I went to Ison's nursery in Georgia (about 320 miles from home) to get some potted vines as replacements for some vines that died. I have had to replace about 10 Ison and 19 Supreme. This time I used the whole bambo stake to hold the Blue X shield and give the vine something to grow on. I like this better than using the string and if I have enough stakes, I will do this to all plantings next year.