in all of history, Russia Cossacks stationed on the Volga against Ghengis Khan soldiers, who was first to introduce barb wire in warfare, Russians in the northern islands of japan which we still own into the 21st century, SLAVA ISUS Glorify Christ, for only the christian religion speaks of Satan in the Gospel, Satan himself spoke of our God is the true God of all Gods, that is how he became satan for attempting to overthrow God from his thrown when he was an angel of God, soon afterward he was thrown from heaven and down to earth until which he will be walk until the Apocolypse between Heaven and Hell, it all makes sense, as it states in the Gospel to "stand your ground", Russia ultimately is a crytal clear image of that proverb against false gods and will continue winning wars till the end of human civilization on its own soil.

Krajek		06-Aug-2005 13:46
Interesting.. So obviously, Serbs also need to take a long hard look at themselves. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Sarmatians

AI		06-Aug-2005 13:37
http://www.answers.com/topic/origin-of-serbs

LOL		06-Aug-2005 00:04
Yes, Very good AJ. You speak wise words and it has been a delight to see how the Russians just blatantly copied(or should that be have stolen?) text and tried to use it for their own historic agenda.. Very sad, indeed. Vladimir, the "Cossacks"(name derived/corrupted from the word "Caspian"), are THE closest thing in modern times that you will find as being true "Russian"(and probably the only Russian force or entity that is still respected by the rest of the world). And Cossacks, as we all know, are Caucasians and some Ukrainians; not Baltics and whatever bullshit you think!

AJ		05-Aug-2005 21:54
Also Sarmatian, your link is stolen from the following, look..(WHICH IS THE WORLD'S NUMBER 1 SCHOOL FOR SUCH STUDIES - LOOK IT UP!) http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Anthropology/scythian/scyth_sarmat_culture.htm Incidenatlly, "cais" stands for - Circle of Ancient Iranian Studies, and finally, your link says that Sergei V. Rjabchikov copyrighted the text in 1999, Well, my link states they actually copyrighted it in 1998!!! Nice try.

AJ		05-Aug-2005 21:33
The Origin of the Pre-Imperial Iranian Peoples 11/9/2003 Dr Oric Basirov Introduction As late as the closing decades of the 4th century B.C., the Iranian peoples were still the largest and the most widespread group within the great Indo-European family. this position must have been held for thousands of years by their nomadic ancestors, and was not relinquished until well into the Roman period. During those distant millennia, they roamed the vast, limitless Eurasian steppes as pastoralist riders and charioteers; towards the end of the second millennium B.C., some of them, lured by the great civilisations of the Indus vally, Elam, Mesopotamia, and Asia Minor, moved southwards and made permanent settlements. It didn't take very long for one group of these settled people, the Medes, to form the first of the four Iranian empires, and less than 500 years for the Persians, to become the absolute masters of the known world; their nomadic ancestors, however, continued to roam the steppes, unopposed, for a very long time; it was not until the 5th century A.D. that the invading Turkic tribes pushed them out of their homelands into central Europe and further west; by then, of course, vast numbers of them had merged with eastern Europeans to form the core of the modern Slavs [1]. The rest were eventually assimilated in western Europe, especially in France. Sarmatian, it is you who needs to do the research..

Sarmatian		05-Aug-2005 06:41
http://public.kubsu.ru/~usr02898/sl2.htm The nomad and farming Sarmatians (Sauromatae) related to the Scythians were closely connected with farming Meotians in the Kuban region for an appreciable length of time, from about 1st century B.C. - 2nd century A.D. One can suppose that the common culture was based on the nearness of the languages of both components. It is well known that the Scythians spoke an Indo-European language. As O.N. Trubachev proved, the language of the native inhabitants of Kuban, Sindi (Meotians), also belonged to the Indo-European languages. The Sindi were descendants of the ancient Indo-Aryans who stayed in the Northern Caucasus partially (Trubachev 1976; 1978). Scythian (Sarmatian) language is the Proto-Slavonic one. Other Proto-Slavonic dialects are the languages of the Pelasges (the writing of Linear A, and its decorative version on the Phaistos disk) and of the Etruscans (Rjabchikov 1998a). A bronze mirror of Meotian-Sarmatian period (1st - 2nd c. A.D.) was found in the Chernyshov barrow, Republic of Adygea, Russia (Leskov and Lapushnian 1987: 138, fig. 63, the right lower photo). The symbols depicted on it (see figure 1) are a key to the ancient cultures of the Scythians, Sarmatians and Sindi (Meotians), and their descendants, Russians and Circassians. AJ before you post something about Scythians and Sarmatians try doing a little more research please... thanks.

CCF		04-Aug-2005 07:56
I completely agree, AJ.

AJ		04-Aug-2005 07:31
..And one more thing for you fuckwits. Yugoslavia was never 'Russified'. All Tito did was implement Communism(which you say you have renounced anyway)and there was no Red Army or whatever else might reside in your imagination. Serbians claiming allegiance is bullshit and all Serbia is now humbled to the Bosnians in front of the entire Europe, who wouldn't want to have it any other way.

Guest		03-Aug-2005 14:18
nuzdezx un lun hunya.. sea trah nos ulios tradjes mita khuilas zhack!! meayukliz en tros sa mikha yun dremos!! khinosh la musli nos ya ulimax zhack.. Yukhimoza un Russ noya Serb bitayulvieskyiev nos ri qhuna astakh..

CCF		02-Aug-2005 18:36
How's that for a reply..? :)

Slovakk		02-Aug-2005 17:23
Areas such as the Baltic have always relied heavily on their own paganized religions. In fact, speak to any patriotic Baltic, and they will surely tell you about their adored ancient idols and insist on showing you drawings of their once great nation(?) What interests me is that the Soviet Union was only interested in the Baltic states to use as a buffer zone, whilst Stalin was trying to outmanouvevre Hitler. The Baltic has never had any real relevance to either Russia(other than being a safety jacket) or to Christianity in Europe or elsewhere. If Jesus was to see how the Serbs, Russians or Baltics conduct themselves these days.. it would be safe to say that he would imagine you were all talking about another Jesus Christ.

Manoman		02-Aug-2005 16:57
2 XPEH BAM, You have little idea about the beginnings of Christianity! Without the CAUCASUS Christianity would never have existed. CAUCASUS nurtured Christianity to it's present day form, and the longest standing Christians living anywhere in the world are in the CAUCASUS!! And what's with your talk on Renaissance? Read more, dear child, the Renaissance was a direct response to pulling a bleak Europe out of the Dark Ages because Islam's own discovery movement was doing so well. And where did te idea for the Renaissance come from? That's right; CLASSICAL era! Which was all about the knowledge from the great ancient areas such as Asia Minor(Turkey), Greece, Persia and the CAUCASUS!!! CAUCASIANS spunked YOU out, XPEH BAM - NEVER FORGET IT!!!!!!

Guest		02-Aug-2005 07:21
stop to killing them if them stop to killing muslim.. we want life.. n more important we want peace..!! thanks a lot Dima.. coz u know Muslim and christ are people.. but many people don't know Muslim are people.. u look now in the the world.. Muslim downtrodden.. they hijack the muslim land.. they killing muslim.. and now we have no manner others.. reciprocate is a one think.. Do you like and happy if they kill u r brothers??

Dima		01-Aug-2005 23:48
Now... please stop that shit! Muslim or Christ they are all people, please respect them!

Guest		31-Jul-2005 16:07
Kill and send all serbian go to hell!! Kill and send russian army go to hell!! Kill and send america army go to hell!! Kill and send Thailand army go to hell!! Kill and send Philipine army go to hell!!

Guest		31-Jul-2005 15:57
Haha.. go to hell serbia.. Jesus is not death!! and one day.. he will come to kill you and send you go to hell.. insyAllah.. My God is Allah S.W.T and Isa or you call Jesus is my prophet be4 Muhammad S.W.T Go to hell murderer!!!

2MrYouKnowExactly..		28-Jul-2005 21:59
..You are swimming in your own vomit. When people get together; do you know what the most dangerous thing is? Their minds. That piece of grey matter in between their ears. Only thing is, you are an amateur at controlling it. And you only understand it on the most basic of levels, Ruski. One day you will find the truth. And it's not to be found on the web, in your mind, on your tongue, through your so-called-but-you-don't-know-the-real-meaning macho talk; but inside of you. If you had another chance: Where would you have changed it?

Rasmus		28-Jul-2005 19:11
Ok people. Let me tell it like it is. Both Russia and Chechnya are guilty and both sides have committed wrongs. But Chechnya is the smaller dog and is somehow beating the bigger dog everytime.

AJ		28-Jul-2005 19:05
Slavs are obviously slaves to other tribes. Look: The Slavs were probably dominated in succession by the Scythians and the Sarmatians (both Iranian tribes), by the Goths, by the Huns, and by the Avars, in whose westward expansion they shared and whose slaves they often were. http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/section/Slavs_DominationandExpansion.asp

AJ		28-Jul-2005 18:46
Slavs are obviously slaves to other tribes. Look: The Slavs were probably dominated in succession by the Scythians and the Sarmatians (both Iranian tribes), by the Goths, by the Huns, and by the Avars, in whose westward expansion they shared and whose slaves they often were. http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/section/Slavs_DominationandExpansion.asp

Lawrenson		28-Jul-2005 18:02
Hey guys, in England last night they showed a programme about Chechnya; and it was made by the aunt of some guy called Maskadov or something. Anyway, they showed Russians getting their asses kicked all over the place and in one scene 5 Chechen militia took out a whole Russian convey. All this at a most sensitive time and they were showing the RUSSIANS to be the TERRORISTS. I think you should take note, Ruski's; you ain't Christians you are commie godless heathens. You don't know the true love of Christ at all.

MUJAHIDEEN		28-Jul-2005 08:24
allah akbar, whether you like it or not all of you russians islam will roll the world sooner or later you will see the mujahideen taking city after city inshallah, and when GOD's will we will free not just chechnya the raod will continue to JURESALEM . one last thing dont be affraid if you kill KHATTAB we here to till that we all are khattab . ALLAH AKBAR

Vladimir		27-Jul-2005 23:10
For the sweat and blood of our grandfathers who fought till every death and battle wound till victory over defeat, muslims do not realize who the true god of all gods is, every slavic nation stands their ground for Orthodoxy, pray the true way and fight the true way, there are no rules in warfare, Russia was never a rich nation, but always true to its words in times of warfare, our enemies go down in defeat only to respect and qoute our fighting in the end "If I had the Imperial Russian Cossacks in my army I would rule the world with them, they are the best cavalry among all who exist" - Napolean 1812 "The fiercest fighting in all the war I've seen yet are in the farm lands of Ukraine, and we've yet to reach the outskirts of Russia" - Adolf Hitler WWII, who was first to defeat the largest land empire in all of history, Russia Cossacks stationed on the Volga against Ghengis Khan soldiers, who was first to introduce barb wire in warfare, Russians in the northern islands of japan which we still own into the 21st century, SLAVA ISUS Glorify Christ, for only the christian religion speaks of Satan in the Gospel, Satan himself spoke of our God is the true God of all Gods, that is how he became satan for attempting to overthrow God from his thrown when he was an angel of God, soon afterward he was thrown from heaven and down to earth until which he will be walk until the Apocolypse between Heaven and Hell, it all makes sense, as it states in the Gospel to "stand your ground", Russia ultimately is a crytal clear image of that proverb against false gods and will continue winning wars till the end of human civilization on its own soil.

Russian Orthodox		21-Jul-2005 18:49
KILL ALL MUSLIMS!! DEATH TO ISLAM!! KOSOVO IS SERBIA! ISREAL IS ISREAL! CHECHNYA IS RUSSIA! WE LOVE JESUS! DEATH TO TERRORISTS!

igor01		07-Jul-2005 22:27
Thanks for the feedback .22, I'll look into the forum functionality.

.22		07-Jul-2005 18:41
You make some good points, Igor. Nevertheless I am an unregistered user and my posts are appearing on the forum.

igor01		07-Jul-2005 16:03
.22, I agree that shutting down the forum completely is not a good idea and instead I've simply disallowed unregistered users the ability to post comments. The reason you're not seeing the more offensive ones now is because I've had to delete them due to extremely idiotic and hateful content. Unfortunately I cannot moderate this forum on a permanent basis so allowing only registered users to post here seems like a prudent compromise right now. I hope this way visitors would still share their thoughts about the pictures and the war in general while the couch commandos are discouraged from waging their mindless flame wars and providing "quick and easy" solutions to all of mankind's problems (the said solutions invariably ranging from ethnic cleansing and/or genocide to turning entire subcontinents into a radioactive parking lot). I regret having to restrict the scope of visitors that can share comments. I do appreciate all visitors' interest to the gallery and hope that they find it a useful and engaging resource on the Chechnya conflict.

.22		07-Jul-2005 01:13
Igor01 Please keep the forum open. Personally I see absolutely no evidence of hatred in the last few posts and in actuality I have found it to be quite informative. The Iraq digression seems to have been the cause of most stupid comments, so lets all agree to keep that out of the issue. But come on Igor; you can't go posting photographs of burnt Chechens or dead Russians and honestly expect people to comment on the lighting.

.22		06-Jul-2005 23:48
Igor01 Please keep the forum open. Personally I see absolutely no evidence of hatred in the last few posts and in actuality I have found it to be quite informative. The Iraq digression seems to have been the cause of most stupid comments, so lets all agree to keep that out of the issue. But come on Igor; you can't go posting photographs of burnt Chechens or dead Russians and honestly expect people to comment on the lighting.

Hansen		06-Jul-2005 23:34
Bad Lad, I don't know why Chechens sparked the war in Dagestan, although it could have something to do with oil maybe? Necro99, Why don't you try looking at some Russians torturing Chechens and raping their women? http://hrw.org/english/docs/2000/02/18/russia410.htm Because you are stupid, scared and chicken. Because you know you lose everytime.

Sarge		06-Jul-2005 23:29
So why delete Poland Man's comments and not the others hey Igor?? I think you will find it is Necro99 and BadLad spreading the hate..

Gonzo		06-Jul-2005 15:47
Good call Igor01

igor01		06-Jul-2005 15:26
TO ALL VISITORS: After numerous failed attempts to pursuade everybody to stay civil in their discussions I've had to disallow unregistered users the ability to post comments. Hopefully this will cut down on the number of hateful posts we've all seen too much of lately. Thank you.

Bad Lad		06-Jul-2005 09:45
Iraq, Chechnya. Whats the difference. Why did chechens spark the 2nd war by fighting in to Dagestan even when Russia would go back and fuck them up?

Necro99		06-Jul-2005 04:12
Yeah everybody except the Russians who fight them, you amer urod/eurotrash. Why don't you go in Chechnya and see how chechens treat their prisoners? Look at some chechen execution videos on the internet. "Who care what you think??" People who know what's best for Russia and the world.

AI		05-Jul-2005 20:21
LOL @ Necro99!! Who care what you think??

Mispent banter		23-Jun-2005 18:00
The Slavs were probably dominated in succession by the Scythians and the Sarmatians (both Iranian tribes), by the Goths, by the Huns, and by the Avars, in whose westward expansion they shared and whose slaves they often were. http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/section/Slavs_DominationandExpansion.asp

Say no more		23-Jun-2005 00:33
Well whadya know? After all the talk.. STALIN WAS A CAUCASIAN!!!!!!!

AJ		23-Jun-2005 00:30
Moscow Mayor, Luzhkov, has even said that all Chechens should be expelled from the city � even though many Chechens play a big role in the city�s cultural, scientific and economic life. Other politicians have said that �all Caucasians� should be kicked out of Moscow. That would mean not only Chechens and Ingushi being expelled, but also Armenians and Georgians and, of course, Ossetians, who were the main victims of the Beslan school siege. This would be a historical irony, as Joseph Stalin, who, as part of his war against the Bolshevik principles of internationalism, re-introduced Great Russian chauvinism as the state ideology, was himself an Ossetian!

Ralph		22-Jun-2005 00:59
OK, in that case: love for one country means hate for another. Small people equals small lives. Small lives equals small experience. Small experience equals small attitude which equals people who dont identify themselves. I think all that could be said has been said. You state yourself it would only be repeating a cycle. I would help you in your quest to be rid of this terrible afliction that is your preoccupation with Chechnya; but deep down you know the truth too.

Guest		21-Jun-2005 23:00
Ok, it was stupid, i just thought i might start a regular discussion, but since yall would rather just call people names lets get back to what we were talking about before i came here, which was prety much You fucking chechyn dogs deserve to die and Russia your women are fucking ugly and you worthless bitches deserve to die etc.

CYD		21-Jun-2005 22:50
Your point was still stupid. First: identify yourself.

CS		21-Jun-2005 22:41
LOL, how did i change this forum from a chechyn war forum to a iraq war forum? all i said was that wars are no longer won due to unconventional warfare and then stated an example, if i do recal correctly it was you all who changed the subject completely, so lets get talking about the chechyn war again and just drop this topic

We both know..		21-Jun-2005 22:13
I'm presuming you are the same Guest because stupidity often has the habit of similarity. Had I not known better I would have asked why you are trying to change a Chechnya forum into an Iraq vs USA debate. I might also have pointed out the obvious as to who sold Saddam those weapons in the first place. But I wont, because if youre so damn stupid you come out with things like "yall", one realizes war sometimes does have an angle: To send fuckers like you there.

Guest		21-Jun-2005 19:40
Its so much fun to fuck with you people here, yall get so worked up over nothing

Guest		21-Jun-2005 19:22
If you dont think they ever had weapons of mass destruction look at what they did to the kurds, there was no reason not to think they had those weapons

Miles		21-Jun-2005 10:15
Hmmm... made up lies.. sounds familiar.. Like.. WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION MAYBE???? LOL @ U and the fucked up people you have been talking to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest		20-Jun-2005 21:50
Michael Moore is a fucking idiot, he bases his movie on nothing but emotion and made up lies, there is absolutely no facts in that piece of crap

Samuel Peyps		20-Jun-2005 21:15
Please children, show some more common sense. Imagine if you owned every single media channel in the West and you decided to show people images of WW2 and screened it everywhere as being the conflict in Chechnya? WHO WOULD BE ANY THE WISER?? Who are the people who benefit from this conflict?.. ASK YOURSEVES THAT AND WHY? Although even if everybody did know the truth: I still say there would be fuck all we could do about it.. Because people ALWAYS GIVE IN TO TEMPTATION!!!!!! ;)

Svetlana		20-Jun-2005 21:00
Reason America are losing in Iraq is because of what Michael Moore said. America went out there chest all puffed-up trying to look like they were the superior nation. Superior nation of bigots, maybe. So to all those of you who supported America, thought "Yeah!! Go USA!!Kick some ASS!!!!" I say onto thee: DONT YOU FEEL FUCKING STUPID NOW????!!!!!! You know I take pleasure in watching the embarrassment unfold...

Jorgen		20-Jun-2005 20:59
Reason America are losing in Iraq is because of what Michael Moore said. America went out there chest all puffed-up trying to look like they were the superior nation. Superior nation of bigots, maybe. So to all those of you who supported America, thought "Yeah!! Go USA!!Kick some ASS!!!!" I say onto thee: DONT YOU FEEL FUCKING STUPID NOW????!!!!!! You know I take pleasure in watching the embarrassment unfold...

Nick		20-Jun-2005 20:59
Reason America are losing in Iraq is because of what Michael Moore said. America went out there chest all puffed-up trying to look like they were the superior nation. Superior nation of bigots, maybe. So to all those of you who supported America, thought "Yeah!! Go USA!!Kick some ASS!!!!" I say onto thee: DONT YOU FEEL FUCKING STUPID NOW????!!!!!! You know I take pleasure in watching the embarrassment unfold...

Nick		20-Jun-2005 20:47
Reason America are losing in Iraq is because of what Michael Moore said. America went out there chest all puffed-up trying to look like they were the superior nation. Superior nation of bigots, maybe. So to all those of you who supported America, thought "Yeah!! Go USA!!Kick some ASS!!!!" I say onto thee: DONT YOU FEEL FUCKING STUPID NOW????!!!!!! You know I take pleasure in watching the embarrassment unfold...

PC Correct		20-Jun-2005 18:27
Actually dont answer because it is obvious your stupidity preceeds you. You need to take check of what nonsense you are typing before you send it; that way you wont look like such an idiot when everybody reads it.

Likewise		20-Jun-2005 18:22
And thats uncoventional!!! So I am presuming that the kamakazi pilots in WW2 were conventional? I am presuming that the USA dropping a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki killing and maiming hundreds of thousands to this day is also conventional? Like Hitler using chemical gas was conventional? Like roadside bombs were not used by the Allied forces during both WW1 and WW2? Maybe I can presume that you are another Russian talking complete and utter bollocks??

Guest		20-Jun-2005 16:35
Maybe wars are no longer won due to the style of fighting going on right now, for instance the war in Iraq will never be won due to the unconventional warfare brought on by the enemy (suicide bombers, road side bombs etc.)

nonpartisan		20-Jun-2005 05:49
Chechnya is a war that will never be won... It doesn't seem like any wars are "won" anymore

To Guest		19-Jun-2005 18:37
You think what you like. I am talking about the fact that there are RUSSIANS in here who claim that this conflict is about Russia retaining integrity of her lands, not religion. BTW most people who protest this war are NOT muslims, as they are usually fighting a war somewhere. But my point is you dont even know who you are hating. Still, interesting fetishes you have there..

Guest		19-Jun-2005 16:33
I want to stick sausage links up some muslim butts and whip your balls with some bacon strips

Guest		19-Jun-2005 16:28
More pictures of dead Muslims, please!

Guest		19-Jun-2005 16:26
More pictures of dead Muslims, please!

Guest		16-Jun-2005 22:45
It seems like your the one fueling the fire

Guest		16-Jun-2005 22:45
It seems like your the one fueling the fire

Guest		16-Jun-2005 22:43
It seems like your the one fueling the fire

To mujahedin		16-Jun-2005 22:15
Dont fuel the fire online. Its bad enough it happens in real life.

To m67		16-Jun-2005 22:10
To blame Beslan on Islam is just plain wrong and you know it. Beslan was a tragic occasion, but it was committed by Caucasians TO Caucasians. So why do Caucasians have to suffer for it? Would the children not have wished for a brighter, more peaceful future? Try taking your head out of your a**e.

m67		15-Jun-2005 20:24
to mujahedin i find it funny that islamobots like you can even talk about bravery in battle, considering how your brave friends murdered children in cold blood in Beslan. Russia will never forget not forgive this crime. your Allah wont help you.

For fuck's sake..		08-Jun-2005 15:50
Has everybody gone completely insane??? Here is a breakdown of events so far.. RUSSIA:hujdkfvnsjkldgvbdfhnjklfbnd klfcbndkl CHECHNYA:hdfusvhuifjvidufrghqwaolvjsdgbcloksja RUSSIA:hdssbikvcsokdhfvbdjusokdfurbgkfrdejvk CHECHNYA:hujdsivfghedjsolvhbduhjrfygvhfdokdks LATVIA:bhcsddshbvkshdfgvkjfngjfrudegbfvjfjusd POLAND:bgcvduusgbvfkidfjusbfchujdfksksvdhdyhs RUSSIA:bv jdsxjxshdcvcjcfksxhdcgchskijdhyfged CHECHNYA:hdhvcvsjudsjcvbndhsikjsjdvgcvhyudfj ...... Peace in the Middle East..

For fuck's sake...		08-Jun-2005 15:46
...give it a rest.

mujahideen		08-Jun-2005 12:17
allah akbar, why dont you fight like men russians,why do u keep hiding behid your tanks and fighters,why dont you just fight like men, you have been always cowrdsand you will still cowrds,will know this sooner or later ISLAM will role the world. ALLAH AKBAR

Listen in and listen good..		07-Jun-2005 20:48
This war makes me sick.

Freddie		07-Jun-2005 18:41
That time will come, one day you'll see, when we can all be friends..

Armi		07-Jun-2005 16:11
To A Russian From Europe, You are right about the European sympathy factor. The Russian government did too little to dispel the rumours and heresay that were flying around at the time of the first conflict. To the average European, Chechnya seems like a cute little village where people are hard done by. Also, the Chechen appearance(mix of Turk-Slavic blood) has always seemed to capture the attention of Europeans for some strange reason. I keep hearing of Putin's desire to change the image of Russia using more updated techniques, but I am afraid I have yet to see the fruits of this endevour. Yes it is definately better than the Soviet Era, but let's face it: it couldn't exactly be any worse, could it? Of course Chechnya is not only about religion, if it were, you would not see an Islamic nation supporting Russia period. There are those who don't like stability, but even after Perestroika- a healthy dose of Russian paranoia has always been on the agenda, so if its not Chechnya- its going to be something else. At the end of the day, Russia needs to regain a strong sense of identity based on the positives, the country has a great lot going for her. Not just in terms of size and history, but also resources. I can assure you blind nationalism is not the way forward. When is Russia going to really address this problem? When is a Caucasian going to feel comfortable in Moscow? These are the things that matter.. From there, I would say the worst of the Chechen conflict is definately over, it was only ever the mentally-affected morons from both sides who made this conflict ever see the light of a film-strip.

Armi		07-Jun-2005 15:45
To Serbian, You just showed your incompetance. I am Protestant Christian, and judging by the replies from RUSSIANS; this war is not about religion. So once again please tell me; what the fuck has Serbia got to do with Russian territory?

Nik		07-Jun-2005 04:01
I've read some comments on the site...omfg! PEOPLE!! do some freaking research b4 trying to prove anything to each other!! and remember, every coin has TWO sides! Do not trust any source of information completely!(anyone even remotely interested in politics or world issues is aware of that by the age of 12 or so) Besides - "truth is always the first casualty of war", keep that in mind, unless you've seen something with your own eyes. To all Russian-speaking people I can recommend www.artofwar.ru for literature about chechen war(and other conflicts), written by people who've witnessed it(mostly veterans). There are a few translated stories available there...in english, serbian, ukranian, german languages...perhaps even more. I feel for all of the innocent victims, and i hope that degenerate imbeciles on both sides will pay for their crimes...ie: blood-thirsty animals that try to cover their crimes with religion and senile old farts in charge of the Russian forces, who think they are Napoleons.... Good pics, seen quite a few of them around on other sites.

A Russian From Europe		06-Jun-2005 21:47
To Serbian I suspect, in terms of religion this war is much different from the conflict in Kosovo. In Chechnia religion only comes to play when terrorists need "investors". As far as I remember, Basaev was a komsomol leader at the soviet time, Dudaev was a full member of the kommunist party and he had a soviet military rank of a colonel. When the first war started there was no mention of Islam. They adopted Vakhabizm later and only to attract investment from fundamentalist terrorist organizations. It is not a religios war, period. There is a difference between Islam and fundamentalist Islam. Just like there is a difference between Christianity and fundamentalist Christianity. Islam does not say that non-believers must be killed. That's one of interpretations fundamentalists use. In the middle ages Inquisition had their interpretations of the Bible which justified burning people, organizing Holy Crusades and so on. Doesn't it look similar?

A Russian From Europe		06-Jun-2005 21:28
To Armi You are absolutely right about the atmosphere of suspicion towards Caucasian looking people. For example, in Moscow the chances of a Caucasian to be stopped by the police and searched are much higher then for a native-looking person. It's common among ordinary people to associate Chechens and all "Caucasian looking people" with terrorists or bandits. In public transport you can often hear grannies complaining about Caucasians taking over the entire city. Nationalizm in all its forms frustrates me a lot, but I understend _why_ that is happening. I think one of the challenges that the Russian government is facing is to reverse that attitude. The country needs to be re-united in peoples minds first, otherwise these conflicts will never end. Unfortunately, this is a very difficult thing to do. As for the European symphathy for the "Chechen cause", yes, that's not only because of the Russian dislike. Our (Russian) government didn't actually do much in educating the west. In fact, they are only starting to understand (or, at least I hope so) _how_ western media work. Old soviet propaganda was abandoned during the Eltsin period but emerging new PR technologies have been only targeting the internal audience. We were too busy self-reproaching, abandoning our own values and I'm not talking here about communist values - I'm glad they are gone. I'm talking about the basic values whic every nation _must_ have. There was a time in 90-ies when the word "patriot" almost became a curse!. How one can expect Europe to see the full picture if the only information we were giving them was negative? Now the government has even allocated some budget in an attempt to change that, which I think is good. In any case, it's very difficult for anyone to understand what's going on there. There is one thing I am sure of: this war is no different from any other, it is all about money, power, spheres of influence. It is not about freedom, Islam, Christianity or _any_ other divine cause. The roots of the terror in Chechnia lie much deeper then that. Someone just doesn't want to see stability coming to this region and in Russia in general.

Serbian		06-Jun-2005 20:17
To Armi: Yes this does have to do with religion of course....Its a Jihad just like the Koran says kill none-believers.You must be muslim armi....

Armi		06-Jun-2005 20:10
To A Russian From Europe. Now that you have explained it that way, I am understanding the Russian situation more. A lot of what you say is very true there, and yes, Russia is to be truly commended for opposition to the Iraq war. But try looking at it this way: I simply disagree with Caucasian looking people thought of suspiciously in Russia. Thats what makes me frustrated; I cannot understand how people view this as acceptable. Now, I agree that Russia faces a lot of bad press, of course, America had to go to town with the imperialistic Russian image, and it still hasn't quite been shaken off yet. However, general European symphathy for the Chechens cause has more to do I think than simply Russian dislike. Anyway, you are right in that you know a lot more than me about this situation; sometimes it seems you let emotion get the better of you, but I guess you have been personally involved, so it can be rationalized in a way. Anyway, I am a Russo-Persian born & bred in the West, who came onto this site, like you OMOH, under many guises to try to understand the situation, and also to quiten some 2FACED Americans but ended up getting carried away. To my knowledge Iran encouraged and aided Russia in attempts to quash Chechen misbehaviour, and to be fair have almost infalliably maintained an excellent relationship since Russia took the Caucasus away. Judging by the voicings of Latvian, Poles, Serbians, etc. etc. however, there definately seems to be more about this lying beneath the surface. What I will agree with is that the brutality has been very disturbing, and images like these followed by hate captions are almost guaranteed to get people talking bollocks. But that's about it really. Whatever happens, I just hope the fear and mistreatment goes away. Too many people in Russia have overly-strong opinions on the Caucasus situation, and most of them have absolutely fuck-all to do with it in the first place(except they want to fit in round the table). They confuse me. A final note: "But mind you: Mr Bush doesn't read books and he doesn't know the history. If he did, he would know that Hitler, Napoleon and many others in the distant past had the same dream and what happened to them? They all have something in common - they came to Russia with war and they got crushed." Absolutely genius.

A Russian from Europe		05-Jun-2005 20:04
People, most of you here don't know the first thing about this war! Yet you all make your judgement which is based on that cr*p you are all fed with by the western mass media. What's good for the American Empire is always good for you because that's what they teach you. I've been living in Europe for 5 years and I've seen all the lies about Russia first hand. Amasingly, the level of lies depends on how Russia behaves, i.e. the peak was when we did not support that crusade for Iraqi oil. But, do you know that chechnia _WAS_ given independence after the first war? And what happened? They tried to start a "holly war" in neighbouring republics like Dagestan! Have you heard anything about blown up blocks of apartments in Moscow? That happened long before the 9/11. But that happened in Moscow, not in NYC so nobody cared and this went unnoticed. I lived in Moscow at that time. An unexploded bomb was found in the block next to mine. Do you know how does it feel when terror comes to your city? According to the western media Russians are not people, they eat children at breakfast and so on and so on. Did you ever think that someone really wants _you_ to believe in these stories? Someone who hate to see Russia recovering from the deep crisis it found itself in the 80-90ies. Someone whose "defence" budget is 10 times bigger then enyone else's. Someone who's ultimate dream is to conquer the world. Someone who organised training camps for ppl like Bin Laden back in 80-s. But mind you: Mr Bush doesn't read books and he doesn't know the history. If he did, he would know that Hitler, Napoleon and many others in the distant past had the same dream and what happened to them? They all have something in common - they came to Russia with war and they got crushed. Finally, re all those stries about Russian soldiers killing innocent people. You need to know Chechen culture to fully understand what's going on there. A man without a weapon there is not a man. Weapon is a part of their culture. If you see your friends being shot by people wearing civilian cloth every day you would start to hate pretty soon. Unfortunately that hate often gets extended to Chechens in general rather then terrorists, especially, when you don't know who is a civilian and who is a terrorist. But war is war. We, Russians, were not the ones who started it. I really hope this all comes to a peaceful solution, but I really don't forsee this happening in the nearest future. Apologies for this long e-mail, but I couldn't leave some comments here unanswered.

Armi		05-Jun-2005 13:03
To Serbian, I dont like terror any more than you. But Serbia is Serbia, not Russia. And even if it were; I dont think there is a Russian soldier or Chechen rebel that cares about the Serbian situation and vice-versa. Please dont drag religion into it; because this is about Russia finding the best way to restore security and peace. And if you are talking abouut Serbia; ermm.. have you seen the news lately???

Serbian		04-Jun-2005 14:31
Armi you want to know what kosovo has to do with this??? Its that Serbs in Kosovo feel the same kind of terror from ethnic albanians as Russians do in Chechnya(Russia) on our holy Orthodox land...

OSN		04-Jun-2005 09:07
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=50117

Armi		04-Jun-2005 01:38
Man, I give up. I thought this was supposed to be a forum about Chechnya but its soon turned into God knows what. To my understanding Jesus dismissed judgement, and Christianity was about never having to let things come to this. I dont know what Kosovo has to do with this situatuin, and I came on here wanting to learn but I guess hatred's best forgotten.

Bosnian Brother		02-Jun-2005 05:48
Selam to my Chechen brothers in Islam and fight for freedom from the subhuman ppl like Ruskis.

Serbian		01-Jun-2005 22:14
THERE IS NO TAKING SIDES..THERE IS JUST GOD'S SIDE.

Serbian		01-Jun-2005 22:11
Message to Chechnyans: Our Brave Serbian Orthodox hand will reach you in Chechnya and take you to hell just like we did in Serbian-Bosnia to every terrorist.�� 3 ��

Serbian		01-Jun-2005 22:07
All Ethnic Albanians and Chechnyan terrorists in Russia and Kosovo the heart of Serbia will burn in hells deepest pits...I love Jesus! (--l--) l l

Serbian		01-Jun-2005 22:07
All Ethnic Albanians and Chechnyan terrorists in Russia and Kosovo the heart of Serbia will burn in hells deepest pits...I love Jesus! (--l--) l l

Serbian		01-Jun-2005 22:02
CHECHNYA is Russia just like Kosovo is Serbia,god bless Russia and Serbia 100%Orthodox Pride...Kill every chechnyan terrorist on the face of this earth!Burn the koran!!!!Every chechnyan terrorist here who supports this terror will burn in hell one day but for now just look at that cross brother Russians have in Beslan....

Serbian		01-Jun-2005 22:01
CHECHNYA is Russia just like Kosovo is Serbia,god bless Russia and Serbia 100%Orthodox Pride...Kill every chechnyan terrorist on the face of this earth!Burn the koran!!!!Every chechnyan terrorist here who supports this terror will burn in hell one day but for now just look at that cross brother Russians have in Beslan....

Armi		29-May-2005 16:56
Still you have not yet answered my question; why has Russia allowed this policy to go against other peoples of the Caucasus, ESPECIALLY when you say they don't see them as bothers? As it is, and from what you say: I am sure there are also Russian soldiers who rape and kill with a disgusting grin on their face, does that make all Russians sub-human? No, of course it doesn't!! So why not accept that there is an unhealthy attitude amongst some Russians towards people who may or may not be from Chechnya? You mention much was built by peoples of the FSU, so why does FSU, be it Ukraine, Kazakhstan or anywhere face discrimination in Russia? Last I heard; Armenians hated Chechens more than Russians ever could. On a parting note: pretty much every road you drive on in mother Russia was built by Azerbaijani's, not for the purpose of spreading the miracle of transport, but because there was work to be done and people could profit, is this not the same in Chechnya? Better still is to let the Chechens rebuild their land, remove the fear and hatred, and then Russia can still regain control and income from Chechnya without poisoning elements of society and peoples' minds. Tell me; is this not a better solution?

AD_Bestias		29-May-2005 14:05
There is no war for Liberation going on in Chechnya. We, Russians, are trying to keep the integrity of OUR land. Checnya as a territory has nothing to do with Chechen people; they are the most unattractive and repulsive murderous scum imaginable. They had been living like packs of animals in the south of what today is Chechnya. Other nations of Caucasus (including Dagestanians), which surely have some concepts of personal honor, expelled Chechens from their communities repeatedly and never considered them brothers. Their language consists of 2000 - 3000 words, most of which are derived from Russian, it can be used primarily to express simple thoughts. Even leaders of Chechen gangs use Russian sometimes, because they instinctively feel their inability to get understood using Chechen phrases. All houses, hospitals, schools in Chechnya were built by Russians and other peoples of the Soviet Union and not by these savages. We opened the doors of universities and libraries to the bastards hoping that such measures probably would help them to overcome animal instincts and become members of our society. But history proved once again that there COULD NOT BE ANY COMPROMISES between homo sapiens and the subhuman creaures, who would cut heads with a disgusting grin, who would burn and rape and destroy everything!!! And for all of you guilt-ridden White airheads I will say this: continue eating your liberal meals served to you by the media - maybe the healthiest elements among you will fell a strong urge to throw up. And for true liberal types any kind of education is impossible, they are goyim - Jews are right about White liberals. For these people I would recommend euthanasia or... a journey to Chechnya, to one of their beloved "rebels". The latter, of course, is simply more painful version of the former.

Armi		29-May-2005 11:26
So long as innocent Chechens and Caucasians are not caught up in the process of detecting the terrorists; then I dont think anyone can have a problem with Russia's actions. There is nothing wrong with Russia wanting to protect herself. But many people see how the authorities sometimes treat people from this region and so they lose sympathy. Imagine you are a man who looks like Basaev, but you do not agree with Chechen rebel actions and you fully support Kremlin. Then one day Russian authorities grab hold of you and treat you suspiciously. What do you then expect that man to think? If you can answer this question for me then I will agree with you. One thing I can never agree with though is the process of hate and fear. Until the day this is addressed, I'm afraid people are going to react to it. Both Russians and Chechens should know better than this.

SPETSNAZ		26-May-2005 20:40
It is to owe of all to collaborate in the detecion and elimination of the Chechen terrorists. The chechen mujahideen are terrorists, like the terrorist of ETA or Al-Qaeda and like terrorists should be treaties. All people that want now the truth can look the videos making for this terrorists, in this videos can look that this terrorists not are persons, are animals. Only one animal can cut the head to another person that this entreating for if life or to use as human shield to innocent childrens. The problem in this conflict is that many people do not want to know the truth and to idealize to the Chechen terrorist to be able to use them as politic argument but the chechen mujahideen not are one argument, are terrorists and the future of terrorists is the prision or the death. Bye: Spetsnaz

Freddie		26-May-2005 16:36
That time will come, one day you'll see, when we can all be friends..

Silly just stupid		26-May-2005 16:33
I think that people on here just argue because of past issues which even they dont understand. It is getting tiresome and boring; chechens this russians that latvia this it sounds like a school for dementia. Grow up children and realize that you are talking absolute rubbish.

Chris Too		26-May-2005 16:30
What are you prople Russia is in chechnya murdering and raping and you are talkin about Media propoganda, The very thought of this is Vile to the core. I satnd with the poor people of chechnya not with the Mujahideen but with the poor people the people who are humans like you,i must also send my prayers to the dead russian child soldiers who were sent to this war by people who hate them as much as the chechens do. please people a bit of humanity this war is not about sides PITY THE NATION!

The Truth		25-May-2005 10:36
fritobandito est niggerito.

Guest		16-May-2005 19:52
russians are true heros brave muther fuckers mad respect for them for putting up with these chechen muslim scum who all deserve to die

og		13-May-2005 21:33
Im reading all these comments and Im thinking; most of them are a reflection of the two sides; childish, angry, too much pride and arrogance, believe only theyre right and everyone else is wrong. These are conflicts within every person and you must realise them. This thread is the very reflection of the war itself.

Chris		07-May-2005 09:58
What are you prople Russia is in chechnya murdering and raping and you are talkin about Media propoganda, The very thought of this is Vile to the core. I satnd with the poor people of chechnya not with the Mujahideen but with the poor people the people who are humans like you,i must also send my prayers to the dead russian child soldiers who were sent to this war by people who hate them as much as the chechens do. please people a bit of humanity this war is not about sides PITY THE NATION!

Freddie		05-May-2005 00:13
That time will come, one day you'll see, when we can all be friends..

SOBR		30-Apr-2005 14:20
+Remember all dead russian soldiers+ +Remember all dead civilian+ +Remember all mothers they lost their sons+ Remember the hard war in Chechnya +R.I.P. Zhenka, Sanya, Jura, Aydenbek+ We never forget you and we never forget the war!!!

Elena		27-Apr-2005 23:45
Dima what will it take for you to forget about your hate? Dont you realize that when you hate someone then they hate you? You keep your mind to yourself because the longer you obsess with hate; the worse it will become. You already know this so why?

Dima		27-Apr-2005 14:36
Now, chechens like war and rape.Chechen women are ugly and very hairy.But if the russian soldier see, how their friends die by a chechen-knife.Or the chechen women shot at you, injured you and you can catch the bitch so you must rape the bitch!!!Yes mafia is a big problem, but in Chechnya,America, Asia and Europe,too.But Mafia is russian problem not yours.You can hear anything, but is it right or wrong???This is my mind and the mind of other russians!And you like chechens???So go to Chechnya and suck chechen penis! In German: Du dumme Schlampe hast von nix eine Ahnung, du Fotze es geht dich nichts an du Mistgestalt, ich scheis auf die Tschetschenen du Nutte!!!! In Russian: Ti yobnutaya suka, idi nahui twar, shto ti dumayesch ili slishish nekowo neinteressuit, salupa debilnaya, ya nenawischu 4e4enzew ti suka!!!

Elena		27-Apr-2005 10:56
both sides always fighting and arguing explaining why each is right. did you ever think that BOTH sides might be WRONG???????

Elena		27-Apr-2005 10:52
And i've heard that mafia is still Russia's biggest problem. you cannot fix chechnya and even chechen obshina run rest of Russia. Chechens like war, Russians like rape.

Dima		26-Apr-2005 21:22
And I've heared, a chechen women shot russian soldiers, or chechens they kill children in Beslan.Why?????????????? They are terrorists! Chechnya is only russian problem, not a problem of USA or other. My brother was killed in Chechnya, he was 19 years old. Many young russian soldiers was killed in Chechnya, the chechens cut their head. Most chechens didn't like go to work, they like war. Read again---> Mik 22-Apr-2005 23:28 I never took sides before i heard all the crap coming mostly from the West, seems to me they have no knowledge about this war, now i'm gona have to educate the West on wars in the East, having the knowledge im gona have to take the Russians side. Mik 22-Apr-2005 23:20 Children please, shame such low IQ, dont believe every thing you hear on T.V its all propaganda, and about the bombing of only civilians, even western controled media stated that the russian gave the Chechens two weeks to get out of the city, decide for your self from the photos who is worse, plenty photos of Russian soldiers with Chechen civilians,the civilians are still alive arnt they,so becarefull of what you say, let a Chechen rebel get hold of a Russian Civilian they'll cut their fingers and ears of before killing them, and thats a well known fact, all the jurnalists who have been kidnapt by Chechens and later killed, i've never heard a story of a jurnbalist being kidnapt by a Russian.

Elena		25-Apr-2005 23:02
QUOTE: > No. but i've heard a story of Chechen women being raped by a Russian.

Mik		22-Apr-2005 23:28
I never took sides before i heard all the crap coming mostly from the West, seems to me they have no knowledge about this war, now i'm gona have to educate the West on wars in the East, having the knowledge im gona have to take the Russians side.

Mik		22-Apr-2005 23:20
Children please, shame such low IQ, dont believe every thing you hear on T.V its all propaganda, and about the bombing of only civilians, even western controled media stated that the russian gave the Chechens two weeks to get out of the city, decide for your self from the photos who is worse, plenty photos of Russian soldiers with Chechen civilians,the civilians are still alive arnt they,so becarefull of what you say, let a Chechen rebel get hold of a Russian Civilian they'll cut their fingers and ears of before killing them, and thats a well known fact, all the jurnalists who have been kidnapt by Chechens and later killed, i've never heard a story of a jurnbalist being kidnapt by a Russian.

Svarvar		02-Apr-2005 16:09
Love each other Russia and Chechnya. You can do it after all you are the same country and I for one would love nothing more in this world than to see Russia live in peace once more.

Svarvar		02-Apr-2005 15:53
SVARVAR YOU ARE GOOD PERSON.

Guest		27-Mar-2005 18:30
Please allow me to quote: "OK people, I didn't post this gallery and allow visitor comments to see this turn into another militaryphotos.com where hormones rage and intellectual discussion has long been replaced by "oh noes, j00 suxx0rz". Please put away those sheisse-launchers, try to understand that real war and suffering that comes with it is nothing like Counterstrike or whatever games you play when not visiting here to share your profound insights on geopolitical affairs. Please show some respect and mutual restraint or take your "whose is bigger" discussions elsewhere, I don't have the time to moderate this gallery, if this idiocy continues unabated, I'll consider nuking the forum altogether. Regards Igor01 "

Guest		27-Mar-2005 18:30
Please allow me to quote: "OK people, I didn't post this gallery and allow visitor comments to see this turn into another militaryphotos.com where hormones rage and intellectual discussion has long been replaced by "oh noes, j00 suxx0rz". Please put away those sheisse-launchers, try to understand that real war and suffering that comes with it is nothing like Counterstrike or whatever games you play when not visiting here to share your profound insights on geopolitical affairs. Please show some respect and mutual restraint or take your "whose is bigger" discussions elsewhere, I don't have the time to moderate this gallery, if this idiocy continues unabated, I'll consider nuking the forum altogether. Regards Igor01 "

Vloddy		27-Mar-2005 14:03
Yes. Situation in Latvia Ukraine Georgia and Kyzgystan is natural for former soviet countries. eastern Europe same thing happened but only much sooner. Chechnya is Russia's affairs, not USA or anyone elses. But Americans and Poles need to be told on this forum or else where will it end? The globalization of America? LOL!!!!!! USA is one country and should not have the power to influence or interfere in anyone elses, did Russia ask another country for help in Chechnya? No! So why should we listen to the world power when she does?

Guest		27-Mar-2005 13:09
On this sunday it is important to speak a tongue of peace. After watching the news today, it is apparent that certain parts of the world are not quite in the mood themselves. Russia must surely look forward to bringing peace in an honourable way. To be able to set an example that she is not a nation that can only fight to invite with her own people, but one which also has the sense and understanding to be able to maintain a free and democratic state. The world has seen enough blood and tears recently, and the end result has been quite simply a waste. In every sense of the word. If you bow to your leaders, and hang on every word they say, then you might as well become a politician and earn some credit for your troubles. If you think war is justified, then what are you doing on a forum???? Go out there and fight!!! You will soon learn.. So lets hope to a brighter future of love, and please, please try to ignore America..

Vloddy		27-Mar-2005 10:48
Yeaaah, Guest I agree with you SAY IS TRUE. But many here do not understand the situation well. They do not understand that violence can only bring more violence, still many in Russia understand, and even Chechens too. If you know not truth, like other peoples, they know nothing of Chechnya or Russia or Latvia, then you are fucking stupid.. Real problem is not Russia or Chechnya.. R-E-A-L PROBLEM IS P-O-O-L-A-N-D AND U-S-A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest		27-Mar-2005 10:37
CHECHNYA-MAKE LOVE NOT WAR CHECHNYA-MAKE LOVE NOT WAR CHECHNYA-MAKE LOVE NOT WAR CHECHNYA-MAKE LOVE NOT WAR CHECHNYA-MAKE LOVE NOT WAR

Vloddy		27-Mar-2005 10:35
YEEEEAAAAH... Russia have underestimated. Look here people: Latvia destroying Russification, sending home, Muslim Tatars getting power in Ukraine, all Middleeast getting ready for war, Kyrgstan getting ready for fundamentalism, Georgia growing strong, all central asia: Kazak, Uzbek starting to go crazy now. Turkey mass protests - possibility of ottoman resurgence, Germany and France getting ready to take on all world, ALL IS CHANGING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ..and I know there is one part of the world I would not want to be in right now!

Jacek		24-Mar-2005 22:18
You, people in whole fucking west world dont have any idea what is a war, THE war, real war that takes u family so dont give your stupid ideas about chechenya. Putin , russia and soviet, fucking army will be over soon. They killed the last person who can keep this country in peace, now THE war will start.

Jacek		24-Mar-2005 22:15
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Starr		18-Mar-2005 10:56
Dear Igor, May I make a personal request that you please keep this gallery open? The photos are of excellent quality, and I for one think this is the best page of its kind. CHECHNYA-MAKE LOVE NOT WAR

SKB		17-Mar-2005 12:02
Morbidly interesting gallerys, an insight into war, and a dirty medium sized war in the shadows.

igor01		15-Mar-2005 16:37
OK people, I didn't post this gallery and allow visitor comments to see this turn into another militaryphotos.com where hormones rage and intellectual discussion has long been replaced by "oh noes, j00 suxx0rz". Please put away those sheisse-launchers, try to understand that real war and suffering that comes with it is nothing like Counterstrike or whatever games you play when not visiting here to share your profound insights on geopolitical affairs. Please show some respect and mutual restraint or take your "whose is bigger" discussions elsewhere, I don't have the time to moderate this gallery, if this idiocy continues unabated, I'll consider nuking the forum altogether. Regards Igor01

kamboras		15-Mar-2005 10:48
Za du�o w�dki , od zbyt wielu pokole� i st�d mamy taki poziom "dyskusji". Ju� tu nie zajrz�, wystarczy mi tej rosyjskiej kurtuazji.

Guest		15-Mar-2005 05:34
Hey Polish fuckers better shut the fuck up before we NUKE your asslicking country. You can even support your army the fucking americans are doing for you, your country is nothing and you are too close to our border you will be first one to get wiped out when war breaks out, even your master the americans wont help you. so better stfu about Russia you dirty scum you have nothing to show.

GOOD OMOH DEAD OMOH		12-Mar-2005 22:02
Omoh jak walczysz w czeczeni to zycze ci z calego serca abys dostal sie do czeczenskiej niewoli i powoli umieral!!!GOOD OMOH DEAD OMOH !!! ALLAH AKBARR !!! FREEDOM FOR CHECHENYA,DOWN WITH THE RUSSIAN OCCUPATION !!!!

kamboras		11-Mar-2005 11:51
Czeczenia nie jest moim krajem. Ta wojna nie toczy si� w moim kraju. To prawda. Ale nie dziw si� �e kibicuj� Czecze�com. Nie tak odleg�y jest czas gdy w takim samym po�o�eniu by�a Polska. Doskonale rozumiemy co prze�ywaj� ci ludzie. I tak samo jak nam nikt nie pom�g�, im te� nikt nie pomo�e. To pewne - cieszysz si� ? Ale �wiat jest ma�y, i obrazy waszej wojny docieraj� do nas, i kurna strasz� moje dzieci. W ten spos�b wasza wojna staje si� i moj�. Rosjan wychowuj� Rosjanie, i ucz� ich jak by� Rosjaninem. OK, rozumiem �e nie b�d� Ci opowiada� o historii innych nacji. Nie chcia�em Ci dokucza� moim historycznym "wyk�adem" tylko zauwa�, to co robili Rosjanie z pokolenia Twoich dziadk�w odbija si� na dzisiejszym odbiorze Rosjan przez moje pokolenie. To co dzi� robi� Rosjanie w Czeczenii ( a mo�e i Ty ) b�dzie mia�o odd�wi�k w przysz�o�ci.

Chetnik		10-Mar-2005 22:40
all cathlics are low life garbage!!

OMOH		10-Mar-2005 22:18
Suck my ass snitch, FUCK POLAND=POO-LAND, FUCK ALL SNITCHES!!! What is your fucking problem??? Are Chechnya in your country???? NO!!! Are this war your's??? NO!!!! So stop muzzle!!!!

Strzelaj�cy_z_napleta		09-Mar-2005 13:53
Omoh if you want suck polisch dick,come to my boy come and die :)

acid_junkies		09-Mar-2005 13:45
omoh i kill your mother and i kill all russian bitches ... fuck you mutherfucker omoh you fucking chicken you fucking idiot

kamboras		08-Mar-2005 14:16
przypadkiem tu trafilem, OMON - az milo widzie� jak sie wsciekasz to dlatego ze przyczynilismy sie do rozmontowania sovieckiego imperium ? Czlowiek honoru czyni co musi uczynic, ale nie wypiera sie tego. A rosjanie kiedy sie przyznali do mordu polskich wojskowych w Katyniu ? Ze strachu ? Przed kim ? Po prostu cale soviety byly oparte na klamstwie, upodleniu ludzi, grabiezy. Bez nowych podbojow zawalilo sie wszystko, mieliscie gospodarke oparta na lupieniu wszystkich wokol. A my, Polacy, zatrzymalismy was nie puscilismy na zachod. Troche szkoda ze dzis europa nie pamieta co jej grozilo. A faktem jest ze nas zdradzili w 1945 i zostawili na pastwe bandytom. Dla nas II Wojna Swiatowa nie skonczyla sie w 1945 - tylko zmienil sie okupant. Co dzis robicie w Czeczeni ? Rabujecie, mordujecie, i nie mow ze walczycie z terrorystami :/ wy tez nie jestescie rycerzami, i to wy zaczeliscie. Pomnij, kazda potega przemija. Po was nie zostana nawet piekne legendy. Sami chcecie zapomniec o swoich "dokonaniach".

OMOH		01-Mar-2005 13:35
Poland the chicken NATION, if are soviet the POWER, was poland the asskisser of russian!!! Is USA the ""POWER"" so poland kiss the ass of USA!! Fucking chicken!!!! And where ist the army of poland??? In Iraq the fucking asskisser, fucking slave!!! Poland, a little piece of SHIT on the world MAP!!! Hitler fuck you land!! All fucked your land!! What ist Poland??? Poo - Land!!! Fucker!!! All snitches only! Fucking chicken!! Nobody need you or Poland, but wait... mhhh however somebody must eat the shit!!! And Poland is perfeckt for it!!!

His Infernal Majesty		28-Feb-2005 14:51
"��" �� 10 �� ! D' YOU NEED ANY COMMENTS?

POLAND_MAN		27-Feb-2005 21:42
FUCK OMOH !!!! POLAND IS THE BEST,RUSSIAN IS MURDER PEOPLE OF CHECHENYA,FUCKIN OMOH AND FUCK RUSSIAN ARMY !!!! PUTIN AND ALL RUSSIAN ARMY IS FUCKIN MUTHERFUCKER !!!! FUCKIN OMOH LOOK TO----> WWW.KAVKAZ.CENTER.ORG/VIDEO CHECHEN ARMY IS WINNER in RUSSIAN FUCKIN ARMY :) FUCK OF OMOH !!!!!

CM		23-Feb-2005 17:26
..and why bother urself with chechnya, snitch!!!!???? what about Dagestan?? is it because you want to keep quiet about the oil-pipeline??? many poor peoples died in dagestan too, but u never feel sorry for them. problem with all Caucasus is that there are too many snitches like you!!! helping chechens, and chechen snitches who help Omon and kremlin!!!! U ARE ALL SNITCHES TAKING SNITCH MONEY FROM EACH OTHER!!!!! EVEN BASAYEV WAS A KGB SNITCH!!!!!!!!!! LOOK AT YOURSELVES SNITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CM		23-Feb-2005 17:18
OMOH No!! U look at yourself there, snitch!!!! Russian forces are losing power now, anti-Putin feeling is growing. You will see that more russian forces were ambushed again like always.. when will you ever learn?? They cannot, and will not be defeated. The war will continue for ever and it is poor russian peoples who are dying because of this too. let the military forces continue their inadequacy and u will find many more people just like your best friend. you say you are upset about him, then why do you want another one of them to go as well???

Guest		20-Feb-2005 16:49
FREE THE CHECHNYA!!! FREE ALL CAUCASUS!!! FREE UCRAINA!!!

Guest		20-Feb-2005 16:45
OMOH Come on the last time I was here at the gallery you had gotten over the Chechnya situation. Try breathing deeply, and make your way over to the Caucasus. You might be surprised that they dont kill you.

OMOH		20-Feb-2005 07:47
Fuck you self, snitch! If the children are terrorists, and they shoot up russian soldiers! So OMOH(Special Force) must kill the fucking terrorists. And most of chechen people, don't like to work, they like WAR! And if you think " Freedom for Chechnya" ok, it's your mind, but I think the chechens are be of another opinion, then you. !!!FIRST THINK, THEN WRITE!!!

FUCK OMON		19-Feb-2005 22:41
FREEDOM FOR CHECHENYA !!!!!!!! ,FUCK OMON.OMON IS KILLED KINDER CHECHENYA!!!!!!!!!!

Sanya OMOH		17-Feb-2005 13:58
Yeaahh, WODKA & SALO.... very good;)))))

Bourbaki		15-Feb-2005 22:26
"Just a minute! Daugavpils has never been a part of Belarus, I guess." And Kosovo has never been part of Albania. The analogy I was trying to make is that Belarussians are bloodthirsty, ruthless expansionists driven by religious zealotry (I should know, one half of my family is from there), but uh, as you realize it's a joke. :) The only thing they're good at is sitting around, drinking vodka and eating salo.

XPEH BAM		14-Feb-2005 18:59
>Bourbaki In fact, the costs of flat rents in Latvia started to rise later, about 1993-1994. I do not remember when excatly, but special law was issued to protect actual tenants (law prescribed that tenants can not be thrown of flats if they have moved in before 1991 and if they are able to pay rent). In my opinion, Your impression could be formed on the basis of lose of privilegies from Soviet-side WW2 veterans, but I can be wrong. And if we speak about houses and flats in the Center of Riga, the costs now are arised fantasticaly - only bussinesmen or other people from elite can afford to live in the Center of Riga... however there is the last chance to find a cheaper solution by finding a non-renovated flat, inhabited communally (комунальная квартира) :)) Agree with statement about chechens, but I just tried to speak `politcorectly` :))))) Just a minute! Daugavpils has never been a part of Belarus, I guess. And in the 1939 Latvia hadn't a border with Belarus - in that place, where is Belarus now, was Poland.

Bourbaki		13-Feb-2005 09:00
XPEH BAM: "Guest" sounds like what we in the West call a white supremacist. Ignore him. About 1991 - I didn't say anything was terrible, on the contrary I meant that everything seemed more or less normal (who cares if the SU fell apart? We were already four (or maybe five?) years into "perestroika" at that point), but if you paid attention you got a bad feeling. In Chechnya things didn't start out bad either, and that was in 1991 too. Obviously there was the ethnic factor, and people were pressured/threatened to leave their property and apartments. In Latvia this was legalized by restitution of property to their pre-Soviet owners or their descendants, which also didn't depend on ethnicity (but I and many other ex-Latvians still have the impression that this affected the non-Latvian population most, and personally I've never met an ethnic Latvian that lost his/her property), and had nothing to do with expensive rent. If anything, this made property prices drop to ridiculous levels - I know most people who tried found it very difficult to sell their apartments, and most of these were in the center or Riga! (my father, as an Afghan veteran, received a small plot of land for a dacha literally months before the SU broke up - he didn't even bother trying to sell it, just left the deed with a friend so he could use it as a potato garden). The difference is that by 1993 Chechens were openly killing Russians (and each other) in the streets, whereas Latvians were just starting with the restitution business, and that is about as bad as it got. I think you are right to attribute this to "cold blood" and Christianization, or to put it more simply, as we say Latvians are "normal people." But things could have become much worse, and I think you know that a tiny little thing could have (and I am afraid it is true today too) set off something like Yugoslavia (I could just picture Belorussia trying to grab Daugavpils back then). Which ties back to NATO - in case of war, you can be sure that all foreign embassies in Riga will be bombed thoroughly and within a meter of precision with million dollar laser-guided bombs. :)

XPEH BAM		12-Feb-2005 23:51
>guest Sorry, I did not understood, what was the wrong thing I said or did? :/ >Bourbaki I will write in English and make this conversation available for other people. Disagree with You about 1991 in Latvia - I think, it wasn't so teriffic. Yes, there was ethnic stress, but in my opinion, both ethnic groups in general managed to overcome it. What relates to problem of denationalized flats, it is rather on social than on ethnic bases - people was ejected out of the flats not because of ethinicity, but due to incapatibility to pay the sudden arise of rent, both Latvians and Russians. Besides, most of houses in the prestige areas are owned by non-latvians... About NATO - I do not believe the NATO will perform obligations to defend Baltic states in the case of military agression of Russia. I am sure, that `our new strategic partners`, that is, NATO and West as such will trade us again like that already happened in 1939, when the pact of Molotov-Ribbentrop was signed :(( And West will trade us when they will need something of somewhat from Russia...

Sanya-> OMOH		12-Feb-2005 20:56
Prawda goworish, powerj ya snayu kak strashna woina! I ya nekomu ne shilayu yeyo posnat. A wot kto tam Latish ili russkiy, mne eto newashno, dlya menya wse ludi odinakowi. Tolko wot DUHI ili yesho kokiyenibud krowoshadniye twari.. wot eto dlya mena hushe swerey!!! Y ya neschilay naschemu potomstwu woobshe nikakoi woini. Wso shto ya sdelal na etoi woine, ya neshaleyu... krome odnowo, ya schaleyu pogibshih soldat, moih drusey, ot predatilstwa shadnih na dengi urodow!!! otkuda bi oni nebili, is rossii ili pribaltiki!

Bourbaki		12-Feb-2005 07:57
Izvinite za "Russklish", net Russkoy klaviaturi. Ochen interesnaya discussia. Ya tozhe iz Latvii, v Rige rodilsya, no ne Latish (po krayney mere ne etnicheskiy; uehal ot tudo eshe ne douchivshi Latishskiy v shkole i passport prishlos dostovat Russkiy). Nedavno pointeresovalsya istoriey Chechenskogo conflicta, I mne po nastoyashimu stalo strashno, kogda ya vspomnil chto togda v Latvii tvorilos I kak vse eto pohozhe. Horosho chto tak udachno vse proshlo. U mena otec vse chuel, eshe v 91om nachal k voennim na baze pridruzhivaca, podpolno dostovat oruzhie, mena uchit kak polzovatsa. Ya togda eshe maliy bil, ne ponemal. A seychas strashno vspominat. Kvartira u nas bila staraya, nashelsya potomok originalnogo vladelca. No drugim bivalo huzhe. Nedavno vstretil muzhika, on togda v flote sluzhil. Emu i ego semye prosto skazali "daem vam dve sutki shtobi otsuda smitsa," vot i vse. No vse ravno u menya segodnya chuvsto chto opastnost echo v peredi. Ludyi ne zabivayut, da ktomu zhe Latishkie politiki dazhe segodnya ne terayit shansi ustroit skandal. A eshe vse tri respubliki srazo vstupili v NATO. Esli, ne day bog, budit voyna, oni konechno ee nazovut voynoy mezhdu gosudarstvami, no eto voyna budet grazhdanskaya, po-strashnee Chechni. A mne chto delat? U menya rodstveniki v Latvii i Russko-yazichnie i Latishi, i ya vrode tam rodilsa i vospitan. A vot OMOHy pro Litovskuyu naemnicu ya tochno veryu. Oni tam Chechenov obozhali. V Vilniuse ploshad nazvana "Dudaevskoy," sa schet togo chto kogda on voiskami tam komandoval otkozalsya vipolnyat prikaz o razgrome nacionalistov. Tam eshe kazhetsa ego vdova zhivet. I do Beslana tam bili servera Udugovskogo "Kavkaz Center."

guest		11-Feb-2005 22:07
TO LATVIAN: WHY DON'T YOU GO AND STAND FOR YOUR OWN LAND INSTEAD OF MAKING SOME SORT OF EPHEMERIC "BROTHERS" WITH HELL KNOWS WHAT. YOU HAVE TO REALISE (IF YOU HAVEN'T YET) THAT IT IS BETTER FOR ALL EUROPEANS TO STAND AS ONE FAMILY INSTEAD OF BETRAYING EACH OTHER. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT LATVIANS ARE GOOD AT: IF NOT GERMANS OR SWEDES THEN RUSSIANS. JUST BE INDEPENDENT, BE LATVIAN, BE EUROPEAN AND BE A WHITE MAN. STOP POINTING YOUR GUN AT ANOTHER WHITE MAN. STOP LOOKING A MISERABLE BETRAYER OF YOUR TRUE BROTHERS. NO-ONE WILL EVER RESPECT YOU FOR THAT, EVEN CHECHENS - BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT {{{PRIDE}}} IS! STUDY HISTORY AND FIND FOR YOURSELF THAT A GOOD PART OF WESTERN RUSSIANS AND BYELORUSSIANS ARE BLOODWISE THE SAME AS BALTS. WOULD YOU GO AND KILL YOUR FRIEND ANDRIS NEXT DOOR?

XPEH BAM		10-Feb-2005 17:49
Латыш я, латыш. Про кремлевских чиновников Ты конечно прав. Точно также, как в свое время режим Дудаева сделал все, чтобы спровоцыровать Россию навести там `конституциональный порядок`, и Кремль сделал все, чтобы усуглубить этот конфликт...

Sanya		06-Feb-2005 17:39
Ya tebe mogu tochno skasat chto duhi bilis ne sa swobodu, a sa dengi, i ti praw chto eto stalo tolka togda ponyatno, kogda nachelas wtoraya woina. Ih ne ochen interesuyet swoboda, kak drugih nekotorih proshiwayushih w chechne grashdan, kotoriye imeno hotyat tolka swobodu, a ne woinu. I yesho, kogda ya bil w chechne, ya ushasno nenawidel wseh chechenzow, i drugih kotoriye pomogali im. No wot tolko kogda ya wernulsya ot tuda, ya ponyal kto bili nashi nastoyashiye wragi, eto bili nekotoriye russkiye oficeri, kotoriye predali nas, i wso is sa deneg! I ya ponel chto ne chechenzi nash wrag, a rossiyskiye diplomati, kotoriye sidyat kupayas w dengah, na koshenom kresle, nabiwaya swoi shiwoti delikatessami i sopiwaya shampanskim. Kogda w eto wremya gibnut ludi, na toi woine gde wsyakaya twar dengi na chelowechskoi krowi delayet. Te kto sedit w kremle, dashe nepredstowlaya chto takoye woina, te komu nechewo nesnchit chyata shisn. Wot sa shto slo berot! I mne ochen shalko teh materey, kotorye poteryli swoih sinowey na etoy woine! A ti yesli ne russkiy, togda kto?

XPEH BAM		05-Feb-2005 07:59
Да понятно, что при таких обстаятельств точно выяснения происхождения девчонки не приоритет. Хотя, как я уже упомнянул, вряд ли МИД РФ упустил бы такуя возможность наехать на Прибалтику - мол, наемников к духам посилаете, сволочи! Как-то не далюбливают они нас, и мы их тоже - вечная напряженка пока получается... К стате, во время Первой войны почти все прибалты (и я в том числе) были на стороне духов. Во-первих, они якобы автоматически являлись нашыми братями по судьбе как выходцы из СССР и из влияния России (и наша оффициальная политика после выхода из СССР всегда была про-западная, а Запад тоже не очень любит Россию), во-вторых, духи выиграли информационную войну, так как оффициальной информации из Российской стороны никто по прирвичке не верил. Но в течении времени события в Будьеновске, Первомайске и Беслане опровергнули образ великодушных и правдивих борцов за свободу, и многие (но не все) поняли, что информация пропаганды со стороны духов не менее лжыва, чем оффициальная российскя... Между прочем, я не русский. Вот так вот.

Sanya		03-Feb-2005 19:50
Ne ya sechyas tochno ne pripomnu, tak kak ya bil ranen i leshal pri silnoi boli na raskladushke. No pozani goworili chto chtoto pro litwu posli etgo slucheya, i pro eto dewchonku, i mne goworili chto ona otkudato ot tuda, s pribaltiki. A drug moi goworil chto ona s wilnusa, no tak usch tochna ya nesnayu, on esho goworil chto oni s pazanami u neo kakiyeto dokumenti nashli, otkudo powidemosti i wsyali chto ona is letwi. A menya eto ochen i ne interisowalo, tak kak ya woperwich bil ranen, a wowtorich mne yescho pochti god ostawalos slushit, i ya dumayu ti moshesh sibe predstawit, chto u menya yescho drugiy sloshnosti bili, kak usnawat kto ona i otkuda, ili kto yeyo tochno ubil. Mne i bes etowo teshelo bilo, woina eto tesholaya rabota. dawai shdu otweta

XPEH BAM		03-Feb-2005 18:36
А как вы определили, что эта девка была именно из Литвы - она сама призналась или при ней нашли пасспорт гражданки или постоянной жительницы Литвы? А то мне как-то не верится, что МИД РФ упустил бы такую подъёбку против Литвы...

Sanya		01-Feb-2005 22:09
@ XPEH BAM---> Ysweni poputalsya ya na ukraine. Ona otkudota is pribaltiki bila mne kaschetza is wilnusa, litwa, kaschetza, ladno schjas to4na usche nepripomnu. shestliwa:)

XPEH BAM		31-Jan-2005 18:10
OMOH! Спасибо за добрие слова! Только ещё маленькое уточнение: Украина - это не Прибалтика, у них совсем другое море! :)) Счастливо Тебе тоже, бывший сержант ВДВ!

OMOH		30-Jan-2005 03:05
@ XPEH BAM---> Ya is rossii, gorod Sochi;) woewal w chechne 2 goda, serschant WDW, a se4as schiwu w germanii. Eto horoscho koda est ludi kotorie, chtoto snaut o woine w chechne! Meschdu prochem bil ranen sniperom is pribaltiki, is ukraini dewuschka molodaya, krasiwaya no russkih dlya chechenow ubiwal! yeyo ubili pazani potom, schalko mne yeyo bilo, wedj molodaya takaya sowsem.. nu ladno, spasibo tebe sa twoi komentar! schestliwa tebe;)

XPEH BAM		28-Jan-2005 08:05
- I come from region which russians call `Pribaltika` (Baltic in English). To be more precise, from Republic of Latvia. - The president of Chechnya, Dzhohar (Djohar?) Dudayev served in Armed Forces of Soviet Union deployed in Estonia, Pribaltic Military District (Pribaltiyskiy Voyenniy Okrug) before he returned to his native land. He retired AF of USSR in 1991, and when he became a president of Chechnya, he had a full-blooded political support from the governments and considerable part of the population of the Baltic states. - During the first Chechen War, 1994-1996, russian sources claimed the mercenaries (so called `white pantyhoses`, female snipers) from Baltic states also were fighting in the side of chechen rebels, however there are no evidences confirming this statement. Nevertheless, the mercenaries/volunteers from Ukraine (depending of side of information source) fought in that war. - I have read a lot. The chechen problem is interesting for me, because the beginning of 90ies could bring a similar scenario to my country. Only some factors (cold blood, greater influence of values of Renessance and Christianity, more the 700 years under various occupatants, which had consequently destroyed the wild and rebellious part or gene of population), different from those in Chechnya allowed us to avoid a disaster like that.

OMOH		27-Jan-2005 15:29
@ XPEH BAM---> Yes, very good:) you know very much about chechnya war! It's very very good, and it is real, it's true! Now where you come from???

XPEH BAM		27-Jan-2005 14:28
Problem is much deeper than `Chechen Terrorists` or `Russian Murderers`. At first, the North Caucasus was one of the last territories, which was incorporated into Russian Impery, and the inhabitants of mountains, chechens, still are primitive and un-civilised nation due to fact, the territory they are living in was not influenced with ideas of Renesance and Christianity, which have influenced most part or Europe for long time. Because of this primitivism, chechens are still `wild` nation, even understanding of islam they have their own, not like `standard` islam, common ir arab societies. At second, there are considerable number of russians living in the territory of Chechnya for a couple hundreds or years (from 18th Century). Relationships between these two etnicities always have been sharp and bloody - chechens due to their nomad style of life robbed russians, which preferred farming; russians asked for help the nearest governor, who replied chechens with war... At third, the beginning of modern chechen war could be find also with collapse of Soviet Union and movements of national riddance, observed in former USSR in the beginning of 90ies. And Yeltsin gave an independence to all of these movement (Baltic States, Ukraine, Moldova, Caucasus States...) to get the support from all these just made countries (Later he took from Chechnya back). In the 1992 the Russian Army was withdrawn from Chechnya (leaving almost all weapons) and, in fact, the genocyde against russians started. Sources claims about 20 000 russians were killed till war in 1994, and about 200 000 were pressed to leave their home. The level of crime arise in the fantastic level due to the spread of huge amount of weapons un national distinctions. The invasion of Russian Army in end of 1994 was just a logical consequence to protect the people of russian nationality, and, also the revenge. Since that things have gone even worse (Budyonovsk, Kizlyar, Beslan). Sorry for huge amount of text! :/

Guest		21-Jan-2005 22:32
Just think. Even though Germany and Russia were at war for a long time during WW2, and there is no love lost between them, there was still one thing they both agreed on. The destruction of Poland!!

OMOH		19-Jan-2005 22:27
Yeahhh, thats right;) Poland is nothing! Only a ass-kisser!!!! Only a slave of America!!! POLAND --> the chicken NATION! Bye ASS-KISSER:D

Guest		19-Jan-2005 02:35
Poland you remain America's only friend. America couldnt even point you out on a map! Come to think of it, neither could the rest of the world!! Poo-land has always been an insignificant shit-pit in the world, which is why America convinces shit Poles so easily. Shits tend to believe anything. And Polish shits ALWAYS run and hide at the first sign of trouble. Its a relationship made of shit and sealed with shit. Involving a European country which, lets face it, has always just been 'shit'. Poland; ALWAYS the bain of Europe!!! They dont call it Pooland for nothing!!!

PolishObserver		11-Jan-2005 20:59
Napisze po polsku bo moze zrozumiecie wy ruskie kozaczki, jestescie tacy cwani dopoki nie zobaczycie czeczena sam na sam w 4 oczy, ciekawe jak wtedy byscie sie zachowali matkojebcy???, a tak wogle zachowujecie sie tak jakbyscie cie chcieli wojny wschody zachodem?? Czas pokaze co bedzie Czy widziliscie sie kiedys prawdziwa wojne?? Nic nie widzieliscie, nawet nie wachaliscie prochu fagasy, a wypisujecie tutaj takie glupoty, a tak naprawde nie wygraliscie 2 wojny swiatowej, poczytajce waszego historyka Suworowa to moze to zrozumiecie cwele... MAY GOD BLESS THE AMERICA N POLAND

Guest		09-Jan-2005 13:36
if you think you can stop a bullet, by all means, stand in front of a firing rifle

Guest		08-Jan-2005 19:25
THOSE WHO CAN'T THINK, FIGHT.

Guest		04-Jan-2005 03:57
Gentlemen. I came back to this site to see the pictures of the terrible war. It reminds me of how badly man can treat his fellow man. The worst part of this whole thing is that there are young people, who are then trained as soldiers, who are then sent to a place they know nothing about, and are told to survive. And to survive means to kill. Ask yourself, who gains from this madness? Think of the anger you would have if you, your brother, or father were sent to this place. What is in Chechnya that causes people to die? Why would a man in Moscow care about poor people in the middle of nowhere? There is one and only one answer. In Chechnya, anyone can dig a hole as shallow as 4 feet deep and strike raw crude oil. Anyone in Chechnya can take this oil and ferment it into fuel to power machinery, etc. Now, look at the war in Iraq. Why would a man in Washington attack nation led by a dictator that was once good friend's with his own father who was head of the CIA? Of course, oil. My friends, we are witnessing the largest grab of oil in our life time. We are lied to by the politicians who say we fight for peace. As an old saying once said "Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity." We are told to fight and die for reasons that satisfy our desire to do good. In Iraq, soldiers are told they are fighting for the freedom and democracy of the people. In Chechnya, the media speaks of the "terrorists" that are a threat to peace and must be killed, whatever the cost, and of course, poor Russian soldiers do the killing. They are killing for peace. My friends, I am not a wise old man who pretends to know all the answers. I do know a little about history. History shows that wars are fought by the poor and the spoils of war go to the rich. Maybe this will always be the way of the world, but we do not have to be one of their killers or the one killed. There is an answer. Education. Learn as I have tried to learn. Never hate blindly lest you be hated. Question authority. Question politicians, question religion, question everything. Remember life is too short to hate.

Guest		03-Jan-2005 01:04
OMOH NOW I AM UNDERSTANDING YOU. U UNDERSTAND URSELF THE REAL SITUATION. SNITCHES ON BOTH SIDES MADE CONFLICT GO ON LONGER THAN NEEDED..INNOCENT GOT CAUGHT UP. I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRIEND, U SAW RUSSIAN CRIMES TOO BUT MORE CONFLICT MAKES MORE SNITCHES...... DO NOT WORRY ABOUT USA............ USA WARRING SAME COUNTRY 2 TIMES IN ONLY FEW YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CHECHNYA NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMOH		02-Jan-2005 23:04
IT'S GOOD... YES IT'S TRUE, WHAT YOU SAY. AND I'M SORRY THEN I COULD YOU AMERICAN. I LIVE IN GERMANY, BUT I'M RUSSIAN! 4 YEARS AGO I WAS IN CHECHNYA AS RUSSIAN SOLDER. I SAW WHEN MY FRIENDS DEAD, I SAW RUSSIAN ARMY CRIMES IN CHECHNYA. I SAW TOO MUCH!!! I'M 23 YEARS OLD, SO I WAS IN CHECHNYA, I WAS A BOY NOT A MEN, IT WAS TO MUCH FOR ME, BECAUSE I WAS VERY YOUNG FOR WAR, A VERY HARD WAR.. BELEAVE ME! BUT WHEN YOU SEE HOW YOUR FRIEND DIE, SO YOU HATE ALL CHECHENS, BUT IT'S WRONG! AND MANY RUSSIAN ( MAFIA) SOLDERS, SUPPORT THE TERRORISTS IN CHECHNYA! AND THE PAUPER OTHER YOUNG RUSSIAN SOLDER MUST DIE, AND THE POOR CHECHNS NATION, TOO!!! AND THIS BY CHECHNS SELF AND RUSSIAN SNITCHES! THIS IS THE REALITY!!!!!

Guest		02-Jan-2005 19:22
NO OMOH FIRST, I AM NOT USA SHIT SECOND I KNOW THIS CHECHENS HELPED YOU AND FOUGHT AGAINST GERMANS IN WW2 ALONG SIDE U AND HELP KILL GERMANS THEN U SEND CHECHENS TO SIBERIA THEN ARGUMENT STARTS THEN RUSSIA ARMY STRIKES CHECHNYA THEN CHECHNYA STRIKES RUSSIAN ARMY THEN RUSSIAN ARMY RAPES THEN CHECHENS BEHEAD THEN RUSSIAN ARMY STRIKES CHECHNYA HOME THEN CHECHNYA STRIKES RUSSIA HOME ???????? SOUNDS LIKE SCRATCH ON RECORD SOUNDS LIKE CHECHENS STUPID/RUSSIAN ARMY STUPID HONEST WITH U I DONT CARE IF CHECHNYA OR RUSSIA WERE TO BLAME. IF CHECHENYA WAS UR HOME THEN WHY DO U DESTROY IT?????????? WHY ARE U PROUD OF RAPING??????????????????????????? FORGET NOT THAT USA THINK IT IS POWERFUL UNTIL GETTING SMASHED TO PIECES NOW IN IRAQ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FORGET NOT THAT EUROPE IS GETTING STRONGER NOW AND IS THE REAL POWER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS WHAT U MUST REMEMBER. IF CHECHNYA WAR IS REALLY OVER THEN PEACE... IF NOT THEN I HOPE CHECHNYA CONTINUE FOR 100,000 YEARS...

OMOH		02-Jan-2005 16:46
Wait KID. How old are you??? 4 or 5 years old???You know NOTHING about Chechnya and Russia!!! You don't know Putin!! And when I read your messege, so I think you are very stupid! And it's true! So look at your country!! Chechnya is a problem of Russia, not of you or the World, because Chechnya is in Russia and not somewhere in USA or other!!! PS:Then you so cleaver, LOOOOOL!!! THE WAR IN CHECHNYA IS OVER ONE YEAR AGO!!! SO PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMOH		01-Jan-2005 22:56
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL you are some stupid??? Gay comes from WEST not from EAST, lil sucker! !!!WE ARE THE BEST, AND WE HAVE THE POWER!!! !!!EU AND USA ARE NOTHING!!! !!!CCCP!!! !!STALIN!! !FUCK BUSH AND HIS FRIENDS! !!!!!!!!FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!

OMOH		31-Dec-2004 19:39
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No RUSSIANS never LOSE!! Gay snitch!! We win evry war, Russia VS. USA no problem!! We are the POWER!!!! PS: I think your mum is a kangroo, because lock at you self snitch!!!!

SHANE		30-Dec-2004 20:27
OMOH LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL@ U kangaroo!! still 23 million!!!! Not forget it!!! still been in chechnya for 20 years and still take you 100 years to win a war against finland!!!!!!!!!!!

OMOH		30-Dec-2004 15:59
LOOOOOOOOL, @Shane, but Russia wins the WW2!!!! Not forget it!!! Chechens lose, because Russia is to strong for all!!! Lock at Iraq, what doing ^^America? They kill many civilian people, and what need USA???--> Saddam Hussein? No they need OIL!!! America is the fucking murder, not Russia!! And poland, what's to hell the snitches lost in Iraq??? NOTHING!!!! and America, too!!!Because chechnya is in russian country, and Iraq??? It's not in America!! Fucking Americans and fucking Polskas!!

OMOH		30-Dec-2004 15:58
LOOOOOOOOL, @Shane, but Russia wins the WW2!!!! Not forget it!!! Chechens lose, because Russia is to strong for all!!! Lock at Iraq, what doing ^^America? They kill many civilian people, and what need USA???--> Saddam Hussein? No they need OIL!!! America is the fucking murder, not Russia!! And poland, what's to hell the snitches lost in Iraq??? NOTHING!!!! and America, too!!!Because chechnya is in russian country, and Iraq??? It's not in America!! Fucking Americans and fucking Polskas!!

OMOH		30-Dec-2004 15:58
LOOOOOOOOL, @Shane, but Russia wins the WW2!!!! Not forget it!!! Chechens lose, because Russia is to strong for all!!! Lock at Iraq, what doing ^^America? They kill many civilian people, and what need USA???--> Saddam Hussein? No they need OIL!!! America is the fucking murder, not Russia!! And poland, what's to hell the snitches lost in Iraq??? NOTHING!!!! and America, too!!!Because chechnya is in russian country, and Iraq??? It's not in America!! Fucking Americans and fucking Polskas!!

OMOH		30-Dec-2004 15:58
LOOOOOOOOL, @Shane, but Russia wins the WW2!!!! Not forget it!!! Chechens lose, because Russia is to strong for all!!! Lock at Iraq, what doing ^^America? They kill many civilian people, and what need USA???--> Saddam Hussein? No they need OIL!!! America is the fucking murder, not Russia!! And poland, what's to hell the snitches lost in Iraq??? NOTHING!!!! and America, too!!!Because chechnya is in russian country, and Iraq??? It's not in America!! Fucking Americans and fucking Polskas!!

Shane		30-Dec-2004 01:38
Dennis you really are a cock. Germany killed 23 million Russians in 2nd WW. more deaths than any country in history of world-looking like russia got fucked the most by germany-so tie your kangaroo down mate, you guys couldn't win a war against tazmania.

Denis		28-Dec-2004 23:52
Polish, ask your mother if Russian penises are sweet or salt? She knows it, because we f...d you, f...d your country, f...d terrorists and will f...ck everyone who stays on our road. Or you licking chechen's mafia dick's in your dirty warszawa? Hahaha! Clowns of Europe. Polska = dupa smrdiwa.

PolishObserver		24-Dec-2004 21:07
yeah nationalguard yo are right the peace is a most important thing in the world. but some people doesnt understand this... so make peace brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!

PolishObserver		24-Dec-2004 20:58
eheheeh nice!!!!! Rusijaaa-made by murders and communistics hmyy i really like yours chicks yo know they very pretty Your womens works next to the polish highways as car-bitchies n licks dicks everyone who stop the car yo are very nervous little ivan:d!!!!!!!!!

Guest		24-Dec-2004 18:22
AMEN.

nationalguard		24-Dec-2004 16:22
Hello. I want to comment on this war and all wars. War is created by those people who benefit most from it. These people, who we may never see (except for their front people who are called "politicians") know the feelings of all the people involved in their war and they know how to use it to their advantage. If these powerful people know that one side hates another's religion, color of their skin, etc., they will use that to create hate and, eventually, war. As Lenin once said, and forgive me for paraphrasing, "To find the cause of war, find the one's who benefit most from war" (if anyone knows the true words to this phrase, please post it). To those young people who hear of the prejudice and hatred of other peoples for whatever reason, I ask you let go of this anger. This anger was not created by you nor by the young person whom you have never met. Do not allow yourself to be led to the slaughter by the rich and powerful, who's son's will never fight themselves. Today, in my country of the USA, a rich man has created a war that no one in their right mind wants. I was one of those soldiers who joined to escape poverty and to avoid being a burden to his family. Thousands of young and mostly poor will die so that the son's of the wealthy may live luxurious lives. It is up to the young to question what they read and hear. It is up to the young to take the energy within and not use it too kill. It is up to the young to be ready to defend their families from all enemies, foriegn and domestic. I wish you all peace.

OMOH		24-Dec-2004 14:29
Hey Polska kurwa!!!! I shit of Poland, and I know you like to kiss the ass of NATO!!! and the European Union!!! Lil'bitch! look at poland, , and say me what do you see??? POLSKA--> made by gay's and bitches!!!!

PolishOnserver		23-Dec-2004 17:40
All people in my country fucks the ivans or ages!!!!!!

PolishObserver		23-Dec-2004 17:36
Fuck the Putin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Free for Chechenya and Ucraina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest		22-Dec-2004 17:49
To COCKHEAD GUEST BELOW, Chechens will get more of what they deserve?? If they were scared by that threat then they would not still be killing you like lambs to the slaughter whenever you make them angry. Like Afghanistan, Russia takes bite; then chokes. BTW, I agree that maybe 100,000 COULD be overestimated; but who knows for sure. Did you personally bury them? Face it, the world is amazed how a shit-hole can keep on bashing Russia around. If Russia does not stop policy, then Europe will come and break a few Russian heads so that you finally get the message. You should be ashamed. In America they say Groznyy is a holy place, because thanks to them Commies are no more.. I don't agree, I think that Europe should just catch fuckers like you and send them to North Pole with Basayev to argue with polar bears and penguins.

Guest		22-Dec-2004 03:02
To GUEST You are very poorly informed. BBC (along with CNN) is nothing but a spin factory that spews out dubious agenda of your criminal government. Let me enlighten you: there were never 100,000 dead albanians in Kosovo. It was all lies. You've been duped like most of "intelligent people" of many "nationalities". And BBC keeps spinning to dimwitted. Chechens got what they deserved and will get more unless they accept the civilised ways.

Guest		21-Dec-2004 02:15
OMON You are so stupid, dude. Your whole country could not pacify a shit hole like Chechnya for a decade. You fuckers should be ashamed. Chechnya's like the size of Hawaii, Your like the size of Russia. Abd they still kicked your ass.

OMON		19-Dec-2004 20:42
I shit on BBC and of USA or Nato! And you don't know abot anything!!! But I was in Chechnya, and I know what the fucking terrorists chechens are!!! My mind is: KILL THEM ALL!!!

Guest		17-Dec-2004 23:40
ra5baba the bbc is recognized the world over as the most unbiased news-channel by many nationalites. i think most intelligent people would rather believe them than Russian propaganda. THE FACT IS THAT RUSSIA HAS COMMITTED RAPE AND TORTURE TO CHECHENS!! until Russia actually starts to rebuild Groznyy and Chechnya, and forge honest links, they will not succeed.. What troubles Russia the most is that Chechens aren't scared of them. oh, and nobody disputes the dispicable tradegy against Kosovan Albanians.. But this is a site about Chechnya..

ra5baba		17-Dec-2004 19:30
BBC as the source of objective truth? Hmmm, remember 100,000 dead Kosovo albanians? And please, it's SEPARATE, not seperete you dumbfuck

Mr. Justice		05-Dec-2004 17:16
Whoever made this website is a fucking idiot who dosen't know how to seperate truth from lies. Russian have committed many acts of terrorism in chechnya. look it up on BBC you dumb fuck

Guest		01-Dec-2004 11:36
I think the war in Chechnya is absolutely pointless and that 99% of it is Russia�s fault. For those of you that think Chechens are "evil" all I could say is there are crazy and insane individuals on both sides (more so on the Russian side). It is ignorant to think that just because there is more video evidence of Chechens murdering some poor 18 year old Russian soldiers doesn�t mean the Russians don�t do the same. The Chechens video tape their killings because they need proof to receive funds from the rich Arabs in support of the war. While the Russians very rarely tape their murders and torturing they do it on a far more often! First of all, it is estimated that over 200,000 Chechen civilians were killed in the last 10 years....how many Russian? (A LOT less than that) Second, there have been hundreds of investigations into human rights abuses by Russian forces and all of them found hard evidence of torture, mutilations, rape and what ever other horrible crimes one can come up with. Here is a link to where you can actually find some rare video of human rights abuses by Russians: http://www.kavkaz.org.uk/eng/video/ The video entitled "Evidence of War Crimes" is a video made by Chechen civilians that dug up their relatives in a mass grave after the Russian took them away and murdered them. Many of the victims have their throats cut, skin pealed, mutilated and most have their hands tied behind their backs. The other video "Video fact � Face of Russism" I have actually seen in a documentary. In the documentary the explanation for the video was that these were prisoners taken by elite Russian forces, the guys that are handling the prisoners are regular forces (I guess the elite soldiers handed them over to the regulars) Anyway in the video you can see that most of the prisoners are dead, and most of the dead do NOT have any bullet holes in them which is evidence that they were beaten to death, other prisoners are half dead and keep collapsing, some have their ears cut off. The ones that can still move are made to carry the tens dead and beaten bodies into a pile. Of course these are very very rare videos but just because few of them exist doesn�t mean the Russian side doesn�t commit any atrocities, in fact it commits most of them! And just because there is no video of the Russian forces beating all of those prisoners to death and cutting of their ears doesn�t make it any less brutal than Chechens cutting off fingers and slitting throats. The Russian forces have a very strong reputation of being extremely brutal and barbaric, they just don�t advertise it. If they did Mr.Putin would be in a lot of trouble. My father served in the soviet-afghan war, almost all of the horror stories he ever told me involved Russian soldiers mutilating afghans and tarring them apart with armored personnel carriers when they are still alive. My father told me that the war turned most of the people (soldiers) around him into vicious animals that only wanted to kill, take revenge, murder and see blood. And the worst part is that the generals encouraged these atrocities. I am 100% sure that the same thing goes on in Chechnya, and I am sure that even the president of Russia is in favor of murdering Chechen civilians. So for those of you that are stupid and ignorant and think that just because there are more videos of Chechens committing crimes of war than Russians, that it must be the same thing in real life. Why don�t you do a google search of human rights violations in Chechnya or Russian soldiers abducting civilians. I have read many books on the Chechen wars, and have studied the subject out of my own interest for several years. So everything I say is not an opinion, it can be proven by reading books watching documentaries and doing your own research. Oh and in case you were wondering, I am Russian and proud of it. Just because I am against a war that has killed thousands of Russian soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Chechens doesn�t make me any less patriotic that any other Russian that is on this website. Just try telling all of the people that have lost their loved ones to this stupid war that the Chechens are really "terrorists" and the war is just. Oh, and another thing. The Chechen rebels have suffered A LOT more casualties in the Chechen war than the Russians. I can�t understand how anyone could think differently. Most of the Russian casualties are 18 year old conscripts straight out of high school. Most of the Chechen rebels are farmers just like you see in the video above. Even the best of the Chechen rebels are no match for Russian special units, because the Russian special units are well trained, well equipped and motivated and far more professional than the best of the Chechens. The only Russians the Chechens ever kill is 18 year old Russian conscripts who are poorly equipped, trained and motivated. If you watch any documentary about the wars in Chechnya (especially the 2nd one) you will clearly understand and see what I am talking about. It is just like Iraq, while there have been more than 1,000 Americans killed already and most of those are well trained marines. There is no statistics for the number of rebels killed. It is a 99% certainty that there is far more rebel casualties in the Chechen war than there are Russian casualties, especially elite Russian casualties. You can look this up in books to.

Alexeis Zemanova		30-Oct-2004 19:25
Ivan, i seem to recall a time(ooh about 10 years ago) when america said all russians were evil and communist leaders(irrespective of their actual secular beliefs)need to be wiped out! and that the afghans(remember them?) were freedom fighters fighting for democracy against evil russian oppressors.(and they provided them with more guns than they're arms could carry). these are the facts, like them or not. common sense should tell you that you are allowing hype borne out of american insecurity to influence your mind-set. we both know that the extremeists objective is not to turn russia into a training camp..but many russians now like to say such things to stir up hatred. what we are seeing here is a bunch of chechen, ossetian and inguishetian seperatists, and a president who wrongly hinted at arab involvence to take the heat off his shoulders, which subsequently started people like you speaking out. that's all. regarding america; im talking the usa, mate, seeing as BOTH canada AND south-america opposed war in iraq(as did russia). look around you, the only people who want you to war are the americans(so that russian soldiers can go in and die instead of the us ones) the reality is, if the world doesn't stop talking invasion etc. you will find iran(who is fast approaching breaking point) explode into combat which makes arab, chechens and afghans look like tea-boys(look at history-ONLY country never to be colonised-more fanatics in iran than rest of mid-east combined). so keep going, mr terrible, and i think you'll find yourself on the fastly-rising heap of dead bodies all this hyped-up war is causing.. and as for my Darwinian fate; your prediction is noted but my offer still stands..

Ivan		28-Oct-2004 01:19
There is no war nor plans to wage war with Caucasus - as a matter of fact, many Caucasians are engaged in fighting the Chechen separatists and anybody profiting from instability in the region. Not to mention the multi-nationality of the armed forces of Russian Federation or the use of the word "American" - there are two American Continents... Which one you chose to blame for the violence exactly? There is a war against bands of Muslim extremists fighting to turn the nation yet into another terrorist training camp - soon to perish Muslim extremists... with utmost prejudice. As for meeting you in Neutral Territory - your stupidity will take care of you, the Darwin Way

Alexeis Zemanova		27-Oct-2004 19:21
Yes once again, the Russians and the Americans show the world how to hate!! After reading this i think you must be as bad as the Muslim terrorists. Sure, you dont strap up bombs, but by your language and intentions; i'd say the Devil has infested your soul just as much as theirs. In fact, AT LEAST THEY ARE NOT ALL MOUTH. Listen: start a war in the Caucasus, and it will be the last war you ever make. PS ANYONE GOT A PROBLEM WITH ME OR WHAT I SAY PLEASE EMAIL AND WE WILL MEET UP ON NEUTRAL TERRITORY AND DEAL WITH THE ISSUE.(dont shrug, email me and we will see..) ps most Russians who hate the Caucasians are the ones who, yep, you guessed it, LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE CAUCASIANS! dont be fooled, all you decent people out there; the Russian bark is much worse than her bite!(how else did Afghanistan take them all out??)

Guest		19-Aug-2004 21:34
Some Chechens try to persuade the world, especially their sponsors in rich Arab countries, that the war is between Muslims and Christians. This is not true. It is a war that Russia wages against criminals and relligion has nothing to do about it. That's the bottom line. Maschadov couldn't maintain order after the 1st war, warlords were laughing at him when he pleaded them to stop criminal activities in the Caucasus. There was a time when a quick strike against the likes of Baraev could have contained their practices. Maschadov was afraid to do it and soon he was left with practically no influence over what was going on in Chechnya. Somebody had to stop this. I'm glad Russia did.

Guest		05-Aug-2004 20:15
Keep in mind he doesn't speak for all Christians.

Guest		31-Jul-2004 21:12
Fuck the Muslim pigs. A good chechen is a dead chechen. Bezpredel for ever!!! God bless the christian crussaders, our Russian brothers!!! kill those fucking muslim animals like insects. Cut out their hearts and feed them to dogs so the dogs can shit chechen flesh!!!! Kill all Muslims!!!!

LADANOV		19-Jul-2004 10:55
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Insignus		11-Jul-2004 02:44
Interesting gallery here. I was enjoying it until I found this comment section. People who generalize about the people of a certain religion or race, by using comments like "Muslims are evil" or "Russians are evil" are in the same category as terrorists. They are both ignorant, being so lazy that they decide to judge only on surface characteristics.

guest		06-Jul-2004 13:51
muslims do like to think that they have never committed genocide, which is not true. They conveniently forget that over a million armenians were murdered during and after the First World War by the turks. They also like to ignore the current goings-on in Sudan, in which two million people have died in a war between the north and the south. The Christian and animist african rebels in the south are fighting for autonomy from the more arab, islamic north trying to force Shariah law down their throats. The rape, murder, and enslavement of africans there borders on genocide. Because of international outcry, the slaves are being released. Right now there is a cease fire and negotiations which i pray will end the conflict.

Nikolaj		05-Jul-2004 14:41
Great gallery. Thanks for supporting our brave forces in Chenchnya. They are defending our country and our pride from the evil ideology called Islam. The socalled 'atrocities' from the russian side are nothing compared to what the barbaric muslim creatures did. God Bless Russia.

Guest		01-Jul-2004 20:43
I am an atheists and from what i have seen the terrorists in the world that we see are not just Islamic, we have Christian terrorists (IRA). It is only the extremists of religion who do the bad stuff. For people who believe in god let them believe them in any non-violent way they want. Who cares if god is black white or even multicoloured, what matters is that people believe in what they want and at least have something to believe in. Everyone has the right to believe in what they want, but no-one has the right to kill defenceless people and say it is in the name of god. Basically god is been used as an excuse to kill... Both sides are performing genocide and in my view they are as bad as each other. This gallery shows us past the war it shows the people fighting it, from hard-core Chechnyan rebels to Russian conscripts, you can see they are all the same fighting to survive. That is war...I cannot believe that we have adults bickering over religious believes. I am 16 and i understand that all religions have a right to exist and people can believe in what they want. The true religious people are not the ones doing the shooting!

Guest		25-Jun-2004 08:31
It is correct to accuse the Russian army and government of war crimes in Chechnya, and equally correct to call the Chechen rebels terrorists. The fact is, both sides have committed atrocities

D		22-Jun-2004 02:34
Ah, Mr.Payne...stop talking now before you embarass yourself, yes? (and that's disregarding your rampant misuse of capital letters) Honestly, has it ever occured to you that "Christian" countries expanded and conquered "heathens" in various places...? coughTHE AMERICAScough besides, who are you to go around denouncing the Islamic faith? I mean, you have no more hard evidence that Christianity is "right" than Muslims do for their faith. I mean, you can believe that they're heathens if you want to, but damn, just let 'em believe what they wanna believe... but if that's too secular for you, lemme put it to you differently: You're a roman catholic, which automatically invalidates everything you say - honestly, you wipe your soul clear of sins every sunday (or however often you confess)...and original sin?! what the fuck is up with that?! "yeah...you got born, so for whatever reason we choose, you're obviously a sinner..." honestly, don't knock other people's religions when yours could be equally as shitty. all that aside, none of the major world religions preach violence - and killing in the name of religion is downright stupid and inexcusable (considering "this book told me to" is a shitty excuse - especially when any idiot can read the book and say "no, it didn't") PS: Was your Koran the King George (II) version? (if you didn't pick up on that, then there is no hope...)

Randy Payne		21-Jun-2004 05:09
Why do Muslims think their religion is right just because some guy named Muhammad wakes up in the desert one day and says, " I'm recieving direct revelations from God to write this book," some 600 years after Christ. At least Christians have " Mountains" of books vefifying the evidence of Christ, including the jewish historian " Josephus," and hundreds of other scholars with much of it written around the time of Christ. The Muslims have one guy who says he's a prophet, and one book( The Quran).

Randy Payne		21-Jun-2004 04:58
I am a Roman Catholic who owns a Koran in which I studied their( Muslim) religious beliefs in order to understand them. My thoughts are, the Koran preaches violence against those who don't convert to Islam. Also, The Muslims keep bringing up the " Crusades." Well, if they would study their own History, they would find that they attacked other countries before the crusades to further the spread of Islam and to forcebly convert those people to Islam( Including the present day Israel). The Crusades were meant to free all of those oppressed peoples. Yes, they mudered Muslims just as the Muslims mudered Men, Women, and Children well before the Crusades!

Muslim		10-Jun-2004 03:19
Muslims believe that Jesus is the Messenger of Allah just like Abraham, Moses, Noah, and Muhammad Peace be upon them all. All of these Messengers tought the same thing from the time of Adam, the Message of ISLAM.

Guest		09-Jun-2004 00:18
i just want to clarify that muslims and christians do not believe in the same god. muslims reject the divinity of Christ, Christ being a part of the Holy Trinity. Therefore since they reject Jesus Christ as being also God, they reject the Christian god. All three parts of the Trinity or none, you can't be gray in the middle on this issue

Mehmet		06-Jun-2004 09:56
The Chechen muslims are not the extremists. It's because of the barbaric cruelty of the russian army that drives about 1 million people to courageously stand up in the name of God against a former superpower of 100 million people, and they will not be defeated. Some russian posted that they saved europe from facism; but really their communist dictatorship was no better and a fact is when soviet troops took Berlin there were more than 90,000 instances of rape on the german women reported in that city alone. Muslims never massacared christians or jews, but historically the crusade, WW2 holocust, and the genocides now in Palestine, Bosnia and Chechnya are clear evidences of crimes by those of Chritianity and Judaism. After 9/11 muslims are abused all over the world. Do not blame the rightous religion of well over 1 billion people for the mistakes of a handfull of misguided fanatics. Those who think all muslims are extemists without the proper knowledge about Islam are immature fools. Look at the history of the crusade of how christians terrorized and massacared muslims. But the Muslims won then and they will win now. GOD is the greatest!

Mehmet		06-Jun-2004 09:44
It hurts me to read how much misunderstanding there is about the Islam religion. The person who wrote that muslims don't believe in Jesus or the same God as christians and jews cannot be more WRONG! The Holy Quran [the bible for muslims] mentions more about Jesus than any other prophets (all prophets who are also mentioned in old and new Testaments) and we muslims DO believe in the same ONE AND ONLY GOD as christians and jews. Islam is a continuation and completion of Judaism and Christianity and the preachings of all the prophets that has spread God's words. I am rather confused about the christian idea of God as a trinity and the exceptence of gay bishops. When I try to find out about Christianity I find too many different versions of the Bible, some clearly contradicting each other. Jesus was born to a jewish virgin, Mary; its funny to see how now-a-days he is painted as a white, straight blonde haired, blue eyed person, which he clearly was not. Its also funny to see jews claim they want peace when zionism is like a exact copy of hitler's racist agenda. Islam gives women the most rights then any other religion and is the most practical and humane. But one must READ the meaning of the Holy Quran instead of coming up with a false picture about the largest and fastest growing religion in the world.

Guest		20-May-2004 04:07
Bol'schoe spasibo sozdatelyam etoj galerei. Ya sam byvshij zhitel' Groznogo i teper' vplotnuyu zanimayus' rabotoj po Genocidu Russkih v Chechne. Moi sajty (kotorye pochemu-to nazyvayut antichechenskimi) rasskazyvayut o real'noj zhizni v �revolyucionnoj� Chechne, o prichinah togo, chto i privelo k vojne. Vse materialy real'nye, ot samih russkih zhitelej Chechni. Ya tozhe imeyu neskol'ko fotoal'bomov i budu rad, esli chto-to iz nih prigoditsya i vam, sozdatelyam etoj galerei. Tem bolee, chto mnozhestvo fotografij mne prislali groznency iz lichnyh arhivov i ih esche ne bylo v internete. V svoyu ochered' priglaschayu na svoj sajt vseh, komu interesna i nebezrazlichna eta tema i teh, komu ne bezrazlichna sud'ba russkogo naseleniya byvshej Checheno-Ingushetii. S uvazheniem k prisutstvuyuschim, publicist - Yurij Kondrat'ev (avtor rasskaza �Groznyj. Neskol'ko dnej...") - http://conrad2001.narod.ru/ P. S. Na sajte est' i stranichka na anglijskom yazyke. Na nej vystavleno mnogo materialov. (Proschu proscheniya za translit)

Pavel Kirilovich		08-May-2004 00:05
Yeah, there are a lot of them. We've got a Russian community of near 200-500 now. Even have a Russian Orthodox Church. Pavel

Guest		06-May-2004 04:58
hmm never thought there were Russians in Saint Johns! I thought they were all in Toronto or here in Vancouver

Pavel Kirilovich		06-May-2004 00:52
Yeah, Pavel Kirilovich Krukov is my nickname. I used to live in Calgary, Alberta, but now I reside in Saint John's Newfoundland. Nice here, more Russians, fewer Ukrainians. Had a Russian trawler in harbour for damn near a year, I talked to a fair few guys down there whilst taking pictures of their ship. It used to be a Norwegian boat I think, at least with a name such as "Rem Fjord" it should've been - that or Swedish. The boat wasn't renamed, but the name was "Russified." They were in long enough to repaint the entire thing, some sort of fishing violation or sommot. One of the things I'm fond of with this gallery is that ability to post comments on individual images as well - Meaning you can look at an image, think: 'What is that rifle called?' and likely find out. I've done a lot of that kind of thing, AKMS and the like rifles. Then one guy with the "AKSU-74M" or whatever the hell it was. Gah. -Pavel

Guest		04-May-2004 02:50
Pavel - what city are you from? Is Pavel Kirillovich your nickname?

Pavel Kirilovich		01-May-2004 00:47
JEBAT, Tom, thanks for your kind words. This isn't my gallery mates, it's Igor's. JEBAT - I'm not a currently serving military man, I'm a Canadian, 15 years old. Never left the country. Knowledge is Wonderful, I've talked to every Russian I've met here and every Chechen I've met here, and they're great people, mostly. A few of them have what's called "Chechnya Syndrome" I found that with a particular Weapons Sergeant belonging to a Motor-Rifle division, we talked for three hours on the Kalashnikov alone, he "Snapped out of it." I know waaay too much about firearms, soldiery, etc. This is a great gallery, but in my opinion, too much bullshit here. When I say bullshit, I mean this "THE RUSSIANS ARE EVIL!" or "THE CHECHENS ARE EVIL!" Its crap. Both sides can be real bastards, and this conflict isn't gonna be resolved anytime soon. I like to think that it's not as violent as it once was, but then something in Moscow blows up and proves me wrong. -Pavel

tom		28-Apr-2004 06:22
Privyet droog! Pavel, excellent gallery here. It shows the russian military well. I was trained to fightn the Russian militaery in the height of the cold war and have a healthy respect for the Russian soldier. I wish to extend my best wishes to the soldiers currently serving in campaigns against the muslim extremists around the globe. I fully believe the extremists are the current greatest threat to both Russia and the United States. I am happy we are now allies again and forsee a long and prosperous relationship between both of our countries in the future. spasiba-thomas thomasovicvh

JEBAT		20-Apr-2004 11:35
dear mr.Pavel, i've read some of ur comments in this webpage and i must say that some of ur comments are quite interesting. ur detail description on the weaponary and comments with 'personal touch' on the image of human face makes me wonder wether ur a military man urself & serve ur time in chechnya (pls correct me if i'm wrong). However, ur comment on the main page of this gallery really caught my attention. a perspective or point of views that never came to my head. Is Putin a Jew? and the hidden reason behind the Chechen war. wow, i guess only a Russian can see from that point of view. more or less, i would like u to know that i enjoy reading ur comments and respect ur point of view eventhough some i found a bit hard agree with.Anyways, hope to read more of ur comments in the future.

Pavel Kirilovich		10-Apr-2004 06:03
"I think Putin is jewish. Why else would he send so many Russian Whites of quality genetics to die in ritual executions by these Chechen animals? If Russia were run by White people, instead of the jews who ruled it since the early 1900s (after the Czar and family were murdered, almost in a Semitic ritualistic fashion), why have bio-weapons not been deployed to defeat the Chechens, if it is so important to hold Chechnya in the first place? Obviously, the whole point of the war is to destroy the remaining Russian stock of quality. It's "kosher", like the kosher slaughter of animals, and let us not forget how similar the Muslim slaughter is to kosher slaughter. Really, no different. That should be a clue" You appear to have forgotten the state-sanctioned Anti-Semitism under the Communist regime. There were hundreds, if not thousands of Jewish prisoners in GULAG camps simply because they're Jewish. True, they were never lined up and shot, but they still were, and in many cases, still are there. I say "Still are" because many Zeks set up towns and cities near the GULAG that they were released from - As they could very rarely get back to where they were taken from. This is a damn fine Gallery. -Pavel

Guest		09-Apr-2004 15:20
this gallery is by far the best i am not going to comment about the war. there is a lot of awfull stuff from both sides. but i do want to comment about one thing. the war is between russia and the chechen people trying to separate. who the hell do the american and european reporters think they are when they are writing such absurd information in their newspapers? it seems all they want to bring on that topic is entertainment. just yesterday i saw a photo in an article on an american site, which showed 2 russian soldiers standing by the appartment door outside - and a chechen woman is walking out with her baby in her hands. one of the russians has his ak pointing to the ground - another one is resting it on his chest with both hands crossed over it. the messege under the photo is as follows: two russian soldiers are pointing their guns at a chechen woman and her baby. russians never killed any children or women. unless they were criminals, who hopefully will be dealt with.

American		05-Apr-2004 10:05
WOW..very nice gallery, man... a lot of different ideas here...some provide facts some dont... from my opinion...I support the Russians...i might be American...but i still respect the Russians...even though both Chechens and Russians had crimes in war...but i still cannot support muslim extremists...who cut off inocent civillians...or even soldiers head for entertainment... I hope that Russian will end this conflict soon...with a victory afcourse...and also I wish for chechens to have a free country... the fighers in Chechnya are not Freedom fighters...they are mercineries...they are not fighting for freedom but to make a muslim state... Chechens already dont care about freedom all they want is peace...so if Russians can push back the muslim extremists...than both Russians and Chechens would be happy...so I wish good luck for the Russians John

Steven		04-Apr-2004 06:59
I think Putin is jewish. Why else would he send so many Russian Whites of quality genetics to die in ritual executions by these Chechen animals? If Russia were run by White people, instead of the jews who ruled it since the early 1900s (after the Czar and family were murdered, almost in a Semitic ritualistic fashion), why have bio-weapons not been deployed to defeat the Chechens, if it is so important to hold Chechnya in the first place? Obviously, the whole point of the war is to destroy the remaining Russian stock of quality. It's "kosher", like the kosher slaughter of animals, and let us not forget how similar the Muslim slaughter is to kosher slaughter. Really, no different. That should be a clue. http://www.DOWZ.Net

Derrick Botha		03-Apr-2004 18:54
All Muslims suck! End of story! As some of the people said: How can you call yourself a "freedom fighter" if you use terrorists and terrorism to kill innocent people? And one of the people pointed out: That Christians, Jews and Muslims all believe in the same God, that is crap! As a Christian I would know, Jews don't believe in Jesus, so that's not the same God, Muslims don't believe in Jesus, not the same God! Also, the Bible NEVER says "go kill all non (fill your religion in here)"! God says He will punish the wicked, and we don't have to. Plus, the Americans licked your muslim ass!

Guest		23-Mar-2004 12:35
the way the ruskies entered grozny is exactly the same way the entered afghanistan and chekoslavia during world war II. their way of peace is to show force,well its in their ORBAT anyways. i guess the afghanis and the chechens fight more vigorously compared to the chezk. interesting to note that when big powers invade (or in more popular words - to free) a free state (or country) they always seems to have big confidence in it and mostly got bite back. take these for account: united states entered vietnam and somalia with marines landing and press cameras awaits them at the beach side, few months after that all hell broke loose. same thing with the ruskies (with the exception of the press and marines)but same thing, big numbers of tanks just rumble in to downtown, of course the result well.... got lots of great picture in the website to show the result :)

Guest		22-Mar-2004 17:48
Russia is the biggest land in the world.(from the size of the country) Why do you think it is so big? Because they were always negotiating and making peace, diologue and tolerance... No because they fight wars like the one in Chechnia since hundreds of years in Europe and Asia. For me as a german this war is not that exceptional. I am only concerned if the Russians can win this time, too. After all my sympathy is more with the Russians than with some jihad fighters.

Guest		20-Mar-2004 17:59
I think that this wep page have the best and more complet photos colllection of the Russian troops in the Chechenian conflict, in this conflict I are lost good friends who comprised of the Russian troops. I am owner of the DOBERMAN Co, this company is dedicated to sell militar equipment new or used around the world for hunt, collectors, Airsoft, militars, etc... and I want said to the all people that look this beatifull wep page that I am interesting in buy the all russian militar equipment that want and can sell me, new or used. Please, If any person want and can sell me russian miliatr equipment please, send me the e-mail and I speak with you and If any need aid in any cuestion that I can aid he please said me. E-MAIL: doberman_co@hotmail.com Your friend: EL DOBERMAN.

Guest		20-Mar-2004 17:57
I think that this wep page have the best and more complet photos colllection of the Russian troops in the Chechenian conflict, in this conflict I are lost good friends who comprised of the Russian troops. I am owner of the DOBERMAN Co, this company is dedicated to sell militar equipment new or used around the world for hunt, collectors, Airsoft, militars, etc... and I want said to the all people that look this beatifull wep page that I am interesting in buy the all russian militar equipment that want and can sell me, new or used. Please, If any person want and can sell me russian miliatr equipment please, send me the e-mail and I speak with you and If any need aid in any cuestion that I can aid he please said me. Your friend: EL DOBERMAN.

Pavel Kirilovich		14-Mar-2004 06:25
To respond to the "Jesus" post: I find your generalization insulting in the extreme. Yes, there are rapists, murderers, pyschopaths, and several other variations of deviant in the Russian Army. Those are in the Chechnyan Mujadaheen as well, so there is no difference. I'd like to point out that not ALL Russians are murdering, raping, pillaging psychopaths like you'd have us believe... You talk of the Chechnyan Veterns. Yeah, they're a lot differnt from a Russian Vet, but at the same time, they've both experianced roughly the same thing. -Pavel

jesus		13-Mar-2004 19:39
man i think barcelona make sense. the russian army is in a very bad condition, they are not getting paied so they are stealing from chechen civilians and even kidnapings to ask ransom and if there family dont pay they kill them, maybe someone here will say i am in the russian army and i am getting payed and everything is fine there is no problems the russian solder in his best condetion, well we hope so but we know it is not true. we used to belive that the chechns are terrorists and taleban lovers like your media told us, maaan there is a lot of chechens here in europe and they are normal people i have seen injured fighters who fought the russians they are really different from the way your media trys to represent them to the world and they have a very strong reason to fight you guys the reall terrorists are wearing russian army ranks on there shoulders ....man what ever is your replay there is no excuse for the killing of that nation under the name of war against terroresim the reall terrorists are the barbarians who call them selves THE RUSSIAN ARMY.

Pavel Kirilovich		13-Mar-2004 05:01
The "Liberation" by the WW2-Era Red Army was simply trading one kind of Facism for another. Had Hitler won the war, a great many of us wouldn't exist. And, to add onto this whole "Guerilla Warfare & The Soviets" thing: 1) Russian forces retain Soviet doctrine. They have traditionally been equipped for large assaults on Western Europe. If Russia wanted [And they have already demonstrated] they could easily turn Chechnya into a parking lot. 2) Chechnyan Mujadaheen are fighting for their homes. They're fanatical fighters and most of them are GUERILLA fighters, NOT terrorists. 3) Mujadaheen are traditionally any able-bodied Muslim male. This means that you get a lot of fundamentalist Taliban TERRORISTS and the like in the Mujadaheen mix. 4) Against an occupying power, Guerilla fighters have the advantage: a) They are generally supported by the population b) They know the terrain c) They are able to merge back into the civilian population d) The media loves them. I don't know why. 5) Russian army units are not trained for counter insurgency warfare. I'd like to point out that the only effective units in Afghanistan were two independant Mountain brigades, any VDV or Spetsnaz force deployed, and two independant light-infantry battalions. 6) In Chechnya, same story. Regular-Infantry and armoured formations are hideously ineffective. Spetsnaz, Mountain-Warfare troops, and VDV are the most effective. Lets look at why this war started, in part: a) Chechnyans start killing Ethnic Russians living in the area. b) Russian Army moves in. c) Chechnyans take up arms against Russian Army d) Russian army begins to fight guerilla war that they are not trained for e) In the process, several hundred thousand ethnic Chechnyans are raped, killed, beaten, et cetera. Why? Because the conscript - of any nation - does not have a good level of morale, discipline, training, or even half-decent equipment. f) In retaliation, Chechnyans begin to torture Russian prisioners before summary execution g) Russians respond in kind h) Vicious Circle. Nice and simple. Unfortunatly, nobody can look at this with a clear mind. -Pavel

peacemaker		12-Mar-2004 08:01
Danm it, barcelona, you must be realy stupid if you think that all of russia fighting with chechens. The point us that the russian army wasn't trained for this kind of action but for global massive attacks. If Russian army forces used at least 1% of their massive destruction arsenal - chechya would be a desert by now. The thing is that it's a rebel republic and is a part or Russian Federation. Is is so freaking difficult to understand at last? The Chechen figthers are partisans and the've been them for ages - it's in their nature, they're defending ther home and know every bush around-that's why russians sucked in there. And this conflict is actually government's fault, not army's. I don't support what russian army does in chechnya at all, but you really telling shit about our army, man. You must be the one of them pissed off muslim defenders i guess. Do us a favour - think before you say anything like that ant speak to the point. And remember who freed all of the europe from fascism cos if not russians your sunny country would be fkd up for sure.

Lmaberd		07-Mar-2004 02:05
i don't i have to learn about anything because what i know is enough, it is people like who have to learn about your governments, or maybe you are working for the government that is why you are defending those blood suckers! Chechnya would have never attacked Russia it is Russia who attacked Chechnya in the first place and it was in 1994 and that war ended with Russia loosing the war. about the buildings tell me something about what happened in (tekstilshiki) area your government agents were setting a bomb over there in a big building with 9 stores and the people noticed them and there was the scandal, they missioned that incident in your news papers and television but they were soon silenced by the blood sucker PUTIN and that was enough to know who was behind the buildings attacks...

Guest		06-Mar-2004 18:34
" in moscow theater the chechens killed just 1 woman, that�s is what the kremlin saied at that time, and the outhers were all killed by a direct order from putin" Order was given to prevent chechens from having 1 killed to 1,000 hostages killed. "even the buildings which were bombed it was the act of the russian FSB." Once again do you have a prove? Don't open your mouth if you can't back up your sh*t. It is boring talking with you since you repeat your text over and over, come back when you learn more :)

Pavel Kirilovich		06-Mar-2004 06:39
I see... two threads of thought here. 1) Pro Chechnya 2) Pro Russia Both sides just spout the same horseshit day in, day out. This honestly gets tiring. -Pavel

Lamberd		06-Mar-2004 05:11
AGAIN, and dont tell me it is a lie please........ there is no terror in defending, the reall terror is done by the kremlin. plese dont be stupid! after many years of terror in chechnya killing almost everything that moves in that small country, when the chechens are dissapointed of the ignorant russians, they did what they did to wake the russians, but they the did�nt know a dead nation can�t be awaken, in moscow theater the chechens killed just 1 woman, that�s is what the kremlin saied at that time, and the outhers were all killed by a direct order from putin, even the buildings which were bombed it was the act of the russian FSB. your country is poor and it will stay poor with a war or without a war, generaals are getting richer and the russians are becoming beggers..for the chechens it is freedom, for the kremlin it is a reason...to be richer.

Yevgeny Stephanovich Bolkov		06-Mar-2004 00:37
I've been in Chechnya. Where I was [Outskirts of Grozny] - couple of casualties a day, but that was the oddity - I never saw 15 or more WIA or KIA in a day, and the aidpost was next to the CP, I was assigned there as a platoon radio operator. Also caught some grenade fragments in downtown Grozny, some crazy Chechnyan b*tch killed herself and two of my buddies, fragment wounded me.

Guest		05-Mar-2004 22:13
lol, I served in chechnya, now I ask you who better knows you or me? Keep watching your CNN, and make yourself look like a fool. MOST of these "freedon fighters" went to iraq cause they will get paid better. And about your other crap that "russian secret agents to show the Chechen's kidnappers and murderers", well it is already a FACT that chechens kidnapp and kill. The other FACT is that Basaev is an International Terrorist! Just proves how much you know, from listening to your jounalists. And may I know where your facts are coming from? 15 KIA a day my ass, stop being a smartass and read more.

Lamberd		05-Mar-2004 18:20
the russians were in a war with chechens in 1994-1996 and the russians were defeated by a small groups of chechens and in this war which started in 1999 the russian casualties in chechnya is 10 to 15 KIA every day 300 to 350 every mounth. most of the chechen casualties are civilians.

barcelona		05-Mar-2004 15:35
PLEASE DESANT don't tell me about Link, your country don't need a links to kill those people in chechnya and the links you are talking about are made up by the russian authorities, the foreign fighters in chechnya are only a couple of hundred if they are stiil there because according to your comment you said that all the foreign fighters went to iraq SO MAKE UP YOUR MIND MAN! the talk in erope was about Chechen's kidnapping people and killing them, we all know it was all done by the russian secret agents to show the Chechen's kidnappers and murderers, i know journalists who have been in chechnya and they have manage to show us the real situation in chechnya most of the people now knows what is going on over there killing raping kidnapping Chechen's it is all done by the Russians who are always drunk but still i belive that the chehens are kicking you r armey all over the field your army is really FKD-UP and so you are desant i guess now we dont have to worry about russia any more we know what kind of army you have drunked babys with guns. desde barcelona saludos para chechenia.

Guest		05-Mar-2004 06:17
barcelona Another one who don't know the situation in this conflict. First of all, most of them aren't chechens, its arab merceneries, ukraniens and many other. Now i'd like to remind you that these merceneries are proffessionals, many of them were in afghan and other conflicts. Other thing is we're fighting with GUERRILLA Forces. That means, they do not fight in the open. That means, road bombs/mines, hit and run in unequal fights. these chehcens are kidnappers, terrorists with links to Al Quede with Osama (field comm. Basayev) The REST of the chechen population never wanted that war. GET AN IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON IN CHECHNYA BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH.

barcelona		05-Mar-2004 04:19
what the hell! you know guys i thought Chechnya is a big country and really strong, fighting the russians for almost 10 years! i hardly found it on the map you Russians are really FKD-UP. what i mean is...imagine a stronger Chechnya with a population between 5 million and 10 million what wold happen to the Russian!..all the Chechen's are hardly 1 million person! and they are kicking your butts all over the field and the Russians population is over than 100 million. 1 million against 150 million..what the hell is going on over there!!!

Lamberd		03-Mar-2004 04:59
there is no terror in defending, the reall terror is done by the kremlin. plese dont be stupid! after many years of terror in chechnya killing almost everything that moves in that small country, when the chechens are dissapointed of the ignorant russians, they did what they did to wake the russians, but they the did�nt know a dead nation can�t be awaken, in moscow theater the chechens killed just 1 woman, that�s is what the kremlin saied at that time, and the outhers were all killed by a direct order from putin, even the buildings which were bombed it was the act of the russian FSB. your country is poor and it will stay poor with a war or without a war, generaals are getting richer and the russians are becoming beggers..for the chechens it is freedom, for the kremlin it is a reason...to be richer.

Pavel Kirilovich		02-Mar-2004 23:57
Hard for the Russians to withdraw, because then the Chechnyans will be happy, Russians will be happy - they'll stop dying there for little reason, but terrorists will continue to launch out of Chechnya and then the Russians will come back again. Therein lies your problem. AK

Guest		02-Mar-2004 02:33
I must say that these pictures have raised deep repressed memories of mine... I discoverd this gallery through a stray link... It appears I have found something interesting. Chechnya, I'm sorry to say, is a place of death. It always has been. I usally don't talk much about past areas of my life, however, I feel compelled to refer to them when looking at these photographs. I feel it my duty to express what I know to be the truth... The point of the matter is that I am a former K.G.B. officer; and I don't mean a low ranking field agent. I served in it from birth to death, watched it from NKVD, to MGB, to MKGB, and finally KGB. I was young then, and didn't have much say. Interestingly enough, the constant deaths made premotion rates increase. After Stalin's premature death, and Kruschev came to power, I and several others worked hard to bring justice for the Chechnyns, and it finally worked, as one of the previous commentators pointed out. For nearly thirty-three years I, and others like me, tried to work to help the Chechnyans. However, when the U.S.S.R. dissolved, I could no longer keep my position with a good consience, and "resigned" my career. The work I put into Chechnya has all but deceased now. Sometimes I wonder if I had stayed if I could have kept more bloodshed from occuring... I've spoken my mind; if there are any of you from Chechnya, I wish to ask that you not blame my homeland, but the dogs who now run it. I also wish to apologize for not having been able to do more for you all... I pray that one day our land will live in peace once again. As for these photographs, they are excelent. You have a true talent for photography. Yours with all sincerity, Anomynous, (KGB Ret.)

Lamberd

01-Mar-2004 15:58