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Thanks to all the visitors who left kind comments on this gallery, I would like to clarify though that I am not the author of these photos, they have been taken by different people whom I do not know personally. The authors of the pictures deserve every praise that you have expressed and more. I've posted these to show just a little bit of what the reality of the war in Chechnya looks like. Also, please refrain from posting any hate messages against either of the sides involved in this conflict, this gallery is not a political statement. You can view the entire collection of Chechen war pictures at: http://www.vif2.ru

If you're interested in buying the original Russian military gear like the items shown in these pictures, visit www.RussianCombatGear.com

UPDATE: After numerous failed attempts to pursuade visitors to stay civil in their discussions I've had to disallow the unregistered users the ability to post comments. Hopefully this will cut down on the number of hateful posts we've all seen too much of lately. Thank you.

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AU79 23-Feb-2008 20:30
To the Entire world, actual fact, to judge any country as a whole for the actions of their leaders is an ignorant way of thinking. The citizens of all countries fighting in the middle east or anywhere else for that matter, do not wish the decimation or dominion of these people in conflict. Nor do the soldiers who fight, none of the soldiers wish to be in war, the UK, Australia and the USA, none wish to be there, but that doesn't really matter does it, when the leaders of great nations decide, their will be done. I'm deeply disturbed to learn of the hatred most nations have for the USA and other participating nations within the middle east affair. "All wars are civil , because all men are brothers"
but on the other hand, Death solves all problems "No man, No problem" Joesph Stalin.
AU79
AU79 23-Feb-2008 15:37
To the Entire world, actual fact, to judge any country as a whole for the actions of their leaders is an ignorant way of thinking. The citizens of all countries fighting in the middle east or anywhere else for that matter, do not wish the decimation or dominion of these people in conflict. Nor do the soldiers who fight, none of the soldiers wish to be in war, the UK, Australia and the USA, none wish to be there, but that doesn't really matter does it, when the leaders of great nations decide, their will be done. I'm deeply disturbed to learn of the hatred most nations have for the USA and other participating nations within the middle east affair. "All wars are civil , because all men are brothers"
but on the other hand, Death solves all problems "No man, No problem" Joesph Stalin.
AU79
AU79 23-Feb-2008 15:36
To the Entire world, actual fact, to judge any country as a whole for the actions of their leaders is an ignorant way of thinking. The citizens of all countries fighting in the middle east or anywhere else for that matter, do not wish the decimation or dominion of these people in conflict. Nor do the soldiers who fight, none of the soldiers wish to be in war, the UK, Australia and the USA, none wish to be there, but that doesn't really matter does it, when the leaders of great nations decide, their will be done. I'm deeply disturbed to learn of the hatred most nations have for the USA and other participating nations within the middle east affair. "All wars are civil , because all men are brothers"
but on the other hand, Death solves all problems "No man, No problem" Joesph Stalin.
AU79
AU79 23-Feb-2008 15:34
To the Entire world, actual fact, to judge any country as a whole for the actions of their leaders is an ignorant way of thinking. The citizens of all countries fighting in the middle east or anywhere else for that matter, do not wish the decimation or dominion of these people in conflict. Nor do the soldiers who fight, none of the soldiers wish to be in war, the UK, Australia and the USA, none wish to be there, but that doesn't really matter does it, when the leaders of great nations decide, their will be done. I'm deeply disturbed to learn of the hatred most nations have for the USA and other participating nations within the middle east affair. "All wars are civil , because all men are brothers"
but on the other hand, Death solves all problems "No man, No problem" Joesph Stalin.
AU79
AU79 23-Feb-2008 06:41
To the Entire world, actual fact, to judge any country as a whole for the actions of their leaders is an ignorant way of thinking. The citizens of all countries fighting in the middle east or anywhere else for that matter, do not wish the decimation or dominion of these people in conflict. Nor do the soldiers who fight, none of the soldiers wish to be in war, the UK, Australia and the USA, none wish to be there, but that doesn't really matter does it, when the leaders of great nations decide, their will be done. I'm deeply disturbed to learn of the hatred most nations have for the USA and other participating nations within the middle east affair. "All wars are civil , because all men are brothers"
but on the other hand, Death solves all problems "No man, No problem" Joesph Stalin.
AU79
op684 31-Oct-2007 13:59
To those of you who say that Chechnya is devoid of any scars - SHAME ON YOU. There is no need for old, fake Russian propaganda here. Post-war Grozny was the most destroyed city in Europe since the the bombing of Germany in WWII. Hundreds of thousands of innocent women, children and men were killed by random Russian bombings. Of course, it is easy to win a war when your enemy is on land with a gun in his hand, while you are on an "istrebitel" (fighter aircraft) dropping bombs on him and on peaceful villages. Today, in the reign of that rat Kadyrov, thousands of families have their members disappear. The West and the Russians, who are heavily brainwashed by their state-controlled Channel 1, believe that the Russian govt has won a war against terrorists and put a peaceful, pro-Russian, democratic governor (Karydov) in place. I have doubts about peaceful and democratic, but pro-Russian he definitely is. And that is the ONLY reason why he is the current governor there. Anyone who knows Chechnya knows that it was and is divided into clans (teips). Ramzan Kadyrov is simply one leader of such a clan, who was previously a rebel, who has agreed with the Russian govt to stop the Chechnian seccesionist movement in return for the Russians providing him with military and financial backing. THIS IS HOW IT IS. Ramzan is just another warlord who disgracefully used the weak political state of Chechnya to seize power for himself by forging a tie and alliance with the Russian govt and "hunting the anti-Russian forces". Also, why does no one mention the fact that FSB was involved in the Russian apartment bombings in 1999 that were blamed on Chechens, but NOT ONE Chechen was arrested in connection with those bombings. Doesn't that seem strange ? It does, and it is because it was really the FSB who carried out the bombings on their own Russians, to then blame it on Chechens to boost Russian support for the second Chechen war, and then SEAL all the material that had to do with the bombings FOR 70 YEARS, after a Russian man accidentally caught FSB agents unloading bombs into his apartment building. Men and women, please don't taken any information that you see on the news on face value. The internet is a wonderful tool that has the potential to free humans from all forms of bondage, including false national propaganda, if only they express the desire.
ramzan 03-Sep-2007 20:49
To kalafan just for the record there were more countries NOT involved in any conflict during the 20th Century than you imagine, so that list is longer than you thought.. and even if there was not, that is no automatic excuse and justification for war.

Chechnya war is over and should remain so. I agree with all posts about America minding their own business. You only have to look at the mess they have created in Iraq to realise Americans know very little about controlling terrorism.

So long as Russia keeps their Chechnya policy clean that is the main thing. Putin is still not doing enough in protecting those people in the cities and all Russians will know exactly what I am talking about. Turning a blind eye to Nazis will always cost in the long run, so come on Vladimir, erase those dirty Nazis out once and for all before we are back to the beginning again!
Kompajuan 28-Aug-2007 21:10
The truth is the reconstrctio in efforts in Chechnya are going smoothly and faster than will evr be dreamed on in Iraq, many areas of Grozny are devoid of any battle scars, or the least, are hardly noticeable, even parks and squares are recovered, trees are back into the picture, and heavy social investment and State reconstruction of infraestructure has been going on at breakneck speed, not so in bloodsoaked Iraq, where the death toll has just surpased 1'092'070 ciilians killed, their infraestructure in shambles, no running water, no electricty, long lines for trivial things from water, to ice, in-fighting not only between shia and sunnies, but now also between shia and shia and sunni vs. sunni, where thousands are now actually shooting it out in the streets of Baghdad and Karbala as I type this post (so far 50+ killed) and even Fallujah just returned to "the good ol' days!! Congrats to brave russian soldiers in helping protect the world from Islamic extremists and kudos in your reconstruction efforts there, Shame on the Israelies and other "Western interests" for supporting the criminal factions in Chechnya and trying to get a "Musharraf" or "Bandar" ahole to run that district as another Bush butt-boy, to then cut off Russia's territory and siphon the oil in that region, lest we forget that Osama bin Laden is a Washington creation!! or when Iran cut deals with Washington and Israel to supply death squad goons in my homeland Nicaragua during the eighties..
My hat off and a big hug to Mother Russia for helping us in our time of need and for giving us unbiased, human and warm solidarity, By the way, another huge thanks to genius Mijail Kalashnikov, his weapon is superb! My field issued AKM was a lifesaver and is main reason I'm here now able to make this post! President Vladimir Putin: Keep up the great work! Make Russia great again!!

An Appreciative Internationalist.
kalafan 07-Jan-2007 12:16
Holy shit, I'm talking about a conflict in the comments section of a gallery dealing with said conflict! Ain't that something!

I didn't get that phrase you quoted from anywhere except my own personal observance and a basic knowledge of history. Give me a list of countries that weren't involved in any wars (this includes "Peacekeeping Operations") during the 20th Century. That was a pretty quick list, huh? Name me one century in recorded history that saw no wars ANYWHERE. Was that list even quicker?

Chechnya's "war" is over, yes, but that will not stop the blubbering post-60s "intellectuals" from bitching about it for another five years. And what is this "Bush mentality" you speak of? Oh, I see! Its how the US inflicts the bulk of it's destructive tendencies outside it's borders, whereas Russia has the courtesy to keep nearly all of it inside it's own borders. None of this matters, though, as both our respective giants are still following the same basic path to self-decay at the behest of the same kinds of bosses. The Pro-Bush bigmouths criticizing Russia's Chechen Campaigns, and the Putinites downing the War On Terror, put together, have created one of the 21st Century's most laughable hypocrite squabbles thus far.
ramzan 06-Nov-2006 21:47
"I know your intent is good, but you're more or less asking the Human Race to stop having sex, because like sex, war is one of our oldest and finest traditions, baby."

No baby, whoever told you that was the one who never fought in any war.

Chechnya war is over. So let's stop with all this bullshit and look towards the day when all is good once more. If you have a George Bush mentality then take a look at Iraq and see how far that will get you. Take all this war bullshit and throw it in the bin.
kalafan 16-Aug-2006 21:30
Talk about a bunch of jerkholes ruining a perfectly good gallery. I'll bet all my money in the bank that none of the "My side rulz, your side SuX" guys have ever enlisted to fight in any army, be it state or rebel, and as for the neutral Peaceniks, I know your intent is good, but you're more or less asking the Human Race to stop having sex, because like sex, war is one of our oldest and finest traditions, baby.

If you'd like a quick summary as to why this whole shindig happened in the first place, someone WHO ACTUALLY FOUGHT THERE has a pretty good explanation here: http://www.lib.ru/MEMUARY/CHECHNYA/chechen_war.txt

It's a doozie of a read, though, so here's the excerpt of interest:

"Yet here, people lived by penitentiary laws for four years. We fed them
with money, supplied with weapons and taught how to use them. Then we sent
them to fight in Osetia and Abhazia for us, - like we are not even aware of
what's going on. And when there was no longer need for them, they should've
been eliminated, but no, - we tried to domesticate the Chechen. Yeah, right!
He turned against our Moscow gang. Why, though, should the whole country
suffer? We even came here from Siberia to break up the dogs. China is closer
to us than Chechnya. Then men from ZabVO, DalVO and TOF were dragged down
here too. They can walk to the States or Japan. One thing isn't clear
though. Why is it so that the rag-heads left the oil refinery intact? We,
too, were strictly ordered not so much as touch it. Here is our Air Force,
happily bombing the city's living quarters, but as for the Staropromyslovsky
part - no way.
"All of which means: the plant is somebody's property. Somebody who can
hush our Defence Minister and tell him specifically to leave it alone, - you
can level the whole town to the ground, but don't you dare ruining the
refinery. Of coarse, when Russian soldier is in rage, he's very difficult to
hold back, so too the rag-heads, not all are aware of the refinery's
importance. They naively think that they are actually fighting for their own
fucking freedom and don't get it, morons, that we are all simply taking part
in an ordinary criminal quarrel, very big though. One little baron decided
to screw The Big Daddy and start his own business. Then, Big Daddy sent his
own hood, the Russian Army, over, to bang the little fellow. But the baron
was a smart chap; he squalled with independence and sent his "bulls" in.
That's how the quarrel has begun. Now, no one can remember why the whole
thing started in the first place. The hoods are busy taking vengeance on
each other; meanwhile, their barons are making big bucks expropriating
salaries and pensions. The little one is pulling in Islamic World now, with
his cheap religious mottos. God, help us and forgive!"

With that out of the way, let me thank igor01 for posting all these picture here. I find the conflict rather interesting, and it's nice to have such a large archive of images all in one place. Good day.
ramzan 21-May-2006 11:19
Petruusha my friend your right! But just one thing! Russia is never going to nuke Chechnya in a million years so shut your sorry ass up and smell the coffee. Putin is putting resources into making Chechnya better now and we all know that this war was made all the worse by Russian snitches helping the Chechens as it was Chechens helping the Russians etc.

This war was bloody and ultimately pointless. Let's look towards the day when all the suffering is over and everybody is happy. All other people with other ideas should just shut the fuck up because peace is the only way forward.
ramzan 21-May-2006 11:15
Petruusha my friend your right! But just one thing! Russia is never going to nuke Chechnya in a million years so shut your sorry ass up and smell the coffee. Putin is putting resources into making Chechnya better now and we all know that this war was made all the worse by Russian snitches helping the Chechens as it was Chechens helping the Russians etc.

This war was bloody and ultimately pointless. Let's look towards the day when all the suffering is over and everybody is happy. All other people with other ideas should just shut the fuck up because peace is the only way forward.
Petruusha 14-Apr-2006 00:25
Ramzan my friend your right! But just one thing! Before that day comes. The chechen "landfield" will be blown off by a tactical Russian nuke.
Pavlo 09-Apr-2006 16:42
Åá âàøó ìàòü , êàê õîðîøî ÷òî âàøè ïîãàíûå ñëîâà íè÷åãî íå çíà÷àò - êàê äàâèëè ìû ýòó íåðóññêóþ ïîãàíü - òàê è áóäåì ïðîäîëæàòü. À àìåðèêîñàì ñîâåòóþ ó÷èòü ðóññêóþ èñòîðèþ - íèõóÿ íå çíàþò, à ïèçäÿò êàê óìíûå. Åñëè íå ðàçáèðàåøüñÿ â ïðåäìåòå - ëó÷øå ìîë÷àòü â òðÿïî÷êó. À ïðàâäà íà íàùåé ñòîðîíå è â íàøåé âåðå.
ramzan 24-Nov-2005 20:31
One day this war in Chechnya will be over and all the suffering for the poor, innocent people of Chechnya and Groznyy, and the poor, young Russian troops who have little choice but to fight will be well and truly over.
That day will be a blessed day indeed, as Chechens and Russians will live side by side in harmony and the world can put another of history's most terrible battles behind her.

That time will come, one day you'll see, when we can all be friends..
Lothar 28-Oct-2005 16:31
Vladimir, it's me.
Send me a message.
Guest 07-Oct-2005 05:23
Hope you choke on it.
Guest 07-Oct-2005 05:19
Hope you choke on it.
Guest 07-Oct-2005 04:03
Fuck all of you. Im gonna go get a big mac and a diet coke.
Guest 05-Oct-2005 18:40
I am British and on behalf of all Britons I want to say something to all the idiotic American and Israeli posters who think that they are justified in the wanton killing of people and their 'send in the army' approach..

Go fight your own battles and then go fuck yourselves.

Sorry for the language, but I am fed up with this war and listening to American/Israeli excuses for putting British lives at risk.
Fuck this war, and fuck all wars.. they only encourage killing. Get rid of Israel and lets be over and done with all this mess.
Guest 04-Oct-2005 04:08
fucking jews and americans fund and support the radical muslims against Russians and then have the nerve to turn around and say 'but we always thought you were the better..'

two-faced and no-friends is all i can say to you, loser..
now fuck off.
TO USA 04-Oct-2005 04:05
BETTER TAKE YOUR PROPAGANDA AND GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!

USA IS LOSING WAR IN IRAQ AND AMERICANS, JUST LIKE YOUR SORRY ASS, ONLY HAVE MEANINGLESS WORDS TO COVER THERE INADEQUACY.

AT LEAST VIETNAM WAS MANY YEARS AGO.. LOOK TODAY MORE TECHNOLOGY, POWER, WEAPONRY.. YET USA... STILL FUCKED.

WELL DONE TO RUSSIA FOR SIDING AGAINST ISRAEL!!
WELL DONE TO RUSSIA FOR SIDING AGAINST ISRAEL!!
Nimrod 03-Oct-2005 21:06
USA you are nothing but a Jewish-American propagandist so get your ass out of this forum.

Jews in Russia face the same persecution as Chechens so stop flaming the fire.. You want war with Muslims for an entirely different and seperate agenda(your own) so stop pretending you are part of the same cause. It's over. You have handed your lands back so it is time to shut the fuck up and accept you have no friends anymore and make the best of it. Even the Americans are no longer willing to stick up for you.

Watch your words these days because Israel can very easily be wiped off the map, and most countries these days couldn't really care less if that happened.
USA 01-Oct-2005 10:48
Interesting point about the Mongols, Vladimir…my grandfather emigrated from the Volga region when he was 5…his city, Morgenthau, was razed by the Bolsheviks after they generally collected all the weapons, shot the men, and stacked them in carts. Anyone who ‘says Russia sucks’ regarding Afghanistan is a moron…We Americans sent these mujahadeen how many billions in the latest technology arms, and they still were slaughtered like pigs….Much like our experience with the Vietnamese---by military standards we absolutely ‘cleaned their clock’.
When I see these young Russian soldiers fighting these monkeys in chechnya, I think of our young heroes, and just hope to G-d that they can slaughter these wahabist boy rapists everywhere in the world, from Iraq to Chechnya, like locusts flying into a cloud of DDT. I do think that we underestimated the Satanic/Satan worshipping nature of these Iraqis (sunnis and Shiites)---we do not truly know the extent of their depravity as a people and a society. The Kurds have worked out well, but the rest of them should be humanely euthanized at about 20,000 degrees Centigrade.
I am worried about Putin, sometimes…it is hard to trust this KGB man, and why in G-d’s name is he selling a reactor to iran??? I understand the business relationship, but we have to ‘see the forest for the trees’ and remember exactly who we’re dealing with…radical backstabbing islamists.
Vladimir, I agree that Russians are far ‘tougher’ than Americans in general, but everything ‘goes with the territory’. I disagree about our motives: we are fighting for energy, which is as important as bread….wars have been fought for salt, so you can not fault us. We are fighting an ideology far worse than any Communism. At least Communism was functional, produced high technology, scientific knowledge, went into space, etc….Islamism is only about plunder and barbarity. Like chasing down little girls in their own bedrooms and murdering them, killing an entire bus of children with knives (Israel) or what happened in Beslan. About facing “barbarians or the civilized rich soldiers”…that depends who you are, but I would rather face the barbarians because they can be dealt with technology, whereas you go against the civilized rich soldiers, your chance of survival is about nil.
Another thing: I can not understand the Russian proclivity for anti-Semitism…possibly due to the Cold War and Russia’s siding with islamic regimes. These relationships have tainted some Russian minds, in regards to Israel. It’s a pity, because the Jews have been fighting these islamist huns longer, harder and more valiantly than all of us put together. Americans and especially Russians have lost so much in the last century, fighting each other over corrupt ideologies such as Communism, Marxism, and siding with unsavory islamic arab regimes (US and Iraq against Iran, Russia with Syria/Iran against Israel and the West)…We need to make up for it in this century, and I’ll say that Russia has much more to gain than America.
10 01-Oct-2005 08:13
идите .. идут к черту российский империализм ..!!
9 30-Sep-2005 23:42
Blyat...vspomnish pro gavno, vot i ono :)
bloody soilder 30-Sep-2005 22:14
listten up all of you dumbasses quit fighting like babys ok
vlad back me up here
9 30-Sep-2005 17:45
First of all Nazism and Comunis are siamese brothers, they descent from the same coletivist ideia. The worl dont blame the Germans today because they ve renegade the nazism and no longer suport this crap. Otherwise Russians (not all of them) still stand for Comunism, like Putin a former KGB agent that rules the country with questionable acts. Meanwhile the comunism is growing in South America were im come from (I know you will call me black, but im not. you racist!) China and Russia still doing agressive politics agains its neighbours and has a giant network of international propaganda pro-comunism (that deny to the world to see the sufering of chechens and give hours of criticism about Iraq). So "99" shut your fuck big mouth and stop pretending that comunism is dead because it isnt. Comunists go to hell!
Gainsborough 29-Sep-2005 23:01
Communist USSR needed a mother Russia, Communism was only 14 years ago, and Nazi Germany no longer exists.
99 29-Sep-2005 21:12
"99 should shut the fuck up and stop pretending that communism never happened"

Communism did happen and I never said it didn't. Communism was a wrong thing to go by and I admit that as well al most Russians. Occupying Poland and the baltics was a mustake too but it's all in the past. Communist USSR occupied them, not Putin and not Russia so they should all shut their bitch asses up. Nazzi Geramny almost took over all euroasian continent, killed tens of millions..why aren't today's Germans being blamed for that ???
That's exactly why all Russians despise those lithuanians/latvians and polaki-golosraki pricks who harvest chechen terrorists ...
Cougar 29-Sep-2005 20:23

Russia has never exclusively been Christian Orthodox. It has also been primarily Jewish AND Islamic. In fact, Russia as a nation has been part of these religions for LONGER historically than it has from Orthodox so 99 should shut the fuck up and stop pretending that communism never happened.

What Russia doesnt owe to the Caucasus she owes to Poland or the baltics.
99 29-Sep-2005 04:53
"Im not a muslim, Im catholic "

You're either Polish then or from the baltics since you got so much crap to spill about Russians. If you are, that explains it all..i'll save my breath since you imbesols aren't worth my time. Russians are christian orthodox and always were during the tsars and still are. But you're right, communists didn't permit religion
9 29-Sep-2005 01:06
Im not a muslim, Im catholic. I know all comunists like you are atheists and dont belive in god. So go to hell all comunists and russian imperialism.
Guest 28-Sep-2005 22:21
Tell me if you're a muslim. Then I'll consider as how to respond to your comment "Get out of the land that isnt yours!!!"

Dont bullshit that Russian murdering chechen children was ever video taped or done deliberately. WAR IS WAR and casualties, even though unwanted are inevitable. But when your fellow terrorists were gunning down running children with a purpouse to slaughter them, that's not war-that's terrorism. Chechens are big time cowards who can only hide behind little kids, calling themselves freedom fighters. That's an arab technique that's common among you all. Nord Ost couldn't have been done better on the ALPHA team's behalf. It was the asshole medics that couldn't get the evac going.
9 28-Sep-2005 19:03
BABYKILLER??? and what about the babies killed by russia soldiers? there are hundreds!!!
many of them documented on video. and the mass graves?
In Beslan the russian troops managed the situation using the soviet method (heavy firepower) the same way they did in the theatre, ending the case before anyone had the chance to talk to the midia. Stalin wouldnt do better. I dont think that is right to do terrorism but the russian terrorism is bigger then chechen.
Get out of the land that isnt yours!!!
Guest1 28-Sep-2005 18:40
Glauben Sie Gast nicht.. der Mensch ist propadandize. .
Ne pas croire l'invité.. l'humain est propadandize.
¡No crea a huésped.. el humano es propadandize. .
Tro ikke gjest.. mennesket er propadandize.
не полагайте, что гость .. человек - propadandize ..!!
Guest 28-Sep-2005 18:29
Вы заставляете меня чувствовать себя настолько забавным..
Sie machen mich fühle so lustig..
usted me hace me siento tan chistoso..
e får meg til meg slik morsom..
vous me faites me sentir si drôle..
U maak mij voel zo grappig..
faz me sentir-se tão engraçado..
Guest 28-Sep-2005 06:48
guest, you're the disgrace for the muslim race ...
Guest 28-Sep-2005 06:41
"We are with u"

BABYKILLER !!!!
Guest 28-Sep-2005 06:41
"The Russians killers have no respect for human life"

Do you read the news at all?????

Slaughter of Beslan children done as murderers shouted “God is Great”, says theologian
http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=1501
Guest 28-Sep-2005 02:20
Stop the massacre the Chechens have the right of freedom
everybody says something about Iraq on TV news and nothing about Chechnya
The Russians killers have no respect for human life and people still talk about Abu Graib
The chechens heros are teaching a lesson to these comunists

We are with u
Mercury 27-Sep-2005 21:06
OK children its time to stop talking nonsense here.
Innocent people should never be killed, and neither Russians nor Chechens should be excused when they do it. The English have no time for Russia's cowboy tactics within the Chechnya, and that is why such documentaries are shown. The only message the world should be sending is to stop the killing of innocent. For when the world stops saying and believing in that, then we may as well all be savages.

PEACE IN THE CAUCASUS.
Guest 27-Sep-2005 10:49
ya ya..sorri my english is so bad..
i dnt like english..
you say we are terrorist..haha so funny.!

guest..we want life..give me a freedom..
stop to killing muslim..

ya i know.one day.my time will come..n you too..
Guest 27-Sep-2005 06:24
Hey guest go fuck your mommy, you chechen imbesol..stick to searching for your 72 virgins you sand monkey! Learn some english before coming here and barking at me. I DON'T hate all chechens, those who want peace I got nothing but respect for. But those like you are the ones we rap in pig skin and bury in pig shit...just wait asswhipe..your time will come...go to hell you terrorist scum !
Guest 27-Sep-2005 04:31
guest..u wnt to kill all cheche..haha.nothing lose out to our chechen..
did u can do that..?? u r so weak bastard..!!
one cheche be able VS 10 russ..just with an IMAN..
Guest 27-Sep-2005 04:11
hahaha guest..one day..jesus can't help u..
instead..hemself will be send u go to hell..
go to hell murderer..!!
Cougar 26-Sep-2005 22:51
When you consider how large Russia was I would say that says more about Russia than anywhere else. Mongols took over the Volga for many years, and had the area as one of their most important bases. The people who took back the Volga after many years were the Caucasians, because they were the original Cossacks of the time. Since then you will find that Mongols only respect those from the Caspian, and it was them who they vowed never to fight again. However, if any one thing should take credit for the demise of the strictly Mongol empire then it would be the Islamic faith, although it was more of an welcome integration than a takeover. That was when Mongols started believing Allah was greater than them, and so gradually became more humble, losing the will to maintain territory.

Russia owes everything to the Caucasus.
Cougar 26-Sep-2005 22:50
When you consider how large Russia was I would say that says more about Russia than anywhere else. Mongols took over the Volga for many years, and had the area as one of their most important bases. The people who took back the Volga after many years were the Caucasians, because they were the original Cossacks of the time. Since then you will find that Mongols only respect those from the Caspian, and it was them who they vowed never to fight again. However, if any one thing should take credit for the demise of the strictly Mongol empire then it would be the Islamic faith, although it was more of an welcome integration than a takeover. That was when Mongols started believing Allah was greater than them, and so gradually became more humble, losing the will to maintain territory.

Russia owes everything to the Caucasus.
Vladimir 26-Sep-2005 18:18
this is for the person who signed out as a geust saying early Russia was controlled by the mongols which is true, the mongolian empire of ghengis khan was the largest empire in all of history and owned many more countries rather just Russia so it doesnt say much about all countries under the control of the mongols, MUST i add that the Russians stationed on the Volga river (later to become Cossacks) were the first people to ever to defeat the mongolians and drove them out 1 by 1 back to mongolia, if you look at the 21st century map it clearly shows centuries we pushed the mongols farther inland than china and since kazakstahn was given to the Russian Cossacks as territory for the victory over them that land doesnt count
Vladimir 26-Sep-2005 17:53
this is for the person who signed out as a geust saying early Russia was controlled by the mongols which is true, the mongolian empire of ghengis khan was the largest empire in all of history and owned many more countries rather just Russia so it doesnt say much about all countries under the control of the mongols, MUST i add that the Russians stationed on the Volga river (later to become Cossacks) were the first people to ever to defeat the mongolians and drove them out 1 by 1 back to mongolia, if you look at the 21st century map it clearly shows centuries we pushed the mongols farther inland than china and since kazakstahn was given to the Russian Cossacks as territory for the victory over them that land doesnt count
Vladimir 26-Sep-2005 17:53
this is for the person who signed out as a geust saying early Russia was controlled by the mongols which is true, the mongolian empire of ghengis khan was the largest empire in all of history and owned many more countries rather just Russia so it doesnt say much about all countries under the control of the mongols, MUST i add that the Russians stationed on the Volga river (later to become Cossacks) were the first people to ever to defeat the mongolians and drove them out 1 by 1 back to mongolia, if you look at the 21st century map it clearly shows centuries we pushed the mongols farther inland than china and since kazakstahn was given to the Russian Cossacks as territory for the victory over them that land doesnt count
Cougar 26-Sep-2005 04:03

Josesph Stalin?

http://www.ericlee.me.uk/stalin.htm
Don't know about you but he looks pretty Caucasian to me.
And he's from Georgia..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin
as is his family so that can make sense.

Go do some google searching yourself, get some education.. maybe then you won't find it so difficult to continue reading.
Guest 26-Sep-2005 00:33
Russians retreated for same reason the Americans did in Vietnam, realizing that the invasion was a mistake. They'd have no problem staying there and keeping the job going. But obviously when you back out everyone says you lost, especially in islamic world..they always claim victory. That's exactly why Americans can not leave Iraq right now, Bush got himself in deep shit and he'll have climb hard. If they do leave Iraq, all the jihadi scum, including chechens and alquaida will think they can take on the world. I never supported the invasion but now that they're in..I hope they finish the job !

O'Toole, yes they did support the nazzis when the country was in bloodbath and we're not talking about POLAKI-GOLOSRAKI here..this is a different issue and got no relation to chechnya.

" The man who accused them of possible collaboration was a Caucasian"

OK, I stopped reading after that. I understand you mean Stalin ??? Go google search and do some reading on who Stalin actually was...
O'Toole 25-Sep-2005 22:10
Iraq was a mistake, but if Russia was so successful in Afghanistan then why retreat, leaving millions of dollars behind? The only reason Afghans lost so many lives was due to the carpet bombing of populated cities. Otherwise they outsmarted the Russian forces at each and every turn.
Chechens never backed Nazis. Hitler believed that the people from the Caucasus mountains were more Aryan than the Russians were, and so it was considered that they would do if the Germans reached that area but it never happened. The man who accused them of possible collaboration was a Caucasian, so Russian snitches should shut the fuck up about Nazi business, they collaborated with them themselves over Poland remember..?
Guest 25-Sep-2005 20:18
Vedeno, you can not compare Iraq and Chechnya and how the countries go fighting about it. Iraq WAS a mistake, another one of Bush's techniques left from the Reagan's cold war to maintain order and belief among his people, "fighting the axis (ex Sov. Union)" or today is known as "libiration of suffering nation in the name of freedom". Chechnya IS a doestic issue and many of you dont seem to understand it. If chechnya is let go then all Russian terretories will claim independence. Second, chachnya was always Russia's biggest problem in the caucasus, going back to WW2 where chechens were backing nazzis.
Success of Russia in chechnya would in no way yelld if Americans were to fight there. Many of you keep comparing Soviet Afghanistan to American and how the soviets lost. 15000 Russians to over 1000000 jihads killed, given that practically all the western world supported them, both with hardware and money. Russians were kicking their ass on their own ...do tha math.
Godspeed 25-Sep-2005 18:57
Good words Vedeno. Polls show that the majority of Americans think that the war in Iraq was wrong, bringing them in line with all other nations over the world. Russia no longer has the Islamic terrorist argument for what is essentially a breakdown of diplomatic relations. Now the world has all rallied behind the Chechens it has become clear that Russia needs to seriously rethink their policy, and do it fast.
Vedeno 25-Sep-2005 18:02
if an army like russian army cannot control a territory, even a small country like Chechnya and destroy commit massacres, genocie like in that horrible war against Chechens that means the war is lost, the Chechen war is the result of the end of soviet order, russian people ignore the reality of that genocide and their own government controlled by former-KGBists ... USA are really the most powerfull nation now but the commit the same mistakes in Irak, but it doesn't mean thatin the future they won't change their policy, hopefully they have enough intelligent politicians and PR specialist, unfortunately Russia do not build but only destroy that's the diffenrence between toda'ys Russia and the USA ...
A last remark: all disgusting remarks/post written by all kind of extremists here show that human being is not ready to accept evolution and reality

It's a big shame for the Russians because they do not realize that this horrible and disgusting war, that genocide concerns them directly and that will be a real nightmare for next generations ...
Guest 25-Sep-2005 05:53
God bless our soldiers for cleaning our land from islamic parasites !
Guest 25-Sep-2005 02:12
120,000 russian VS 6000 chechen.. so shame..embarrassed..!!
Guest 25-Sep-2005 02:01
vladimir.. why dont you say russian r lost by chechen..
people with the small land..n they hv a IMAN..!!
Guest 25-Sep-2005 00:53
Sorry to break it to you Vlamimir, but Russia LOST to the Mongols. In fact the greatest majority of their empire was in the heart of Russia. Even after the Mongols, other tribes including Khazars from the Caucasus ruled all of Russia complete so think again on what you know.
American troops were always getting fucked in classified missions because they are so dumb. Now they can add the Iraq war to their long list of failed battles.
English Raffles 24-Sep-2005 18:51
TO USA SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU AMERICAN PIECE OF SHIT!!! NOBODY CARES FOR YOUR OPINION YOU BOUGHT TERRORISM TO BRITAIN WITH YOUR 'ALL IN IT TOGETHER' ATTITUDE. GO AND FIGHT YOUR OWN BATTLES - YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN FROM HERE..
WHY DONT WE ALL STOP AMERICA REGARDLESS OF COST IN EUROS OR HUMAN COLLATERAL DAMAGE??
THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE HOW FUCKING AMERICANS LIKE THE SHOE ON THE OTHER FOOT.

FUCK YOU AMERICA.. I HOPE YOU GET FUCKED AGAIN REAL SOON!!!
Vladimir 24-Sep-2005 18:17
for all those americans who say Russia sucks because we lost in aphganistan , what other war in our 1000 year history have we lost, america lost to russia many times, shores of cuba, forests of vietnam, north korea, and so many classified missions the americans got their asses handed to'em around the world, its sad to see the great forces in all of history that conquered all of europe (Ghengis Khan, Napolean, Hitler) in weeks lost in hours to just 1 country...Russia, ultimately Russia is greater than all european countries combined since the force that over took them was defeated and no country in the world can match that. More than half of Russia still consists of most villages that require basic survival skills, that is why it is easier to kill and torture enemies because their is no consistant supply of food, like that of our ancestors fighting to every death to conquer ports for food and supplies, the same concept can be done with the Russians of today, fighting for survival. Its so easy for American soldiers to make rules in warfare...because they grewup with food on their plates civilized all their life. Who would you fear more if you were opposing either country, the barbarians or the civilized rich soldiers? American soldiers are like Roman soldiers, fighting for money and nothing more, the Roman empire is just like America, most romans looked at themselves as the country they emmigrated from, just as Americans today waving their irish/italian flags
USA 24-Sep-2005 10:13
You guys all need another ten years worth of maturity and loss of testosterone...While my country, the USA, is the greatest on Earth, all things considered, I will not speak ill of our fellow Christian shooters. I pray for the souls of the Russian soldiers keeping the islamic monsters at bay. I pray for the English and our European allies. Let's face it, we are all facing the same enemy: radical islam. period. We can talk smack about each other all day long, but what a waste, when we should collaboratively focus on this enemy. I've been to Moscow, and it is a beautiful city with family-oriented wonderful people. A person just sees one of these Chechen slaughter videos of defenseless, disarmed GI's, and there is no doubt about the true nature of this monstrous hoard of an enemy that makes the Mongols look like Sesame Street...and what must be done with them, regardless of the cost in dollars or collateral human life. We are all in this together, and we need to start focusing...more action and less talk.
Guest 24-Sep-2005 09:53
In this war, due to the so-called "free world" anxious with the world export of democracy, Russia has finally lost fear before mass liquidation of Chechens and its own people. Every day in the Chechen Republic the criminal Russian regime kills and cripples hundreds of people. Thousands of Chechens are tortured and killed in prisons and concentration camps in all territory of Russia . The purpose of this policy is clear and Putin does not hide it. “At any cost” – this is a citation from Putin, taking into account this difference in amount of the population and sizes of the territories "to win", that is, to destroy people of the Chechen Republic . Simply to grind it in millstones of the war for the time, which will be given to them by the silent world accomplices.
Guest 24-Sep-2005 09:45
What Russian soldiery does in the Chechen Republic is not only a crime, but also the greatest insult for each person. It is impossible not to feel a painful shame everyday for that nothing is done for the people, who before the eyes of the whole world are methodically exterminated by the gone mad Putin's gang. For the people, who are a legal member of the community of nations, to whom the God gives the same rights, as to other peoples.
Chris 24-Sep-2005 03:20
TIME FOR AMERICANS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP IN HERE WE HAVE SEEN YOUR VERSION OF DEMOCRACY - MOVE ON STUPID PROPLE!!!
Hogan 24-Sep-2005 03:18
I KILL ON MUSLIM KILLER!!! FUCK YOU AMERICAN YOU LOSE EVERYTIME JUST LIKE YOU ARE ABOUT TO BE GONE WITH THE WIND!!
Max 22-Sep-2005 22:36
That documentary was true. Many acts of terrorism committed by Russian forces. They need to clean there act up before Europe goes over to start kicking some ass.
qwer 21-Sep-2005 21:15
Has anybody seen a documentary "Chechnya - the dirty war"?
What do you think about it? It looks like there is a genocide as in the best years or nazi german regime. Or is it just biased against Russians?
Guest 21-Sep-2005 17:27
kill all russian terorist..!!
gud for american and british..
Guest 21-Sep-2005 17:20
haha..ur so stupid..fkin..idiot..bodoh..celaka..go to hell..bastard..!!
operatsinye dus ruskie yo favrozkh un cecen guzyakh nos zhak..
no thaks..no horeey..no yahoo..evrything not gud to russ..
go to hell murderer.!!
Watcher 21-Sep-2005 15:43
Thank you for this photo gallery. Everyone is talking only about Iraq and no one says a word about the terror for terror policy of Russia in Chechnya. The world should know! Thank you again.
Guest 20-Sep-2005 03:39
Do you British idiots realise that if it were not for the Russians half of you wouldn't exist, and you'd be speaking German!? Russia saved the WORLDS ass in World war 2. Russia deserves the most respect out of every god damn country. America started the cold war because it felt inferior to Russia, and was threatend by it. So America made nuclear weapons to hide behind like the pussies they are. Therefore Russia retaliated. All of this bullshit was sarted by America and Britain, and all because you fuckers couldn't say "Thank you for saving EVERYONE Russia."

Piss on your graves. The world owes Russia nothing but gratitude.
Guest 18-Sep-2005 06:56
un strojhk!! ambros du ustimov la cosa farmozh un british..un ameriki..un russi..gunya stropper miltriyev mostov!! Li ingria favrozor ki iprsi un...
Cris Tean 16-Sep-2005 01:26
Please, anybody who saw how the Americans behaved after that flood will understand that Americans certainly don't practice what they preach. Americans should quieten down. If liberating powers have to do such that they have to invade a country and kill in order to achieve their message, then it couldn't have been that good in the first place. Somebody should have given them this one instead: STOP WAR IT DESTROYS LIVES.
Denton 14-Sep-2005 17:09
everybody in england knows american men never get laid over here. in fact, english women hate american men as much as the guys do. england is the mother of america, they speak our language and so they should all shut the fuck up.
Jack L. 13-Sep-2005 22:05
USA could kick Russias ass, and we will, very soon..
muslimkiller 13-Sep-2005 21:31
This Branning duechbag is pissed-off because the only guys getting laid in England are Americans. At this time of day he's probably comming down from his tea fix. Go brush your teeth.
muslimkiller 13-Sep-2005 21:29
This Branning duechbag is pissed-off because the only guys getting laid in England are Americans. At this time of day he's probably comming down from his tea fix. Go brush your teeth.
bloody soilder 13-Sep-2005 20:38
Shut the fucck up both of you
HOOAH....! 13-Sep-2005 16:24
Lets see if I remember correctly you COCK SUCKING LIMEYS did invade AMERICA and got your asses kicked out both times....! LIKE I SAID THE FIRST TIME, ANYTIME ANYWHERE. Piss on you and your Fucking QUEEN AND KING AND THE REST OF YOUR FUCKED UP ROYAL FAMILY......!
I guess you are just too FUCKING stupid to learn. Oh and what about AFRICA and IRELAND. So shut the fuck up. You boys (BOYS IS THE RIGHT WORD) When you boys grow up and you might stop having these fantisy of greatness....!

GOD BLESS THE USA, RUSSIA, IRELAND AND THE REST OF THE FREE WORLD.

NO NEED TO BLESS THE LIMEYS THEY ALREADY THINK IN THEIR OWN SMALL MINDS THEY ARE THE BEST (WHAT A FUCKING JOKE THAT IS.....!)
Branning 13-Sep-2005 13:47
FUCK AMERICA!! I HOPE OUR BRITISH BOYS INVADE AMERICA AND KILL EVERY ONE OF YOU AMERICAN FILTHY PIECES OF SHIT!!
HOOAH....! 13-Sep-2005 01:16
Suck Dick...! you Limey Bastards. You would be answering to Hitler if it was not for the US Army. We are still the best and would kick your asses in a heart beat anytime anywhere.
CSM Jenkins 12-Sep-2005 23:09
The American army is corrupt, and have lost all respect in the world as a formidable fighting force. The British army, however, have consistently shown their competancy in Iraq. In the south region of Basra, the Iraqis actually welcomed British troops with open arms and even the terrorists have said that under the circumstances, the British have acted with great respect. The Americans continue to use illegal tactics which bring shame on us all, and they are also the ones who are responsible for putting British lives at risk in this over-publisized and immoral war. They should be brought to account and made to pay for their crimes. The world should come together and make sure America is never allowed to instigate another conflict ever again.
british soldier 11-Sep-2005 14:38
russian army is shit they got there ass kicked in afghanistan(the mujahaden were trained by the sas) and they getting the shit beat out of them now.there army is poorly equipped full of little boys who couldnt fight a fly.the british army is recognised around the world as the best.if we were bigger we would kick the fuck out of russia.....ps i hate the american army to it is full of gun-ho teenage wankers who piss themselves under fire
Osny 30-Aug-2005 10:52
À âîç è íûíå òàì.
Ò400 30-Aug-2005 07:38
ýò ìîé áîðòîâîé íîìåð.... öàðñòâî íåáåñíîå ÁÒÐó....
Òàê æå Ò163 Áìä-2.... ýêèïàæ ïîòåðÿí.....
T400 30-Aug-2005 07:35
ß êàê òî áûë íà ïåðâîé, æàëü ÷òî ñåé÷àñ íå ñìîãó.......
Reeny 29-Aug-2005 01:05
Существует легенда: когда Бог делил землю между народами, горцы устроили пир в его честь и поэтому опоздали к началу. Тогда Бог дал им землю, которую оставил себе, - Кавказ.
Osny 28-Aug-2005 14:53
То, что Вы делаете от этого = ваш выбор, OMOH
Reeny 25-Aug-2005 22:37
2Vladimir,
Sometimes war is inevitable, but it is always after the worst wars when people look back and see just how easy it was to be avoided.
I hope you see the significance.
The majority of the Chechen people never wanted a Roman Empire, just their own lands back.
Regarding 300 years.. the same could be said of Russia; both sides have had more than their share of reasons to stop fighting.

Perhaps the Chechens are plunging themselves into annihilation, but when you have lost absolutely everything, its always going to feel like you're already there anyway.
Osny 25-Aug-2005 21:46
Yes.
bloody soilder 25-Aug-2005 21:39
i want to try something it might not work so here gose
Âû ïîíèìàåòå? ñêàæèòå äà åñëè òàê
Vladimir 24-Aug-2005 22:37
Nice follow-ups to what I wrote. War is inevitable....no matter how much peace there will be in the world there will always be some 3rd or 4th world country looking to rise up out of the ashes and conquer everything and all, trying to be something of that like the Roman Empire era, and today in the beginning of the 21st century it seems one of those countries is chechnya, all I have to say is if you've been fighting for 3 centuries straight against the largest country in the world and your country is still the same size as when the war originally started over 300 years ago JUST GIVE UP, the chechens are only plunging themselves into annihilation, with the Russian military standing at a force with over 2.5 million in the Government Issued class and just over 4.5 million Registerred Russian Cossacks its clear chechnya does not stand a chance.
Osny 24-Aug-2005 22:15
Not necessarily..
The only thing the Chechnya war proves absolute is the results of human pain and a lack of understanding; nothing else. These things are much easier to repair than you might think.
By conceeding a bleak future all one does is merely create a self-fulfilling prophecy..

Throughout history old enemies have become best friends. Indeed this notion has become essential to the survival of human civilization.
One day the Chechens and the Russians will come to some sort of agreement that will be favourable to all, and soon the war will become but a memory.

When all is said and done, no human-being wants to experience pain, and it is that to which they are fighting for. You can label it holy war, or a war on terror; everybody's in it for their own different reasons, and it all comes down to the fact we have bullshit leaders who should know a lot better.
bloody soilder 24-Aug-2005 20:41
but sadly there will never be peace in our life time for there will always be rebels how cause problems
Osny 24-Aug-2005 16:44

It is commendable of you to finally change tact, Bloody Soilder, and
perhaps it is time we made friends..

So, Peace to you; Peace to Muslims; Peace to Christians; Peace to Russia; Peace to Chechnya; Peace to the Caucasus; Peace to Serbia; Peace to Bosnia; and Peace to everybody who ever felt the wrongings of a futile conflict.

Over and out.
Tuscot 24-Aug-2005 16:18
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Saladin.htm
Reeny 24-Aug-2005 15:42

We will never forget our blood, amongst the mightiest this world has ever known, and ever will know. Truly we are the warriors amongst warriors and men amongst men.

The rest of the world has to live this way. The Great Wars of last century brought so much suffering and so many tears that there was little choice but for the West to adopt a 9-5 mentality. For they are not warriors.

It is in their nature to be loving peoples, which is why when non-warriors go to war; it causes them the greatest amount of upset and personal discomfort.

Take a look at the nature of western Europe. The only time Western Europe ever conquered anything was during colonization, using guns and self-operated machinery to defeat weak and primitive peoples throughout the world, like those in Africa, Pacifics and the Americas. Even this exploitation bites back to this very day.

It is this very nature that meant that upon entering Russia, the Caucasus and the Middle East.. Western Europeans always knew their place. Getting defeated time and again, meant that they could only bestow respect and show fear of the highest magnitude. Hence we hear the legendary stories of the Cossacks defeating all, and stories of Aladin, who was responsible for more Western deaths than any other single figure in history, bar Hitler, being revered as a figure of respect, and is now remembered by children in a fairytale as an all-round nice guy, and Western hero.

Even the great Winston Churchill knew, after the Kurdish Ottomans refused to surrender to British forces, he was famously quoted as saying:
"I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against these uncivilized tribes, who know not of defeat and only know how to inflict pain."
And look to see now how the Kurds are favoured above all.

Your context of the Holy Book is incorrect, however..
Christ Himself told us of the teachings of the old scriptures being outdated for the new era that He was promising after His death and Ressurection.
Christ tells us on the Sermon on the Mount:
"But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also".
Matthew 5:39-40

Christ himself went through unimaginable pain when He was crucified, shaking the belief to the core of all those who thought pain was greater than human life and the Son of Man.
In the day of reckoning, Judgment Day, is when right will be seperated from wrong. That is the day when Christ, and our Father the Almighty will come down from the Heavens to pass judgment, taking on the role that we today like so much to incorporate as our own.

Christ knew the way, and he knew that retribution, no matter what shape or form it may come, is never the solution.
These are the true teachings of Christ.
bloody soilder 23-Aug-2005 16:03
@Osny i just don't want to have enemies
Vladimir 23-Aug-2005 00:13
russians and chechens do not carry out these hitious acts of humans slaughtering humans from pure joy, they do so only because of their lost loved ones over the centuries from the time of the first battles between these 2 argueing over who claimed the land first, when our grandfathers had nothing to lose and nothing to live for centuries ago they fought like barbarians (which they literally are), and knowing your grandfathers could carry out these acts only then can one do so in a modern era as the rest of the world lives on like hermit crabs thinking everything must be peaceful and work 9-5 jobs, russians, serbians, chechens fight like their grandfathers did. And for the person who wrote of the Russians not believing in christ because of the acts they carry out on the chechens, look at it this way, Christ himself speaks of forming an army against satan on earth the day of the apocolypse, the war of all wars will end human suffering and choose who will be in heaven and in hell, and as it states in the bible ""For everything there is a season, And a time for every matter under heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; A time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; A time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; A time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to throw away stones, And a time to gather stones together; A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing; A time to seek, and a time to lose; A time to keep, and a time to throw away; A time to tear, and a time to sew; A time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate, A time for war, and a time for peace. - Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8""
Osny 22-Aug-2005 17:30
2Georgian,

Do not talk with this Bloody Soilder. He has bought nothing to this site and wants to be friends. His loyalties and intentions are unknown. Let him either show himself through his words or simply ignore him.
Who does this imbecile want to befriend anyway?
Georgian 22-Aug-2005 17:13
What made you change your mind, OMOH?
bloody soilder 22-Aug-2005 14:32
lets be friends now
Freddie 21-Aug-2005 15:12
That time will come, one day you'll see, when we can all be friends..
Reeny 20-Aug-2005 10:00
Children, children, a little bit of decorum, please..
I ventured back onto this site to see whether or not people had calmed themselves down after lowlife americans came on here trying to stir up the situation..
Chechen peoples who war dont do so because they like it; but because they have lost their families, their loved ones.. just as most of the Russian soldiers who carry out their atrocities do so due to the loss they themselves have suffered.
Is this so difficult to understand??
Peace to all Chechens, and peace to all Russians..
For everything can only begin with a simple hope.
bloody soilder 19-Aug-2005 17:47
i didn't know html dosen't work

and i'm not an american
Raoul 19-Aug-2005 15:07
Excellent comment, exactly what I would have said.
Trent 19-Aug-2005 15:04
Bloody Soilder,
You post links that don't even work; you spell your name wrong and pretend that was what you intended..
Give me one reason why you should be here?
Other than you are american and love to read how you are getting shredded in iraq?
bloody soilder 18-Aug-2005 19:51
bite me
AJ 17-Aug-2005 03:10
Blooody Soilder,
Fuck off and take your bogus link away.
You are not wanted here.
bloody soilder 16-Aug-2005 16:54
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cLOistersL 14-Aug-2005 18:01

Very good, Vladimir, you show a level of understanding of the situation..

Now, the Cossacks originally emerged from the southern parts of the Caucasus.
They moved into Russia and kept themselves to themselves, leading their lives with a strong work-ethic and an ability to withstand anything the world could throw at them.

The original physical requirement of a Cossack was that you had to be a Caucasian, and there was no deviation from this.

Although later Poles, Turks, and other Russians were all accepted(and moreover wanted the Cossacks as part of their own), it is very important to realize that the Cossacks, were for the most part, probably more akin to the kind of lifestyle and communal mentality of the Caucasians of today.

You mention the Cossack's influence in the 19th and 20th Centuries, which naturally was very profound; but it is also important to realize that the Cossacks were around from long before then, and have always been the best.

But let's not get carried away here, not everyone could become a Cossack; they still always maintained a certain sense of indentity. If you were Christian, and met the requirements, but didn't look 'Caucasian' enough, you would not be accepted, and this was shown by the number of nationals from other nations who were flat out refused entry.

Ironic that most of the things we think of as being Russian, ie the famous dance, the attire, and the ability to almost unlimitingly drink alchohol, were all originally brought to the world by the Cossacks!!

Cossacks will have their time, once more, though. And I believe that a revival of sorts will help bring the people of southern Russia together with the rest of European Russia again.
Vladimir 10-Aug-2005 23:46
I cannot argue with you there about the Russian Cossacks giving the motherland the respect it has today, though I added the qoute Napolean made of them, Hitler would've also if he had known stalin used them in Stalingrad. When he was desperate to defend his city he called for the Cossacks scattered across Siberia and signed a contract with them saying he'll give them back their land and military service if they won the city....obviously the first city to ever defeat the nazis was stalingrad and its obvious the poorly eqiuped and demoralzied Soviet troops didnt win it alone, some people do know stalin called for reinforcements from the far east of Russia but they dont clarify who in many cases, if you search deep within soviet military files you'll see that they clarified themselves as Russian Cossacks most of which leftover from the revolution, but since the communists despised cossacks they took the credit and stalin refused to give them land nor military service like he promised. It is clear the only persons that should take the credit for the respect Russia has today are the Cossacks, and why I said Russia fights for Orthodoxy is because back then the only thing you needed to believe in was "christ" in order to become a cossack and as long as you met the physical requirements it did not matter where you were from, manpower with brotherhood meant everything
Vladimir 10-Aug-2005 23:40
I cannot argue with you there about the Russian Cossacks giving the motherland the respect it has today, though I added the qoute Napolean made of them, Hitler would've also if he had known stalin used them in Stalingrad. When he was desperate to defend his city he called for the Cossacks scattered across Siberia and signed a contract with them saying he'll give them back their land and military service if they won the city....obviously the first city to ever defeat the nazis was stalingrad and its obvious the poorly eqiuped and demoralzied Soviet troops didnt win it alone, some people do know stalin called for reinforcements from the far east of Russia but they dont clarify who in many cases, if you search deep within soviet military files you'll see that they clarified themselves as Russian Cossacks most of which leftover from the revolution, but since the communists despised cossacks they took the credit and stalin refused to give them land nor military service like he promised. It is clear the only persons that should take the credit for the respect Russia has today are the Cossacks, and why I said Russia fights for Orthodoxy is because back then the only thing you needed to believe in was "christ" in order to become a cossack and as long as you met the physical requirements it did not matter where you were from, manpower with brotherhood meant everything
Cloisters 10-Aug-2005 09:52
Blood and sweat of your grandfathers??
That's exactly what is meant by the fact that the people who did the majority of the fighting for Russians were the Caucasians and the Ukranians!!!!!!!!!

Still, it's pleasing to see that you realize it is the Caspian Cossacks who give you any form of self-respect as a nation.

ps
I hate to break the news to you, but not every Slav is an Orthodox, by any stretch of the imagination.
Might come as a shock, I know, but somebody like you must surely have got used to it by now.
Cloisters 10-Aug-2005 09:31
Blood and sweat of your grandfathers??
That's exactly what is meant by the fact that the people who did the majority of the fighting for Russians were the Caucasians and the Ukranians!!!!!!!!!

Still, it's pleasing to see that you realize it is the Caspian Cossacks who give you any form of self-respect as a nation.

ps
I hate to break the news to you, but not every Slav is an Orthodox, by any stretch of the imagination.
Might come as a shock, I know, but somebody like you must surely have got used to it by now.
Vladimir 10-Aug-2005 03:35
For the sweat and blood of our grandfathers who fought till every death and battle wound till victory over defeat, muslims do not realize who the true god of all gods is, every slavic nation stands their ground for Orthodoxy, pray the true way and fight the true way, there are no rules in warfare, Russia was never a rich nation, but always true to its words in times of warfare, our enemies go down in defeat only to respect and qoute our fighting in the end "If I had the Imperial Russian Cossacks in my army I would rule the world with them, they are the best cavalry among all who exist" - Napolean 1812 "The fiercest fighting in all the war I've seen yet are in the farm lands of Ukraine, and we've yet to reach the outskirts of Russia" - Adolf Hitler WWII, who was first to defeat the largest land empire in all of history, Russia Cossacks stationed on the Volga against Ghengis Khan soldiers, who was first to introduce barb wire in warfare, Russians in the northern islands of japan which we still own into the 21st century, SLAVA ISUS Glorify Christ, for only the christian religion speaks of Satan in the Gospel, Satan himself spoke of our God is the true God of all Gods, that is how he became satan for attempting to overthrow God from his thrown when he was an angel of God, soon afterward he was thrown from heaven and down to earth until which he will be walk until the Apocolypse between Heaven and Hell, it all makes sense, as it states in the Gospel to "stand your ground", Russia ultimately is a crytal clear image of that proverb against false gods and will continue winning wars till the end of human civilization on its own soil.
Krajek 06-Aug-2005 13:46
Interesting.. So obviously, Serbs also need to take a long hard look at themselves.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Sarmatians
AI 06-Aug-2005 13:37