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"Jyllands-Posten" Mohammed cartoons

First of all, you can find and watch the Geert Wilders film on Islam here (if you wish to do so, don't be told what to watch and especially what not to)

http://www.groepwilders.com/

Please note: This is not a coward, anonymous posting,unlike most comments here. My name is Daniel Apostol, I live near Zurich, Switzerland, check the rest of my page, there are plenty of pictures!

I republish these pictures here to support Denmark and the rest of the free world, the freedom of press, speech and expression, the Jylland Posten (which political views I do not necessarily share) and all other media which published them.

But first and foremost I republish them here as a deliberate act of defiance and protest against the radical and violent Muslim reactions and against the pathetic appeasement attempts by way too many Western politicians (lead by Germany's very own Claudia "Islam means Peace" Roth, leader of the green party) which only beget more violence and hate!

I am obviously aware, that the big protests in those Middle Eastern countries and Iran and India have little to do with religious feelings and are sparked and nurtured by their corrupt and tyrannical governments in order to channel their people's aggression and frustration with their own leaders. Most people protesting in e.g. Egypt and Syria have never seen the actual pictures, nor can they tell the difference between the Danish, Swiss or Austrian flag which they so eagerly burn. I just pity them as little more than sheep, kept stupid and abused by their power mongering masters. Just check out these two Pakistani ladies to see what I mean:
http://www.n-tv.de/634520.html

The reactions of people living here in the West I find much more concerning.

To see how well this terror toward criticism works, read this article on how open discussion is shut up in the Netherlands after the Theo van Gogh murder or in England after after the 7/7 Tube bomings:
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-2058502,00.html
That is the short film "Submission" Theo van Gogh got murdered over (or look for submission on youtube):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7106648073888697427

The violent riots last year even forced France' former strong man Chirac to back down this time (1995 nuclear tests anyone?):
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/archive.php?id=20060210

Our price of freedom of speech and expression is to endure things like this:
Video of London Anti Caricature protest, 3rd of February
http://www.nefafoundation.org/video/protest.wmv

I do understand that some of the pictures here may be offensive to some people but they will have to learn to live with this, as Christians (or Jews for that matter) have to live with Monty Python's "Life of Brian" or the ten times more offensive Walter Moers' "Es ist ein Arschloch, Maria!".
http://www.pbase.com/dan_muc/moers

Even in Islam there seem to be or at least were plenty of depictions of the prophet, have a look at this. This page has a good overview and several more links to the subject.
http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/islamic_mo_full

Wikipedia's list of all newspapers which printed the pictures. If there should be a boycott against all these countries, they will find themselves surrounded by goat's cheese and flatbread in their supermarkets pretty soon, not to mention the famous Middle Eastern built cars... these days they can't even breed their own goddamn camels...:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2038834.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_that_reprinted_Jyllands-Posten%27s_Muhammad_cartoons

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Es ist ein Arschloch, Maria! and other (Anti?)-Christians blasphemies...
:: "Es ist ein Arschloch, Maria!" and other (Anti?)-Christians blasphemies... ::

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Daniel Apostol 19-Mar-2009 19:25
@Iqbal,

how does it feel to be a useless, coward piece of feces? You really should know and I am sure a lot of people would be interessted.
I am not even making an argument, for that, see my postings below.

All I can say to you is: Bring it on, coward! You have my full name, plenty of pictures and know what country I live in!
Iqbal 18-Mar-2009 18:05
Daniel ,soon you will go to hell.

Trust me Devil.
huzy 26-Jan-2009 17:13
To Daniel Apostol
after having studied many religions, i can safetly say that this discussion may very well bring you fame, but please understand, this life we live in is nothing more than a temporary isolation from the truth, whichever religion we follow, it doesnt teach us to oppress other individuals or religion. please understand for a muslim his faith is not complete if he doesnt follw the teachings and the prophets of the jews and christians, its just that islam went on further beyond the time of jews and christian because the jews and christian were diverting away from the oneness of god.by condeming islam, u are indirectly condeming your own religion.i could go on, but just to sum it up, life is too short to point fingers, rather spend time focusing on important things in life. put it this way, a lion if pushed into a corner, wouldnt just sit and wait to be attacked, it would retalliate by attacking back because of survival. thats whats happening to islam, perfect example...GAZA. u may choose to understand or just toss it aside, but please we only die once, lets make it worthwhile, inevitably it will be our chance to have our soul pulled out of us, at that point our whole life may flash passed but it`ll be too late. important!!! do your own research dont follow media.....god bless
American Infidel 12-Dec-2008 00:23
I'll stand by your principles, if you can't make fun of everyone
then there is no hope
Daniel Apostol 19-Sep-2008 10:11
@abdirahmaan
I really can't be bothered anymore, everything I have to say about this has been said or written, so I will make this one brief:

Screw You, sod off, eat dirt and die!

ps. my last request contains three euphemisms, can you spot them?
abdirahmaan 18-Sep-2008 20:41
your civilised sorrounding never had any impact on the way you behave with your fellow mankind[muslims].you showed the degree of hatred in your heart,but believe you me,it will haunt you.or rather you will suffer one day sooner or latter,whether by a Muslim hand,and if you scape and death grabs you then it is Allah's torment ready for your filthy body.keep living before you meet suffering.
Daniel Apostol 11-Sep-2008 23:13
Hello Namig or by your "real" name islamli (has anyone ever mentioned to you, that this can be easily confused with "salami" ?)

but anyway, thank you for taking an interest, but I swear, I have no idea what you are babbling on about.
I hope not too many people will call you, or come around to arrest you, we wouldn't want to disturb your neighbours (me, and Bush W that is)

Well, if nothing else, your post certainly proves, that even in the most backward muslim countries (where the heck is Baku anyway? you do have long phone numbers there, for a start) the most retarded people have internet access. Which should be a good thing, well, kind of.

Daniel
Namig 10-Sep-2008 22:37
You are the worst creationsh-I revenge muslims blood you will see (Madonna song-listen)
Most of your mothers were fucked hardly befoire your dadies but in Islam it is not like that

My real name is Namig(Enigma) surname is islamli-I live in Baku in the capital of Baku-Please aresst me if ypu can my home phone 994 012 479 22 99
I promise i will revenge bush w and all of you who as a baswtarxs kill muslims
tell taht son of a beach whose mother saw many diks before his dadies i mean who draw cartoon of prohet W i will revenge him-i promise you that (quote from Elton Jhon song Bless)
You can call me Silent Warrior(song by Enigma listen)
Monika(Namik) Belucci
Daniel Apostol 26-Aug-2008 19:11
to Adil,

If you had spent only half a minute reading what I said in the introduction above, you would have realized that this is the stupidest thing anyone has written here in the last 2.5 years, and that is a pretty stiff competition...
adil 25-Aug-2008 13:51
for this word allah punish you hold ...but you have an other chance : be a muslim....thing about this ideas....
Daniel Apostol 13-Aug-2008 18:18
to "Ejaz":

that is interessting coming from someone of a cultural backround which generates the most searches for underage and animal pornography (I haven't quite decided which is more disgusting)
if you don't believe me, check this, the google search stats:
eg. Pakistan generates more interest for "goat sex" than the rest of the world together:
http://www.google.com/insights/search/#cat=&q=goat%20sex&geo=&date=&clp=&cmpt=q

on "child sex" Pakistan makes a close second to Bangladesh, which is also kind of Pakistan, if I remember my History correctly

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#cat=&q=child%20sex&geo=&date=&clp=&cmpt=q

want me to go on?
Ejaz 11-Aug-2008 09:10
A Muslim!

Hey u jews ...or whatever blah blah u r...
what are you???
technology geeks? or whatever. I heard ur ladies eat s**t in front of cams and your men fuck their own mothers and sister :( thats really sad!
Your are just faithless and not humans.

we just don't bother whatever you say or think in your filthy brains... drop the wine and look into the mirror man! you are horrible.

Please feel free to contact me.
Daniel Apostol 12-May-2008 11:02
to the last "guest"
thank you for your thoughful and eloquent comment. I dare say, I am already shaking in my little boots. Hell, uhhh, ohhhh.... It does say a lot about people like you, you small minded, pathetic person.
Guest 08-May-2008 23:41
Daniel Apostol, you are just another SHIT HEAD that will burn in HELL forever. Take it from me, you will definitely will you dumb cock head idiotic imbecile!!
lifeboat 22-Apr-2008 07:52
Mutual respect is the hallmark of a civilized society. If you cant do this, then, no matter who you are or what you do, you are not fully-civilized although you may have lived in a civilized surrounding. I am a Malaysian and a couple of days ago the authority suspended a Tamil daily newspaper for publishing a carricature of Jesus Christ smoking a cigar. I really wonder what would happen if a newspaper from a Muslim country, in the name of freedom of expression, were to publish cartoons depicted Jesus Christ, or David or Solomon pissing on the Bible or on Torah or fucking some prostitutes or etc.
I find it somewhat strange while many people in this world are working towards peace for all races and believers of every religions and brotherhood among citizens of the world, they are some uncivilized politicians, writers, cartoonists and others who prefer to create more hatreds. Maybe it is solely due to their natural uncivilized minds.
Asuhendra 06-Apr-2008 18:03
freedom of speech means burnt death like Jyllan ??

well .. all of christian and jewish are hyprocating their self,

it's a pitty
Daniel Apostol 18-Mar-2008 16:50
to dumbass bachir:
Another threat, how lovely. That of course proves ME wrong and makes ME look like an idiot. Please, you have my details, bring it on and stop boring me with you intellectually challenged writing. I will be delighted to send you to your 72 donkeys or what it is you are after you sad little looser.
dormane bachir 17-Mar-2008 17:03
our profet is too much better than you think.But we'll meet one day.don't appologize.It'll be a hard day
Daniel Apostol 16-Mar-2008 10:28
Dear Ahmed,

thanks for replying yet again. You have to excuse me, I didn´t reply earlier, but I am on vacation, see, and I really couldn´t be bothered, even though I had ample time and opportunity.

anyway, let me comment on your last comment:

1. you didn´t read what I wrote, I said the last 500 years.
your pyramids add nothing to the discussion, as they were built by an ancient, pagan people, which you probably don´t share a single drop of blood with. And they were certainly not Muslim, quite the opposite.

2. for every Scientific Nobel price bearer the Muslim world has, the Jews have literally dozens (158, I think), if you take into account, how few Jews there are, they outnumber you in the brains department by 10000.

3. don´t start on sport with me, as I think it is utterly irrelevant here, but since you bring it up, Germany keeps winning the handball world championships, and in Football, I can´t recall a Muslim country passing into the quarters the last decades, and a couple of years back, the Saudis had their asses kicked by our team eight to ZERO.

Now, my challange still stands,
What technical innovations came from muslim countries the last, lets be generous, 500 years.
come on.

Daniel
Guest 06-Mar-2008 03:27
I believe in freedom of expression but at long as it does not go over somebody else's freedom. posting carrictures on a holy person that millions follow as their leader is offensive and an act of war in itself. War isn't just by weapons, but by the pen as well. How would you feel if a newspaper put corrupted carricatures of your mother. No matter how much you look up to your mommy, it does not match how much our prophet Mohamed it looked up to. You are in no position of critisizing those people protesting. They are offended so they protest, it's the right of every citizen. This is not freedom of expression, I call it offendive expression, an expression full of hatred and racism. I thought the western countries are based on equality and mutual respect of human rights, may be just on the agenda of non-profit organization newsletter. Know about Islam and their values then speak. Do not do so in ignorance. I pitty people like you who are true slaves of the media and true slaves of their own arrogance.
ahmed khalaf 05-Mar-2008 01:38
first of all the persones like you and the man who made this dirty cartoons are not famous and they will be in the garbage of history and prophet muhammed (p u h ) will stay in our hearts even what this dirty garbage did and you and them will be nothing and god will punish them wait after your death you and them will be in hill believe me you will see all of them with you in hill and you will fuel for the fire of god wait and wait and you will find your bitches mother and sister there also and all of your gays and dirty garbage like you and who do this really you all are poor
ahmed khalaf 02-Mar-2008 01:04
first of all you should know that i am egyptian so you know what is the meaning of egypt and egyptian .we have culture from 7.000 years ago for you and your country from 200 years you have nothing your country did not appear in the map of world and till now your country do not have any thing to be like us ask first about who built pyramids and ask about our scientest for exampel : ahmed zwiel (nobel prize)and magdy yacobe the first doctor in the world in heart surgery and faroak el baz space scientest in nasa and in sport we win africa cup in football handball and volly ball what did you have in your country etc
Daniel Apostol 01-Mar-2008 14:47
Ahmed,

thank you, first of all, for taking an interest, but you will not like, what I have to tell you now:

I would rather have my country run by bi-sexual cross-dressing transsexual fairies (no offense to those, sorry) than by the like of you!

look at what your great culture got you, look at the technical innovations of muslim countries the last, lets be generous, 500 years, there is NOTHING, ZIP, a big shit load of ZERO!!! You would certainly not be sitting at a muslim developed and build computer using a muslim developed and maintained Internet and spewing your venomous filth around the globe (meaning your religious views)!

if it was up to you and your high and mighty culture, we would still be riding donkeys (us meaning me, meaning the dimmys) and you be riding camels (you would have to import them from Australia of course, since you can´t even bread your own god damn transport these days)

god, I hate people like you, you ignorant, slave minded piece of refuse!!
ahmed khalaf 01-Mar-2008 04:17
you are very poor man because you do not understand islam but you know good will punish you and every one do nt respect prophets ,if you speak about freedom , is it freedom that men do sex with each other , you know we are clean heart than you ,you hate pepole , sorry iwill ask you if you know that your father is your father .and how many guys do sex with your free mother and sister in your country you do sex with animals with your sisters and mothers is it freedom to do this clean your sociecty from this dirty freedom and then speak about freedom alot of you in your country are gays
HANAN 28-Feb-2008 22:49
read the book about prophete MOHAMMED BUT WITH YOUR MAEN
Guest 28-Feb-2008 04:11
YOU ARE SHIT ASS HOLE
SUCK TO BE YOU!!!!!!

YOU ARE HELL SQUAD!!!
Guest 25-Feb-2008 13:04
The prophet would have needed some tongue twisters.
moe 24-Feb-2008 01:50
i think those people whome drawing these kinda stuff are pathetic and have nothing better 2 do so they started 2 make fun of the most important charecters of all times 'prophet muhammad 'who guided the biggest nation through out the history.
can't say more than that but those guys need 2 educate themselvs more 2 know what prophet muhammad is all about
Daniel Apostol 15-Feb-2008 09:02
Dear Dani,
as I understand you basically agree with me on the issue (or do you?), but you don't like my last comment.
If you read my older comments down below, you will notice, that a lot of them are much more moderate. I just got really frustrated over the course of the last 2 years with all these fanatical idiots, and the time for compromise and discussion for me is over!
I have never been so sure about anything in my life before than with my stance on this issue. I have nothing more to say on this matter which has not been said before (many times, mind you).
People who disagree with me now just piss me off, and I let them know. And if they don't like it, they can take it up with me or get the hell out of my face.

Daniel
Guest 14-Feb-2008 11:14
We love our prophet Mohammed ( PBUH). He was the greatest and most influential person in the world.
Dani 14-Feb-2008 01:31
Funny world!!!
Single simple fact:
As Muslims, we do nothing to defend our primitive rights as humans,
we accept starvation, diseases, poverty, lowliness ...
We do nothing!
But if someone insult his MAJESTY!!!???
Funny world.
Well done Daniel
Note for Daniel: Your last comment was stupid (savage and aggressive).
amel 31-Dec-2007 08:55
i do not know is this the freedom u mean by affronting people their religions ,that the very nonsense , we get our selfs in this world differ in continents ,believes ,thoughts , religious and so on but never mean to trespass in any of one i mentioned , that the primitive in the people minds and its too dang rouse when educated and civil man treated things by this way .this all i can say to express about this situation
Daniel Apostol 08-Oct-2007 21:04
Dear "p.a" (what kind of a name is that anyway, "proud arab", I really don't know how much longer I will put up with this anonymous coward crap)

I will make it brief, there are different standards of what is acceptable in different parts of the world. Mocking religion belongs to the acceptable things in the secular west, if you can't live with this, get the f**k out of here and back where you belong, bloody slave (with slaves I am referring to your mind set)! There the judging and thinking is done for you by an 1400 year old stupid book and all you have to think about is how hard you beat your wife when she doesn't feel like getting raped that day.

screw you!

Daniel

Proud Arab 08-Oct-2007 15:20
Dear Daniel Apostol ,

I have read what you said to Abi , and i think you don't make any sense at all !
i'm very sorry but you don't, because you said and i quote : "We have a free press, and if they see it fit to make some pictures of some self-proclaimed prophet and some people don't like it, don't buy the damn paper."

This is not how the world runs, now tell, what if i called some black guy a nigger ?
would that get me arrested ? YES

i think i should run a free press too, that way i can say anything about anyone and nobody would do anything about it.


P.A
Humanist 02-Sep-2007 06:41
Somebody introduces Islam like brutality. All of the ages, christians and jews who afraid of the their material future haven't accepted last religion Islam.
Although our God is same, why everybody confuses our brains. Because this isn't about religion, everybody must be ready for Worldwar the third.
Maps will be changed...
Daniel Apostol 31-Aug-2007 11:36
Dear Abi,

first of all, I did not do all these images, I wish I did, but that honour goes to some Danish artists.

The whole point is, as I have said and written many times before (also above in the introduction which you doubtlessly haven't read), that I protest the reaction that came from the pictures.

If they were wrong and offensive (which I fiercely deny) then people could have staged a quite, dignified protest, write some letter (mind you, not letter bombs) to the editors and let it go after some days. That is how things are done around here (as you should be aware having been born and lived in Europe as you claim). That this is not what happened should be quite known.

We have a free press, and if they see it fit to make some pictures of some self-proclaimed prophet and some people don't like it, don't buy the damn paper. I could go on about this forever, but I've grown tired of stating the bloody obvious.

The whole thing made me agree with the following statements, sadly (I would not have done so up until February last year).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM9SYfqKNuA&eurl=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc

you can send the "thank you"-notes for this and the treatment you discribe to the gentlemen on the following picture:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Muslims.PNG
(cartoon protestors in London, Feb. 06)


all the best,

Daniel
Abi 30-Aug-2007 14:14
im a muslim, i have a lot of respect for all religion's of the world. i was born in europe, i have lived all my life here, all my friends are Christian/jews, or atheist. all i want to know is.. what did you gain by doing all these images? just made almost 2 billion of us sad? was it all worth it?

we were already being attacked everywhere as terrorists, we had to go throw checks each time in airports, we are stereotyped every time something happens.. Islam has not been around for 20, 30 years, we have been on this earth living side by side by all kind of people for past 1400 years.

we have feelings for everyone, we are humans just like everyone else.. but i just dont know.. why people dont understand.

all i would say is.. imagen urself in our shoe right now.. being attacked every time for wearing a scarf, for walking on a street having beared, for being a muslim in aiport, for being muslim and being in west.
Daniel Apostol 13-Aug-2007 14:20
Dear Jasica,

all I can learn from your comment is that apparently there are some Muslims offended over something. Now here's a bit of news, who ever heard of Muslims feeling offended, I shall make a note of that.

Apart from that quite incredible development, the meaning of your comment escapes me. Please write your comment again, but only with words which can be looked up here http://dictionary.reference.com) because I can't read Retard, sorry.


also try to add some grammar next time, more on that here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_grammar

I shall then read it again and shall honestly try to figure out what the heck you are trying to express.

thank you.

Daniel
Jasica 13-Aug-2007 04:05
i and all da ppl i kno agree dat dis is NOT right! we got muslim freinds who are deeply offended! my best freind is a Muslim, sh wuz cryin pple! don't ya hav hearts? does pple really care abt der image n value der relign we shudnt hurt dem like dat! i got som frends non muslim friends who startd 2 belv da pictures n took a bad imag abt da muslims dats wat hurts dem! plz ppl lets stand up 4 dem, if yo kno a muslim yo wudnt thnk dat of dem, day reallyyyyyy gooooood pple!
Ulugbek 17-Apr-2007 06:53
GUEST
You can tell bad,criticize or anythyng like this for Islam religion...but havent ever read Islamic books,have you ever lived just one day with Islam ?dont you ever think about who you are and why yo are living ? who created ?......of course Islam religion answers all questions ..Unfortunately ,some people (who are not Muslums)are showing Islam religion as badly while it is not like that ...and people think that the Islam is bad...Undoubtedly God created all universe ,world, humans ,...just think ,for ex a table ,table never made itself,but man makes it ,,,,and dont you think about how comlexly we are ,people ,our body ,..and think about stars ,nature.How can these things made.?who created..of course God ...and God sent Muhammaed s.a.v. to people to bring a peace ,to tell people about God...Muslims never criticize others ..but you are making a bit foolish thing (caricatures,cartoons)....one day yo will die ..(all of us will die) and you may be punished by God.. thats why be clever ..........
persone 24-Mar-2007 13:43
vous etes tous des betes (pour les rasiste) vous reponder a des photos, vous perder votre temps avec sette imbissile de jounaliste qui ne conner pas son pere et peux etre sa mere aussi.
Mouslim 24-Mar-2007 13:33
mon message est: vous aimez ou vous detester L´ISLAM restera pour toujour et vous ne pouvez pas l´efacer, L´ISLAM est la cle de la vie.
ACHEHADOU ANNA LA ILAHA ILLA ALLAH WA ANNA MOUHAMMED RASSOUL ALLAH
Mike Stranger 14-Mar-2007 22:36
God site. Thanks!
Christine 12-Jan-2007 00:41
Excellent, love it!
Omer Khalid 29-Dec-2006 14:04
Daniel I dare you if you are the son of a single father and not of multiple mother fuckers then post each and every word of my recent email and if you don't then the world might not know but between you and me we will always know who is the real COWARD. COME ON LETS SEE UR COURAGE ASS WHOLE!!!
oksheikh786@gmail.com
OMER KHALID (YOU KNOW WHO!!!)
Guest 08-Dec-2006 20:07
Just have to laugh. We worship idols and cry about pictures that point to the truth that light came int the world (Jesus) and we love darkness rather than light (Mohammed). Luckily for us though, Jesus died and resurrected from death because he wanted us to live forever with him. Repent and be saved. Joy is contagious.
shahid 14-Nov-2006 07:50
maybe this is too late a comment :P

anyway, daniel is right in saying that the cartoons that made it to Jyllands are not as bad as others that DID NOT make it to print(pig photo and doggy photo). but also Jyllands should have been more sensitive towards the muslim's belief, no matter how ridiculous it seems to them.(the secular world is full of ridiculous rituals too e.g. sept 11 memorial, national anthem etc)

i believe the cartoons is a reflection of "today's islam" as how it is understood by the artists and NOT of their interpretation of muhammad(even though the paper says that it is). maybe they have erraneously linked "today's islam" with muhammd.

muslims shuold look at what is happening with islam today and admit the resemblence in the caricatures.

and yes, muslims getting all emotional about this is definitely what the cartoon has shown.

i am a muslim.
i support well-supported-with-evidence freedom of speech.(if the cartoon is a depiction of muhammad, then they are not supported with good evidence)
i would prefer not to insult anyone.
Atheist Girl 22-Oct-2006 20:32
If someone makes fun of the Jewish religion, don't you think they will also become outrageous and whine "racist"? :) Well the same thing happens with Islam, and Christianity.
HAkim 06-Oct-2006 23:29
LIBERTE D'EXPRESSION VOUS DITES ?
unsa_kimy@hotmail.com
bien que je suis muslim wa el hamdullilah je n'essaie meme pas de commenter sur ces carricatures car ca ne vaux pas du tt la peine ...si eux ils ont perdu leurs religions nous on la concerve jalousement jusqu'a l'eternite bref ce qui me revolte chez nos amis les occidentaux c'est bien cette hypocrisie aveugle ...eux ils parlent de la liberte d'expression ..alors ou est ce cette liberte d'expression quand il s'agit d'apporte lajuste information aux lecteurs comcernant la guerre en irak et tout ce qui se passe en afghanisant ,les essaies nucleaires si non chimique et j'en passe , ou est cette liberte d'expression quant on touche les interets des etats unis bon bref ...va exercer ta pseudo liberte d'expression ailleurs la religion ca reste eternellement sacre ,enfin pour pour nous les musulans par pour tout le monde....................HAKIM,CANADA
MAF 06-Aug-2006 12:14
God is merciful and he will grant thee pardon
MAF 06-Aug-2006 12:13
I am Catholic and even if I disagree on many points about Islam, I still respect other peoples' beliefs be they Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hinudu etc. What was achieved by offending their beliefs, striking at the very core? Never tickle a sleeping dragon!! Amongst good and true Muslims lurk dangerous people who strive to twist the Prohet's words in the same way as people amongst Christians, Jews etc. Muslims from the everday sort of life have a right to be offended and one cannot accuse them for this. On the other hand while those who twist the Prophet's words are to blame for the damage inflicted, the ones who purposefully incited them to do so are the real culprit. Instead of offending other people's beliefs why not strive to better your own life? What was achieved by creating those caricatures in the first place? As Mr AbuAmir said:

AbuAmir 21-Jun-2006 10:12
I don’t think "Mr. Daniel" would like to see his wife's caricatures naked exposing her beauties in the newspaper as a demonstration of freedom of press. Do you appreciate this idea. Then go ahead and do so and show us freedom of press. But I think you would respect your wife and her feelings and the feelings of your children to do such a humiliating thing. Why not respect the feelings of others.
I would advise you firstly to read the life of Prophet Muhammed (sas), and his companions, I would advise you to read Koran, and then think about what you do. One more thing don't blame the religion or prophet (sas) for what the people do. You call Muslims terrorists but forget about terrors that you do throughout the world. By the way I have never seen you westerners making Pope to excuse for terrors done by Christians.

Finally there is only one God but there are many different ways of worshipping Him!
Daniel Apostol 12-Jul-2006 09:49
Dear Tariq Ali,

thanks for your interesting post even though I don't agree on several points.
Maybe there may not have been so many protestors as the media made us believe (which I doubt), but I've seen the rage of Muslim/Arab protests in Munich a few years back, they are just so extremely angry about everything and so easy to manipulate, like little children whose intellectual independence they seem to share.

Anyway, I'm still waiting for protests like these:
www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/fantasy.htm

BTW, you know do what happens to “atheists” or “convertees” with names like yours in countries where the Religion of Peace and Tolerance (TM) rules, right?
by Tariq Ali 11-Jul-2006 23:33
This Is The Real Outrage
Amid the cartoon furore, Danish imams ignore the tragedies suffered by Muslims across the world

The latest round of culture wars does neither side any good. The western civilisational fundamentalists insist on seeing Muslims as the other - different, alien and morally evil. Jyllands-Posten published the cartoons in bad faith. Their aim was not to engage in debate but to provoke, and they succeeded. The same newspaper declined to print caricatures of Jesus. I am an atheist and do not know the meaning of the "religious pain" that is felt by believers of every cast when what they believe in is insulted. I am not insulted by billions of Christians, Muslims and Jews believing there is a God and praying to this nonexistent deity on a regular basis.

But the cartoon depicting Muhammad as a terrorist is a crude racist stereotype. The implication is that every Muslim is a potential terrorist.
This is the sort of nonsense that leads to Islamophobia.

Muslims have every right to protest, but the overreaction was unnecessary. In reality, the number of original demonstrators was tiny: 300 in Pakistan, 400 in Indonesia, 200 in Tripoli, a few hundred in Britain (before Saturday's bigger reconciliation march), and government-organised hoodlums in Damascus burning an embassy. Beirut was a bit larger. Why blow this up and pretend that the protests had entered the subsoil of spontaneous mass anger? They certainly haven't anywhere in the Muslim world, though the European media has been busy fertilising the widespread ignorance that exists in this continent.

How many citizens have any real idea of what the Enlightenment really was? French philosophers did take humanity forward by recognising no external authority of any kind, but there was a darker side. Voltaire: "Blacks are inferior to Europeans, but superior to apes." Hume: "The black might develop certain attributes of human beings, the way the parrot manages to speak a few words." There is much more in a similar vein from their colleagues. It is this aspect of the Enlightenment that appears to be more in tune with some of the generalised anti-Muslim ravings in the media.

What I find interesting is that these demonstrations and embassy-burnings are a response to a tasteless cartoon. Did the Danish imam who travelled round the Muslim world pleading for this show the same anger at Danish troops being sent to Iraq? The occupation of Iraq has costs tens of thousands of Iraqi lives. Where is the response to that or the tortures in Abu Ghraib? Or the rapes of Iraqi women by occupying soldiers? Where is the response to the daily deaths of Palestinians? These are the issues that anger me. Last year Afghans protested after a US marine in Guantánamo had urinated on the Qur'an. It was a vile act and there was an official inquiry.
The marine in question explained that he had been urinating on a prisoner and a few drops had fallen accidentally on the Qur'an - as if pissing on a prisoner (an old imperial habit) was somehow more acceptable.

Yesterday, footage of British soldiers brutalising and abusing civilians in Iraq - beating teenagers with batons until they pass out, posing for the camera as they kick corpses - was made public. No one can seriously imagine these are the isolated incidents the Ministry of Defence claims; they are of course the norm under colonial occupations. Who will protest now - the media pundits defending the Enlightenment or Muslim clerics frothing over the cartoons?

It's strange that the Danish imams and their friends abroad ignore the real tragedy and instead ensure that the cartoons are now being reprinted everywhere. How will it end? Like all these things do, with no gains on either side and a last tango in Copenhagen around a mountain of unused butter. Meanwhile, in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine the occupations continue.
Yousuf 07-Jul-2006 07:53
Daniel, I read all the comments which are posted. It is interesting to see all that response from Muslims, non Muslims and atheists. I am sure you are happy with this response. I will not be offended if you do not like my belief, as would you if I do not like yours. With all the emphases on free speech, I am amazed at some of the hate messages from non Muslims, which shows intolerance to other cultures and the inability to respond to hate messages from non-civilized Muslims in a civilized manner. I am really frustrated with some of the messages written by Muslims, they threaten you with God and his punishment, although you do not believe in that. It is like threatening you with a gun in the Stone Age, when guns where not invented. But, I still respect thier opinion.I disagree with you and think these cartoons are offensive. I would not like anybody to offend my belief. I do not mind comments on the way I dress or eat or drive or discuss things. Thinking that all Muslims respond in the same manner is a generalization, which is not acceptable. There are some Muslims who like to blow themselves up. It is there choice. I do not agree with them, but it is their choice. I do not agree with people who kill themselves slowly with smoking or using drugs, but it is their choice. I do not agree with poeple who burn flags, but this is freedom of speach.What happened in Nigeria is a form of generalization; Muslims killed their Christian neighbor because of their ignorance. In other demonstration of anger all the killings were accidents. Freedom of speech gives the people the right to demonstrate. If you count the number of people who showed their anger in a non- civilized manner including all the writings in this web site and others in the www, it will be a small number. If you compare this to the total number of Muslims (1.3 billion), the percentage of people with non civilized response is minimal. This is similar in analogy to the number of English supporters who create problems in football matches (less than 50 arrested, with total number of supporters exceeding 60,000). There are extremist in this world, Muslim and non Muslim extremist. I consider you an extremist, but I will still respect you and your opinion, even if I disagree with you. I would be honored if you allow me to comment on your future postings. Finally, I still think these cartoons are offensive and would like you to remove them from your web site.
Michael 22-Jun-2006 14:22
These Muslim guys really have problems thinking straight, don't they. Well, to be fair, it's not just a problem with Islam, it is an essential part of all religions that to be a follower you must rid yourself of critical thinking and normal reasoning. Thought is the true enemy of religion and those who invest their lives in it (mistakenly believing they will be rewarded by a better 'life' after they die), and it seems that many people don't really like to think or aren't very good at it anyway, and so religion has much fertile ground on which to thrive. It is unfortunate that this is so because the only real hope for this world is that humans learn to use their intelligence. Meanwhile we have to hope against the odds that we shall come through all of the ignorance and superstition which holds truth hostage and which would lead us all back into the darkness which blanketed the planet before the Age of Enlightenment. We have to fight irrationality whether it comes from Islam or from George W Bush and Christianity, and we should dig in for a long, frustrating battle. Trying to reason with religious people brings to mind the phrase, 'banging one's head against a wall'. It hurts, it rarely works, but what other option do we have?! All the best to you, Daniel.
AbuAmir 21-Jun-2006 10:12
I don'd think "Mr. Daniel" would like to see his wife's caricatures naked exposing her beuties in the newspaper as a demonstration of freedom of press. Do you appreciate this idea. Then go ahead and do so and show us freedom of press. But I think you would respect your wife and her feelings and the feelings of your children to do such a humilating thing. Why not respect the feelings of others.
I would advise you firstly to read the life of Prophet Muhammed (sas), and his companions, I would advise you to read Koran, and then think about what you do. One more thing don't blame the religion or prophet (sas) for what the people do. You call muslims terrorists but forget about terrors that you do throughout the world. By the way I have never seen you westerners making Pope to excuse for terrors done by christians.
Burhan 20-Jun-2006 09:25
Hey all of the people that are talking to each other like that.Have u ever considered that there is none But One God .He Who has manufactured this world for His Beloved Prophet.How can he let the one go so much easily.......hanh.The very editor is burnt alive.So anyone who want the re-iteration of the same with should go on saying "this is the freedom man".The God will let u know what the freedom of mind leads upto.Some day people will come to know that all those who supported Denmark on their shameful deed tht they were wrong enough to find a place in Hell soooon InshAllah!
Virus 19-Jun-2006 06:05
"What's the explanation for the 40 virgins in paradise ?"
Well, the best answer, it is "Paradise" therefore you will have anything you can imagine or desire for and promise more than that.
Same as doctor ask from IT guy about computer technology, he/she would give simple and generic reply unless doctor keen to know for betterment of his/her profession or own/others life.
Swimer swim in water, noone can learn & understand swimming while sitting outside of water. Running after 2-rabbits, will have non.
I pray for our guidance.
Virurs 19-Jun-2006 05:45
Has Jyllands Posten died? I have few emails from different sources that he died by falling into fire but Denmark Govt. don't let media to publish this news. Any clue or info. in this regard. I am just wondering if this is the case then we should respect each others believes. As we have to die one day when we will be asked for good deeds, atleast if we don't bother other could be one of the best deed to present hereafter. Just a 2cent thought, which apply on me to the very first.
Johnny Mueller 18-Jun-2006 06:58
I heard as a muslim you're allowed to take at most four wives. Also there should be no sex outside marige. What's the explanation for the 40 virgins in paradise ?
guest 17-Jun-2006 10:35
who ever is writing bad stuff they should think again becasue god is watching them who creted the world you people are not scared know but rememba u are going to go in your graves you are going to die and go in your graves ur punishment will start their
Daniel Apostol 15-Jun-2006 13:51
Omer,

you are funny, keep them coming! Did you get my email? I made the effort to write, it's quite rude not to reply

BTW, to get your place in paradise and your 71 virgins (that's what it is all about, isn't it? I manage getting laid without getting myself killed) don't you have to get killed along with me?

have a look at this video, it's quite educational on what your stupid symbols mean and why it is no fucking big deal buring the American flag, the bible or the koran.
http://beyondmedia.blog.com/642412/

Anyway, any luck with the blowjob thing? doesn't look like it...

Daniel
Guest 15-Jun-2006 13:46
I think your an ignorant idiot who has no respect for other religions or anyone of a high nature such as the Prophet Mohammed PBUH. Obviously the Muslim world is going to lash out if Pictures of their Prophet are shown in an ugly and disgusted manner as you are probably not aware as you are ignorant is that Muslims are not even allowed to portray the Prophet Mohammed in any sort of picture or imagery and here you are supporting these disgusting cartoons portraying the Prophet totally wrong when in actual fact from reading historical facts he was a peacefull and pious man. I think that you are selfish and have no concern for another persons feelings. Yes some so called muslims in this world are doing wrong and hurting people for no reason no doubt about it and this is totally condemn as yes its not right, but for you to say that these pictures of the Prophet are fine to be displayed that is a ridiculous state of affairs and it shows how pathetic and unconsiderate you really are, to the muslim world who are genuinely good people and look and seek for peace in this world with everyone.
Guest 15-Jun-2006 13:01
Hey u Muslims of Germany isn't their even one true Muslim among u who could Kill this man and earn paradise for him/her self. Kill him kill kill kill again and again and again and let his rotten body lie in streets of Germany so that the smell can go far and beyond.
Omer Khalid 15-Jun-2006 12:53
What do u baldy westerners know about respect. According to your belifs JESUS(MAY ALLAH BE PLEASED WITH HIM) sacrificed his life for ur salvation. And MARY (MAY ALLAH BE PLEASED WITH HER) was the mother of this great man but this Daniel Apostol who calls himself champion of free speech proudly mentions the comic in which they both have been insulted by u christians. We muslims respect all Prophets and u baldy christians don't even respect ur own. Arn't u even a bit embarressed on this. If freedom of speech is every thing why civilised socities dislike when we abuse our parents or when we call names to elderly people because there is nothing like absolute freedom in this world. If there is then Daniel Apostol should go naked to his office if he has one which I seriously doubt. For us Muslims MUHAMMAD (PBUH) is more respectful than our parents. After God for us he is the noblest soul who has graced this earth. Muslims have sacrificed their lives and taken lives of others to protect his honour for centuries. That is our way of life and we ARE DAMN PROUD of it. MAY GOD CURSE AND DESTROY EVERY MAN LIKE APOSTOL WHO EVEN THINKS OF DISGRACING THE PROPHET (PBUH) IN HIS DREAMS. DEATH TO APOSTOL.
Daniel Apostol 14-Jun-2006 18:44
Omer,

get laid, that will take the pressure off your brain (if existing) and the voices out of your head! A good blowjob might do as well...

Daniel
Omer Khalid 14-Jun-2006 14:20
Yah I did not submit my email and name initially where I mentioned my name as Muslim. But I read that u thought such ppl as cowards. I want to let you know that we muslims who can sacrifice our lives over the honour of our prophet are not cowards u pathetic piece of shit. Have u ever thought that why we muslims love death more than u infidels love life. Because we follow the true religion unlike u blady confused secular shits. And u are the biggest piece of shit I have come across in my life.... freedom of expressin u shit head.
Muslim 14-Jun-2006 14:07
May God burn you in hell as he has burned the maker of these caricatures in Denmark. He was burnt alive in a fire. So will you and all christians and jews and infidels and every body who does not come in the fold of islam. So forget giving sermons to us muslims and think about the fire which awaits you. I will see you in hell from heaven Inshallah.
Muhammed Nafees Rishad 11-Jun-2006 19:07
I agree with the freedom of Media. But the Newspaper is the key of knowledge and the judgement of truth. It shouldn't be used by any groups. If it publish any news or cartoons there must have a strong evidence beyond it. If it is used by a group of people to hurt any belief intentionally and there are no more meaning of that works then it is included in media crime. So, there happens a media crime because it made anger among muslims and created
a uncontrolled situation in many countries. It didn't bring any good thing without bad thing. We want to live friendly with all types of believers.
Michael 31-May-2006 00:47

There is no god and 'believers' are offended when their infantile religious fantasy world is laughed at by those with the sense and maturity not to be deceived. I despair at those who are offended by cartoons (which aren't even all that good) and are then compelled to issue death threats or riot in the streets. If only the Islamic world was as forthcoming with its words of condemnation and its acts of indignation when terrorists used their Islamic beliefs to justify murdering thousands of people in the United States... maybe the rest of us would be a bit more sympathetic to their anachronistic way of life and endless griping and posturing.
Hany 24-May-2006 17:40
May God Forgive you for what you put on your web page. Its a prophet you joke about , i wouldn't agree about it for any prophet jesus, ibrahim, mohammed any of it... May god show you that this is not good to do, may you understand this and respect us as we respect you. I ask you to delete them, Noone needs war these days. Lets live in Peace. Peace be upon all of you.
Hany Taha
Architectural Engineer & Planet Divers Diving Center Manager
terrorists only for you 12-May-2006 06:39
i will kill you asshole fuckers sucke r
Jas 09-May-2006 01:20
I had never seen the pictures before and was fearing the worse images, but reviewing them now I don't consider them as offensive as I thought they would be and to be honest I did laugh at some of them. However, I do understand the Muslims and their hurt feelings since they truly belive that Mohammad should not be pictured and well we are living in a very strange times. First people aimed all their hates to Jews and now it is the Muslims turn. I just think it's a shame that we as people feel the need to distinguis and divide ourselves instead of reflecting upon religions and dare to laugh about them and question them. There are flaws in all religions and honestly is that really a surprise, they were all "created" like 2000 years ago. "born in a Muslim country but nothing more than a wandering Jew"
Jim 18-Apr-2006 08:28
I support you and what you stand for
Fortunately, I'm not as brave as you are to leave the rest of my info
Ellsworth Weaver 04-Apr-2006 16:02
Sometimes it seems like two kids fighting over who has the best imaginary playmate. Only in this case the kids have atomic weapons. *sigh* And I teach radiation protection! Please, check my Freedom Gallery http://www.pbase.com/neovolatile/freedom and remember:
"What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist" - Salman Rushdie
W. Tracy Parnell 31-Mar-2006 01:44
Good gallery.

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adip 22-Mar-2006 08:42
Don't not playing with the PROPHETS...
Rudi Knust 13-Mar-2006 08:23
If the "islamic world" would have stood up against the ever-present violence in their own society, targeting mostly so-called infidels, regardless of children and elder, and using religion to justify all this, nobody would have ever associated religious symbols with your holy prophet Mohammed. The idea to do so was a reflection of what many of you are doing and many of you ar either deniyng or defending, only a small majority od yours has the will to fight this.
Emmanuel 13-Mar-2006 03:18
Its amazing that people left their houses and went to kill their neighbours [in Nigeria] over these pictures 6 months after they were first published...i had really expected to see something offensive and i must say that these pictures are pretty innocuous..can any muslim out there justify this action to me please...this is truly sad
Omar 11-Mar-2006 03:30
So...It appears your freedom has enabled you to be Defiant as you mention. It has enabled you to create misery among some while helping others feel better about their own opinions. Or have the emotions inside of you leading towards this feeling of defiance compelled you to act in order for your own satisfaction, in order to rid yourself of those feelings inside of you which needed to be expelled from your body through their 'exorcism'. They could not be kept within that one body, lest they should tear it apart, bring it down and render it helpless, by denying it this audience. Your opinions were so strong, yet so far within and they have succeeded in their travels towards all those whom they may upset or enligten. On the other hand, if these words which you are so happy to utilize are decided as unable to cause disrespect, if not a single combination exists which can offend or create passionate emotions, then either our language is inadequate to our needs or more likely, we live in a society where we possess nothing that can be disrespected. There are no values which we hold highly enough or close enough in order for words to offend. I do apologize for not mentioning the exceptions. Who can deny that notion which is so dear to us, our 'freedom of speech' and those other 'freedoms'. These freedoms entail the loss of our spiritual or idealist values where 'words will never hurt me', yet we remain vehemently opposed to material freedoms "sticks and stones will break my bones" and this brings us right back to where it all started. The greatest antagonism in our world, the battle between these two freedoms. The battle where one must adopt a side and use it to counter the opposition. What we can infer from this must be the realization that we in the west no longer require any material freedom because we hold nothing dear or of respect which justifies the strong emotions required for material 'freedom'. Looking through these lenses, we lack the experience which would enable us to understand the emotions of these 'other' people and thus we can never begin to understand their opposition to our 'freedom' which is in its essence an opposition to theirs. Now the final step is to act as you would when required to solve an algebraic equation, namely to cancel the common entity. WHy I didn't think freedom would ever offend anyone, and besides, it doesn't even exist!
remzi sağlam 09-Mar-2006 20:40
after ı read the comments about the attack to the Danish monument, ı really understood that we were living in 14th century. when a cell phone is produced in Finland for instance it is here in Türkiye at most in one year. halas, the fight for freedeom in Türkiye and also in almost all middle east countries has not even started.
Daniel Apostol 08-Mar-2006 19:17
Thank you Rudi, one would think your statement stands to reason, but the lack thereof is the main problem here... Daniel
Rudi Knust 08-Mar-2006 17:43
I am fully supporting the author of this web site. I believe that the cartoon's initial purpose was not to insult the prophet, rather to show how much the religion of islam has been used as a justification for all kinds of terrible acts of violence in recent decades. I have never learned that a christian priest (or hindu priest) is calling for a "Fatwa". Imagine: "Religious leaders" who claim to represent a peaceful religion asking their followers to kill someone else. The cartoons is nothing else as a "mirror" in which those "holy people" should take a deep look. The extreme outbrake of violence does prove that the motive of the cartoons were right on the point.
Guest 07-Mar-2006 15:11
I wish that it was a place to post photos. Anyway. Wait a little more "Zie Germanz". We Turks are commmmming to get ya.!. hihohohahaha. In 50 years our population in Germany will be more than you. Than you guess what will happen.. :)
Avenger 04-Mar-2006 05:07
lets piss on jesus and his cross
Rafay Anwari 01-Mar-2006 05:23
God is watching you. May god punish WRONG people!!!
Sorry About Turkish Answer 21-Feb-2006 11:34
Ramazan, sen ne hıyar bir herifmişsin yahu, eleştirilerimi şahsına mı yoksa sülalene mi yapsam bilemedim...
Golakas Bullezi 20-Feb-2006 17:57
I think moslems' minds are close to critising. actually i dont care mohammad, moses or christ (or jesus whatever they call)what shit they made before. three clever guy said that they are the waiters of god and millions of idiots believed in them. hey, god is here, god is USA, prophet is G.W. Bush. he can do whatever he wants (for god:)). Clever people rules ordinary brains. moses, jesus or mohammad were the clevers. but now usa is the power. who can believe that usa is in ıraq for democracy?? anyway...

its a good chance for the unknown danish paper to advertise them...
Guest 20-Feb-2006 14:15
Les trois monothéismes, animés par une même pulsion de mort généalogique, partagent une série de mépris identiques : haine de la raison et de l'intelligence ; haine de la liberté ; haine de tous les livres au nom d'un seul ; haine de la vie ; haine de la sexualité, des femmes et du plaisir ; haine du féminin ; haine des corps, des désirs, des pulsions. En lieu et place de tout cela, judaïsme, christianisme et islam défendent : la foi et la croyance, l'obéissance et la soumission, le goût de la mort et la passion de l'au-delà, l'ange asexué et la chasteté, la virginité et la fidélité monogamique, l'épouse et la mère, l'âme et l'esprit. Autant dire la vie crucifiée et le néant célébré...
Traité d'athéologie, Michel Onfray.
lorin niculae 13-Feb-2006 21:06
More than 200 years ago, Immanuel Kant (german philosopher) wrote: "The less a man can be physically forced, and the more he can be morally forced (by the mere idea of duty), so much the freer he is."
We all know the Danish publication was the less physically forced to publish those caricatures.
We all know the effect of those caricatures on muslims: disapointment for all and the need for a violent answer for some fundamentalists. The publishers knew this but very well BEFORE publishing the caricatures.
They could have thought they have the moral duty to act for peace and not for war.

If the Danish publication would have considered it is morally forced NOT TO PUBLISH those caricatures, they would have made the proof of their freedom.

Like this, they prooved just their greed to increase their number of copies printed and have cheap advertising.
Please don't compare "Life of Brian", which is a humorus critique from INTERIOR, with a critique from EXTERIOR. Further more, just don't compare the climate where the two forms of critique have appeared because you won't find similarities.

Lastly, I'd like to say that there is no sensible person to think violence is a good, appropriate answer to caricatures and there must be no sensible person to think those caricatures have bring something good (except for the publishers pockets).

Lorin Niculae,
romanian christian orthodox, with muslim, catholic, Lutheran and atheist friends.
Robert Stuart Davies 12-Feb-2006 10:15
Well, well.
- all this arguing the toss, and ignorance towards each other over some sad, ignorant sketches this time.
Even without these senseless pictures, we all know that there are a few out there who profit from all this animosity in one way or another - people who enjoy the strife they cause...and some that are just too ignorant to be civil to one another - eh?
A real shame that we can't make THAT fact the issue - here on our site even.
Anyway..
there was me thinking that this was a photosite, some place where we ALL be together, exist, happily, enjoy our shared friendship, interest and ideas, as one ....
I guess I may have been wrong..
Peace and better wisdom (in these often senseless times) be with us all.
Mike Long 12-Feb-2006 07:39
I applaud all who are willing to post their identity along with their messages here. Those who sign in anonymously are simply cowards.
Adrian 12-Feb-2006 02:11
Thanks to these cartoons there are going out to the overdraft some nations that hate the free world. Not to protect an embassy means to be an accomplice. The cartoons do not have fault(sin) of anything. The destruction of an embassy is a declaration of a real war. --traduction--
charles levenson 12-Feb-2006 00:59
There is no doubt in my mind that all of this bloody muslim nonsense over cartoons that show mohammad's face is merely a reflection of the totalitarian philosophy that permeates the muslim world and makes it the number one enemy of ANYONE who cherishes freedom of any kind...All of this tip-toeing around a muslim taboo misses the point;JUST BECAUSE MUSLIMS PLAY BY THESE RULES DOES NOT MEAN EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO..There have been numerous cartoons,over the last century-plus,depicting jews as slime,as monsters,as baby-killers,ect,AND YET HAVE JEWS GONE ON A RAMPAGE OF BURNING & MURDER BECAUSE OF THIS?NO!Likewise there have been cartoons hostile to Christ & christians,with no bloody repurcussions...But these muslims seem to think that the rest of us are REQUIRED to respect them and to play by thier rules...For a society that has no qualms about sending out murderers with bombs strapped to themselves,to blow up innocent civillians,or who hi-jack planes in order to crash them into buildings,THESE PEOPLE HAVE SOME NERVE COMPLAINING ABOUT CARTOONS!!!!
clcjr 11-Feb-2006 23:51
You are a free thinker. Those that choose to subscribe to a religion forget; it's not blasphemy if you don't believe the ideology in the first place. We should all be free to believe, or not believe, in what we choose. Thanks for trying to keep the lights on...
Mohammed ALALI 11-Feb-2006 22:25
U dont deserve to be alive
John 11-Feb-2006 21:27
Listen here! I am an American and I do not support the hypocrisy that Bush and company describe as liberation and freedom in Iraq. There are plenty of places on earth (Sudan, Sierra Leone, etc.) where people are brutally persecuted by their own. Yet America, and for that matter the rest of the world, choose to bury their heads in the sand. Why? Did you say "oil"? Why yes. That is the correct answer. The so called "national interest" argument that the US uses to justify meddling in other country's affairs is bullshit. It's all about money and power. American politics is dominated by big business interests, despite all the propaganda to the contrary. There are millions of Americans who feel the way I do, so don’t paint us all with the same brush, just as we should not do towards the millions of peace loving Muslims of the world. Unfortunately, our democracy has been hijacked by the neo-fascists, and the Muslim religion has been hijacked by the hate mongers. It’s up to the rest of us to raise our voices against such tyranny. We need brave leaders who are prepared to speak the truth and hold politicians and the radical mullahs accountable for their twisted morality. And when they are cut down there have to be others equally committed and equally brave to take their places. All of this can be accomplished without the downtrodden initiating violence. Dr. Martin Luther King, Mahatma Gandhi, and many others in history have accomplished great social change without firing a single shot. Listen before it’s too late.
believe_in_me 11-Feb-2006 18:55
Handclaps or boo's on those who highly respect a god/figure that might not exist or whom we never met before. It's really pathetic to see people killing/hurting each other (who we know best--> look in mirror, human vs human) to defend a believe, an unknown theory. It's better to try and respect our fellow human first above all religions.
Guest 11-Feb-2006 18:30
Where's the picture of Jesus Christ as a pedophile?
Mike Long 11-Feb-2006 18:19
Daniel, thanks for your note, and apologies for my errant Nazi insinuation. Intersting array of comments - Why not put them all up, so folks get the full picture? Me, I'm all for freedom of speech on both sides of the equation, whether that be in the form of cartoons and flag burning.

I find two issues disturbing about the cartoons:

1) The Arab political leaders who are using them to fuel hatred and fanaticism against the West.

2) Western arrogance and ignorance to assume that we understand the Islamic world, in particular our "surprise" that Islamists would be angry.

ML
Eli Finkelstein 11-Feb-2006 17:45
Allah is watching you. He is rolling on the floor and laughing at all the fuss this has created. His favorite is number 11.
Imane. H 11-Feb-2006 17:22
Hi Daniel :

Freedom of expression and freedom of the press are essential and important to just societies, and we should all support that.

HOWEVER, this issue is not *really* about freedom of press or freedom of expression. If that were the case, you would see cartoons ridiculing the holocaust, for example. So it appears that the paper was not really trying to see how far the freedom of speech can go, rather it was simply ploy to offend muslims.

This is a right-wing paper in a country in which the party in power has an anti-immigrant platform. The cartoons were not about freedom of speech, rather, these depictions are hateful and meant to provoke and offend. Which they did.

Now should the paper have the right to publish what it wants? sure. However, it should label it for what it is. If it is freedom of expression, then they would not tread so carefully on one issue, and so offfensively on the other.

If the Jewish people have succeeded (rightfully so) in having laws created that stop people from creating anti-semitic material or hate publications, why is it so wrong for the European Muslims to ask for the same treatment?

Muslims have a right to protest. They have a right to assemble and march. They have a right to choose what they buy and what they don't buy. Are these not democratic methods? Now, violence should not be condoned in any form, and that's why both sides need to simmer down, before this escalates into a larger issue.

As fas the cartoons themselves, most of them have a sterotypical image...largely depicting a sinister dark person. Such circatures used to be drawn in Europe, not that long ago, to create hatred against Jewish people. Now they are being applied not just to any Muslim, but in a wide stroke, they are implying that all 1 Billion Muslims, are followers of a terrorist founder, implying that Islam is not a religion, but a despicible cult. Do you see the hatred that these cartoons are implying? Do you understand why they are offensive?

So to wrap up my comments:
1. The press should be free
2. Double-standards should not be applied, if one topic is offensive (e.g. It is against the law to deny a historical event in some countries. Germany makes it a punishable offence to even deny the holocaust (I personally think it is a good idea to make it a crime), then how come another topic (implying that the Holy prophet of muslims was a terrorist) is not offensive?
3. The paper was really simply trying to offend, and it succeeded.
Daniel Apostol 11-Feb-2006 16:32
I wrote Mike a detailed email on why I don't post all comment given here. I'll be interested in his reply.

I admit that I just deleted one of his comments here, because he posted it twice.
I also deleted a comment here in which he compared the Mohammed pictures to anti-Jewish Nazi propaganda and referred to me as "Herr General" insinuating I was a Nazi myself.
Please look up Godwin's law in that context.
http://www.dcult.com/Internet-Culture/Godwins_Law.php
I would like to point out, that it showed as an anonymous post by some "Guest", so next time log in before you write something like this.

Here is the current level of anti-Jewish propaganda
http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/ArabCartoons.htm
please point out any similarities.
Mike Long 11-Feb-2006 15:13
It's very intersting that you defend freedom of speech, yet you only post the messages you prefer - Is this a selective German-style "freedom of speech?" Anyway, I'll post this message in the forum for all to see, with a link to your so-called "freedom of speech" gallery.
Guest 11-Feb-2006 14:29
Viva el mundo libre. Libertad de expresión.
Daniel Apostol 11-Feb-2006 14:23
Dear Serkan,
have you read anything I posted here?
Like "I don't give a damn about what you say about jesus or buddha (both not capitalized, you see, I'm sure h.h. the dalai lama or ol' ratzinger will not call for my death for that) or whatever". Scroll down to my posting from 08-Feb-2006 09:53, you will see what I mean.
We live in a world of secularism, I do anyway. If you don't want your religious feelings hurt, start your own damn newspaper. If you see those caricatures anyway, write an angry letter (careful, not letter bomb!) to your editor and get on with your life. Or go to some middle eastern country where you get your internet accessed cencored and your daughter stoned if she gets raped by a stranger, your call.

further recommended readings (more cartoons on the subject):
http://www.cagle.com/news/Muhammad/main.asp

And to draw any connection between children pornography (which causes actual physical and psychological damage of the depicted, it means pictures of children being raped!!!) and these caricatures is really leading you on very thin ice. You wouldn't want me to go into the Prophet's 2nd "wife" would you, how old was she again?

Best regards
Daniel Apostol
Serkan Ersu 11-Feb-2006 13:35
First I wanna tell that it was a big big mistake to publish these so called pieces of speech freedom. We all hear about child pornography all over but you don't see examples in your papers right? Or you don't see autopsy photographs, dissected victims by murderers, or infant bodies after abortion, the list can continue.. If you see the wildly killed bodies of one of your leaders, politicians, relatives, or your own baby of mis carriage in the paper would you be able to accept these as a part of freedom of speech? Here is a new phrase for you: Freedom of belief and our belief says that the Prophet(p.b.u.h.) is the holliest of all mankind just as you say about Jesus Christ (capitalized as you can see). Our belief allso forbids any kind of visualization of the Prophet (p.b.u.h.)You can do anything, laugh at any drawings, make fun of any personalities in your private life but in public THERE ARE RULES TO BE FOLLOWED.. I wanna ask you something. Was it reaaly necessary to create all that chaos and re-firing the ashes after all that time passed? If someone finally manages to get you over your boiling point and you lose control, doesn't the boiler hold any responsibility? Think about it..
Gord_OH 11-Feb-2006 11:44
Thank you... Its amazing what happens when the shoe is on the other foot for once.

Gord Fehr
Calgary, Canada
Mikal 10-Feb-2006 18:50
Great Cartoons! If you don't like it move back to the "Muslim Lands" (Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan...etc.). This is what it means to live in the west, land of the free home of the brave. By immigrating, and yes, it was your decision to move, "YOU" become part of the existing society and "YOU" can't expect everyone else to conform to your beliefs/lifestyle. If you want to discipline your wife by cutting off her head because she got raped, go right ahead, thats your culture. Just don't do it in Western Europe, America, Canada, or any other western country...
Guest 10-Feb-2006 17:21
the bottom line is that you have to respect and in this case this people of the news papers didnt, they have to face the consequences of people that is in there nature not to joke about there religion, what would happend if some newspaper posted a cartoon of the pope fucking a noon or joking about the gay priest i would love to see the reaction of the church and the people that is chatolic, it would be the same (violence toars the people or the newspapers that gave aurhorization to do it or even the country )and for the people that dont care even if they are chatolic they are stupid you could shit on there fucking face and since they dont care they will not say anything (fucking ignorants) They are messing whit people that they think they know well lets see and hope this jihad stuff and violence from either side doesnt finish whit more inocent dead people ..
Guest 10-Feb-2006 17:14
I'd like to add my oppinion on this one....

Realistically
- The person / people who actually drew these pictures made a stupid mistake if they didnt realise the consequences (people make mistakes). They should publicaly appologise to all muslims. If they did this with intent legal justice should be sort.
- The editor / vetting should of dealt with the person who drew these in the proper manor (however this did not happen)
- The editor was then rightly sacked
- The islamic people have the right for free speech
- They do not have the right to create violence and destruction and preventive measures should be put in place
- Islamic people have the right to protest and appeal against this awful drawings, in a peaceful way

Personally
- I think the drawings are a stupid idiocy and the people involved should be dealt with at least loosing thier jobs for sure
- I think the actions of certain muslims demostrating with violence and destruction is an un-justified re-action and in itself worse than the provocation.
- HOWEVER, this does not represent the muslim community a MASSIVE fact that people forget
- These idiots insulted millions of people worldwide (maybe without realising) they should publically appologise
- The violent protesters should be dealt with in some form
- We really need to start thinking about the future of our children. We are activly forging divides between western and muslim communities. We should be dealing with our issues in a peaceful and compromising way.

I think the western polocies on certain countries are wrong and causing tension. I think our western govournments are acting like bullies and dictating the freedom of those countries. Yes there are extremists but i think they are arising in the western world as they start to disagree more and more with the way they are segragated over here. That really sucks.

Im a christian and have seen jesus portrayed as a homosexual, im not extremely religious but it still offends me so i can only imagine how it could affend muslims; who should be praised for their dedication to their religion.

Global warming isn't the only issue we have to worry about for our childrens future. Something has to change. I hate war and violence and i dont think thats the answer. I dislike the fact our western govourment thinks it knows best for other countries. I dont know the answers but i know there needs to be more peace and understanding from both sides.

One things for sure, the media especially should stop associating islam with terrorism. I think in itself that protrayal has caused more tension than anything else.
Guest 10-Feb-2006 15:21
http://www.liberation.fr/obj/578/IMAGE_T5_57709.jpg
Guest 10-Feb-2006 15:15
Les trois monothéismes, animés par une même pulsion de mort généalogique, partagent une série de mépris identiques : haine de la raison et de l'intelligence ; haine de la liberté ; haine de tous les livres au nom d'un seul ; haine de la vie ; haine de la sexualité, des femmes et du plaisir ; haine du féminin ; haine des corps, des désirs, des pulsions. En lieu et place de tout cela, judaïsme, christianisme et islam défendent : la foi et la croyance, l'obéissance et la soumission, le goût de la mort et la passion de l'au-delà, l'ange asexué et la chasteté, la virginité et la fidélité monogamique, l'épouse et la mère, l'âme et l'esprit. Autant dire la vie crucifiée et le néant célébré...
Traité d'athéologie, Michel Onfray.
Daniel Apostol 10-Feb-2006 14:24
To the so-called "Muslim person" who made the last comment.
Because of the offensive language, I took the liberty removing the F words and will quote your comment within here and comment on it myself.
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you wrote:
All of You guys xxx U ... U guys making fun of this pictures but Ask ur self If we are going to make a porn movie with jesus u will love too. Huh 1 person will xxx jesus xxx and another person will xxx his mother in front of him. How is it. U'll love it...
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Dear friend, very well put, but you will be interested to learn that this already exists in the above mentioned comic book "Es ist ein Arschlock, Maria!" and "Du bist ein Arschlock, mein Sohn!". ok, it is not a movie but still, it features Mary having sex with everyone (including the two wise man one of which is schizophrenic) but Josef. It also shows the devil in snake guise offering Jesus a sandwich and a blow job ("look what my tongue can do.."). Guess what, some people wrote angry letters to their bishops, they were furter ridiculed by the author (Walter Moers) and that was it. The public DID NOT GIVE A RAT'S ASS!! That's right, we don't care for this sort of thing!!!
Also these announced Iranian holocaust caricatures are just another sign of the radical's infancy and not understanding our point.
Yet I hope I could provide you with a better understanding of Western secularism.

You're welcome.
Hodero 10-Feb-2006 13:32
ERICH tells the truth.There are soo many comments of anonymous religious warriors.This has nothing to do with religion,but is only a powerplay of the big boys selling their religion.So join me in the crusade.. http://www.pbase.com/hodero/image/55846291
43cardinals 10-Feb-2006 13:22
The god is dead, long live the god.
TANI 09-Feb-2006 23:19
THIS IS A BAD JOKE .
THEY ARE PREFECT PEOPLE (MUSA ,ISA,MOHAMED)AND THE GOD(ALLAH)HANDPICKED THEM AND FOR THIS WE LOVE AND FOLLOWER ,NO BODY KNOOW A LOT OF THE GOD.
AND FOR THIS GOD ILL DAMNATION THIS CARICATURERS
Daniel Apostol 09-Feb-2006 10:21
Dear Adam,
thanks for your comment.
I appreciate reading from a reasonable person here for a change.
On the depiction ban, as I wrote in the intro, it obviously used to be far from absolute, check out this vast collection of Mohammed depictions throughout the ages, most of them done by Muslim.
http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive
might not be working now, check out the mirrors..
Another reason I put these pictures here is to show people that these pictures are not so bad as they are made to believe by some (or are they). I read several articles on pictures showing the Prophet as a pig or being raped by a dog which is just not what they printed and what I do not approve of.
Here is a German article ("Der Spiegel" magazine) shedding some light on the infamous "pig picture", it shows the original picture, which came from a "pig squeak contest" (I am not kidding here) without any religious reference what-so-ever.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,399791,00.html
As I also said earlier, I understand some people don't like them, but they are not so bad in general and certainly not so bad as the anti-west or anit-jewish caricatures the Arab media dishes out, so learn to live with them.
ADAM 09-Feb-2006 09:31
to critisize someone's idea,religion,race.... you must have knowledge about it. First of all , its prohbited to picturize him in this religion.Muslims never done it before and expect some respect for this.
Some of you here has ideas, really funny- but i hope these will open some book an read some history and religion...
ANYWAY :think about this, your brother, sister, or your friend is really sensitive about one subject(this subject couses wars before:) ) do you still PUSH it or make fun of it? of course not, you do it if you hate him/her...
here is the answer, some of christians hate muslims and vice versa of course, rest is going with the wind ,...
THESE CARICATURES JUST CAUSE PROBLEMS ... if those who believe in GOD do not want trouble we have to learn the ways of living in this WORLD ... or i think this will end up with WW3 because of religions...
Dave Casey 09-Feb-2006 08:21
Throughout history more people have been killed in the name of religion than any war or natural disaster. It is ridiculous. Organised religion in any form only seems to be divisive and inspire conflict
T. 09-Feb-2006 05:23
Religion is an ancient tool used to control a populous by providing them with a sense of meaning. It has been used to harness the power of the masses for thousands of years. Many of the most powerful, influential and rich human beings that have lived over the past few thousand years have been religious leaders or people associated very closely “God”. Bush as an example uses “God” as a reference in many of his speeches and is considered by many as one of the most powerful people in the world today.

Democracy is simply a modern tool used by civilized educated people who want to live under fair equal rules for all. This fair system also allows for change over time. Just as humans evolved over time our beliefs and values must also evolve. We no longer want to follow blindly a set of rules created to give power to the preachers or church leaders or “clerics” of any certain religion. This ability to not follow a religion blindly is known as freedom and is the way of the future.

So if you are still following blindly a religion that was created over 2000 years ago in order to control your ancestors you may want to have a good hard look at the world as it is no longer flat. No matter how many embassy’s get fire bombed or flags get burned time will not move backwards and people will always be free to draw cartoons.

If you do not like these cartoons above that is your right but your rights end there because it is also my right to appreciate there true meaning.

Thank you for posting these cartoons for our reflection; unfortunately the people that run our news papers seem to be afraid of decapitation and are unwilling too show them.
AYSEGUL-TURKIYE 09-Feb-2006 01:18
THAT WOULD BE THE ATEISTIC/POOR/SCIENTIFIC TYPES LIVE ON THE WORLD BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHOSE BELIEVIN'N GOD WOULD BE THE WINNER AT LAST AND IN AN ENDLESS LIFE !! WHAT ABOUT U LIKE esp.455 IF WE'R TRUE ABOUT AN ENDLESS LIFE??? RELIGION IS NOT A BARRIER TO SCIENCE;IT NOT A MANKIND BUILDING... THINK ABOUT OF YU'SELVES IF ALLAH IS TRUE ??? (true i mean) jyllands-posten caricatures could be rescue u from the fire???
Guest 09-Feb-2006 01:13
I am astonished by all the hoopla over these cartoons - I found them FUNNY. I found them CLEVER. They made me LAUGH. How amazing that people/fanatics who find it acceptable to behead hostages and broadcast it to the world, and who hope their sons will grow up to become suicide bombers, blow up the World Trade Center - can be affected so deeply by being laughed at. If muslims want the West to respect their religion - then they need to EARN that respect. As it stands - the cariactures of The Prophet Muhammed showing him as the head of a bloodthirsty and violent religion - are pretty accurate.
Juan Pablo Olivo Gonzalez 09-Feb-2006 00:35
I just can't believe how much problem islamic people are making about this cartoons, seriously no religious belief, society, country, or group of people of any kind is perfect, and the cartoons are only pointing at the mistakes islamic people have, if even that, actually it would be only the fundamentalists. In a world with 6 billion people there's always going to be different ways of thinking but we have to learn how to respect each others ideas even when they go directly against ours. If a danish newspaper published cartoons of mexicans being ignorant and stupid, ok, that's their idea and I'm of course against it, but not because of that I'm going to kill all the danish people I find in the streets, go to the embassy and molotov bomb them. Let's treat each other with respect and kindness, if we don't want to live in a world full of anger and war.
Baloo 09-Feb-2006 00:16
Thanks for creating this beautiful page. At least I got to know what this whole issue is all about. Also, I learnt the exact dimensions of the Danish flag with pantone red 032 :). Some folks talked about their love they feel when thinking of the Prophet as well as His rules they obey, they simply forgot to add that they go to drink loads at night - yeah, when the prophet can't see them should they forget about the rules - and then go burn up a few embassies and flags on the way home as the prophet allows them to do such stuff to all non-believer dogs. I am not religious and I condemn all violence related to religious extremeties. I would not apologize for anything like these otherwise not really amazing) drawings, so feel free to burn an other flag as well, I can drink a beer at any time for ya. Oh well, I am Hungarian, wich is a landscape format flag lined 1:1:1 red:white:green from top to bottom. No pantone info at hand, sorry guys.
Daniel Apostol 09-Feb-2006 00:11
TCE, I don't hate these protestors, I just petty them for their gullibility and readiness to take their (often understandable) frustration, often against their own leaders, into the streets against whomever they are told. Mostly they really don't know what they do, like mixing up flags, setting fire to the wrong embassy or wrong people and so on...
Those whom I really don't like are the once who just tell these people that the West/the Danish/the whoever-but-not-us insulted Islam knowing that they can remote control them like robots and abuse them for their political gains, best seen in Iran at the moment. Just like Nazi-Germany, you got a problem, blame the Jews...
Furthermore am I not Christian as you can guess by my earlier postings and there is certainly more than one truth. I've seen Buddhist, Muslim, Hindi and Christians all perfectly content and happy with the belief they choose, so don't tell them they are wrong because they don't all follow your god.
TCE 08-Feb-2006 23:40
455... you base your theories on wishful expectations and ideology. Get out there, experience a bit, and you'll find out why spirituality exists... but be careful, theres only one truth... God sent his one and only son, Jesus, to die for your sins. He loves you, cares about you, longs to talk to you and show you his plans for your life. Accept him as your saviour and redeemer...

Daniel, don't hate the people... hate the lies and deception. Watch out not to defy them, rather try to love and provide for them... even normal people care and love their friends, but as christians... we should strive to even love those that are our enemies... and show humblenes. I try to do so, but I'm not perfect... and I admit that many times I've shown prejudice. I ask forgiveness to you muslims for holding prejudice against you. I hope to become better friends with you...
Daniel Apostol 08-Feb-2006 23:23
oh, and Yasim, get a wife or a girlfriend or something
Daniel Apostol 08-Feb-2006 23:18
to 455 rocket:
I also don't see proof for the existence of higher beings, but I don't see any evidence for the contrary either. Believing (because believing it is) that there is (are) no god(s) is like another religion of its own, which I don't follow. Also I do not renounce the idea of a soul existing next to body and mind, I don’t believe what we feel and how we affect other people is just chemicals in our brains (I don’t mean horniness or rage, but rather deeper feelings ;-)
Anyway, the whole thing shows that slavish following of religion often brings out the worst in people.
455 rocket 08-Feb-2006 20:45
In my opinion ALL RELIGIONS are purely the product of the IMAGINATION of MAN and his attempts to explain his origins and give his existence purpose. There is no scientific evidence in support of any religious accounts of the origins of man or the universe and vast amounts of evidence to the contrary. There are no miracles, everything follows the laws of physics/chemistry and evolution. We have no souls we are just complex biochemical machines shaped by natural selection. We may one day be in part the products of intelligent design only when genetic engineering is somewhat more advanced and permitted in humans. I hope one day man matures to the point that all religions become part of our past along with flat-earthism, witchcraft, alchemy and astrology, and no longer restrict our scientific and social advancement as a species. Some intelligent people, are highly religious and this is largely, in my opinion, because these individuals daren't critically exam the evidence for both sides as they have been pre-programmed and indoctrinated to the point of obscuring their critical thinking and sound judgment or are just plain afraid that this is all there is, and when you are dead the chances of you ever existing again are nil ... and are in some sort of denial. I long to see the day (but I'll be long dead before this ever happens) when there will be no world leaders with opinions and actions clouded by religion. It is a very poor reflection on mankind, that despite our scientific advancement to date, we have advanced relatively little from a social and philosophic points of view. It is staggering that riots resulting in death and destruction can result from the publication of a mere cartoon sketch. If it wasn't so tragic, it would be far funnier than the cartoon itself, that as a result of some Muslims becoming upset about a cartoon they engage in acts that result in the death of their fellow Muslims. Freedom of speech and ideas represents a two edged sword, we may not like or agree with the ideas and ideologies of others we may not like to hear what others consider the truth but we should listen to all points of view make our own decisions and allow others to do the same. Freedom of speech and ideas isn't always pleasant, it does sometimes result in the feeling of others being hurt, but it is far better for mankind than the opposite situation.
Yasim Harim 08-Feb-2006 19:19
How dare the west joke about our religion and talk of freedom. They glorify men sleeping with men in there movies and woman dress in nothing on the beachs which are just brothels. Their schools swelter with drugs and college campuss flood with alcohol. In there cities aids is rampant like a syphelitc scourge. In Iraq they kill 50,000 civilians to bring freedom at the end of a gun which is not freedom when you are ground by someones boot. Curse you arrogance and prejudice.
Daniel Apostol 08-Feb-2006 18:47
Hey Eugene, this is sooo deep, man. Now I feel really stupid
eugen 08-Feb-2006 18:33
Hmmm, am sorry to say this....but you are the most stupid asshole I've ever known...
Don't take offense. Just a freedom of expression fuckhead.
Eugene
Erich Mangl 08-Feb-2006 11:27
:-)) business as usual: a controversial page full of anonymous comments - their primitive language shows that you need a special rotten character to become a religious warrior
Daniel Apostol 08-Feb-2006 10:10
BTW, the email address provided in the posting I commented on below just bounced. He (or she?) didn't even dare posting his or her email address there. Bloody cowards, you make me sick!
Rajes 08-Feb-2006 04:36
I had always disagreed with my mom who says that "where there are muslims, there is bound to be trouble". I felt that she was prejudice and I did not want to think like her. Now looking at the way many of these followers of a 'so called' peaceful religion behave, I am afraid I have to agree with my mum. The call by the German Minister hits the nail right on the forehead, "if you can't take it leave". there is a proverb that says "katak bawah tempurung" literally translated a 'frog under the coconut shell". Well, if the muslim insist on behaving like uncivilised babarian, perhaps that where they should live - under a coconut shell. Really Muslims really know their religion, they will understand by now that the caricatures by themselves are not capable of insulting the religion (the fact that the prophet does appear in other painting and such). The biggest insult to the prophet are his followers!
Guest 08-Feb-2006 03:37
what goes around comes around
Guest 07-Feb-2006 04:02
"call it nonsense because you talk about freedom unless you are not hurt by it. Do rememder that BUSH and the West called the genocide of helpless poor Iraqis as OPERATION FREEDOM. "

What is nonsense is that Muslim extremists are commiting wrongful acts towards the innocent Iraqis by blowing themselves up in Iraqi neighborhoods. What is nonsense is that Saddam Hussein (dictator aka not freedom) commited acts of genocide towards his own people (the Kurds for example). Do you now understand why the West called it Operation: Freedom?

"Freedom and enlightment is your religion."

Sorry, I guess have more hope for Islam than you do. Freedom and enlightenment is not anyone's religion, it is something we all have and come to face in human evolution.
Guest 06-Feb-2006 14:43
Freedom of speech is more important than petty religious sensitivities. Violent protests over a trivial cartoon only serve to reinforce the cartoons message, that Muslim's embrace violence as a basic tenet of their religion. Remember the Palestinians dancing when the world trade centers came down, now they protest violently over a cartoon. Obviously the cartoon hit a nerve.
hans hendriks 06-Feb-2006 11:11
Of course I've seen these already and I was also thinking putting them on my website just because
of the fact that religious fanatics get so worked up about them.
But I have to admit I was afraid of the consequences, I live in a muslim rich neighbourhood where a few
hoods already have tried to imitate the France riots.
As a non muslim I am not subject to muslim rules and I can say and think about Mohammed as I please.
And about any other so called God for that matter.
I see one of your guest writes there's no joke in islam, well he sure is right.

I just hope you don't get pbase in trouble.
yusuf 06-Feb-2006 08:17
YOU call this freedom and enlightment. Freedom and enlightment is your religion.
I do not have to believe what you believe. I do not believe your nonsense. I call it nonsense because you talk about freedom unless you are not hurt by it. Do rememder that BUSH and the West called the genocide of helpless poor Iraqis as OPERATION FREEDOM. You have the right for everything. But muslims do not have the right even for living...
LONG LIVE FREEDOM
You will come to see the reality and HAKK by yourself when you have no chance for any FREEDOM to choose it. Please do choose to choose it. Your deliverence depends on your choice of surrender to ALLAH.
Do try to understand the fact.....
Thomas Skov 05-Feb-2006 22:04
If you are in the business of burning the Danish flag, as many seems to be in these days, at least have the decency to make the flag correct before you burn it. The flag has been the symbol of the Danish king and his kingdom since 1219 and we do not like to see it in the wrong dimensions. By the way the name of the flag is Dannebrog meaning “The Danes cloth” in old nordic. To make Dannebrog in the correct dimensions the ratio between the height of the red squares and the white cross must be 6:2:6 and horizontally it must be 6:2:9. The red colour is pantone 032. Thank you for your understanding...

More information to be found here: Wikipedia on the Flag of Denmark
Guest 05-Feb-2006 07:13
Every day I see God being depicted and insulted in North America (South Park, The Simpsons, etc), but yet I don't see any significant reaction. Perhaps we have learned tolerance in a sense, but at the same time realized that having faith in ourselves is better than to have absolute faith in a religion.

Doesn't anyone notice the irony in these pictures? They are about the image Muslim extremists brought on Muslims. Now reacting to the images, the Muslim extremists are making these pictures valid. Honestly folks, this is a joke (both the pictures and the reaction). I feel sorry for Muslims with a head on their shoulders who know something about the value of freedom and life.
Guest 05-Feb-2006 05:45
Finding these cartoons offensive is just a reflection of the stupity, small mindedness and low intellect of these radical arseholes, traits used sucessfuly by their imams to further their own cause, the spread of radical islam. The koran is designed to give FEW people ALL the power. By treating the rest of the population like mushrooms - keep them in the dark and feed them a lot of bullshit - these religious leaders can control and manipulate the masses and to easily INCITE further hatred violence and terrorism. With integration with and conversion to, other faiths, so frowned upon and so severley discouraged (See poter 04 Feb 11:26, god forbid, they may open their eyes, see the light, the truth..) one must assume the inherent fear these imams have of losing control and power.
You get rid of these imams and you eliminate most of the problem.
A previous poster (04 Feb 13:00) mentioned “Freedom of decision”… Yeh, Right !, I bet if he DECIDED to go against the crowd and buy Danish, German or French products, he’d probably end up as Swiss cheese!… More like it was decided for him.
The arabic press around the world is constantly full of offensive anti-christian anti-jewish and anti-infidel propaganda these shitheads seem to propagate quite happily, yet print one cartoon depicting anti moslem sentiment and see their reaction : violent demonstrations , damage and destruction, calls for murder even of innocent people… is that what “PEACEFUL” islam is all about?
It appears that allah has already decided whom to punish.
Guest 05-Feb-2006 02:18
As a matter of principal, I'm going out tomorrow and finding a Danish product to buy, and I'm buying it. In fact I'm buying two.
Guest 04-Feb-2006 22:10
I've had it. I've tried to be fair, but the more I think about it the more I come to realize that the muslims (note use of lower case) aren't going to change. There will come a time when some moronic mullah will drop a big one on Israel (note use of upper case). Israel (note use of upper case) will retaliate big time because they have many more nukes that the imbeciles of islam (note use of lower case) will ever get their hands on. The US will weigh in, making sure that the entire middle east (note use of lower case) is incinerated. pakistan (note use of lower case) and india (note use of lower case) will face off, and shoot their works too. What's left of the ussr's (note use of lower case) nuclear aresenal will find its way out of whatever caves it's stored in, and china (note use of lower case) will finish the job. The world will then be so contaminated as to ensure the eventual extinction of the human race. And it will be a good thing because humans have made such a mess of things so as not to deserve another chance. Let the cockroaches have it. They're the only ones that will survive.

Oh and by the way don't worry about god's (note use of lower case) role in all of this because there is no god (note use of lower case). This whole universe is a fluke that is the end result of one big cosmic accident with no intelligence at all behind it. There, are you all happy now?
Guest 04-Feb-2006 20:10
When I posted my comments about the western enlightenment & science a bit earlier on I certainly didn't mean them to be read as imlpying that Islamic culture is backward. I am well aware of the great advances made in mathematics (zero and algebra) well before roman matematicians caught up ( ever tried to multiply CCVMIIV by MMCL ?). To be a bit clearer about my position: I am attacking religious fundamentalism which I think is unthinking ( in a scientific sense) and unfeeling (in just about every other sense). I know there are plenty of caring people of all religions (and of no religion); but the threat remains to freedom of expression - so satire has an important role to play (pity the cartoons are pretty second rate, but that's not the point).
mercymere 04-Feb-2006 19:39
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mercymere 04-Feb-2006 19:38
how can u respect yourself if you cann't respect your prophet;free to talk is a thing that must be stopped when it get's the others freedom.muhammed(peace be upon him) is the last messenger of god we respect him and love him and obey him we love him much much more then we love ourselves is this is wrong ?try to answer it frist after you know what's islam? don't know islam from your point of view and from ur media write to me if u wanna know what's islam
Guest 04-Feb-2006 19:32
I think god must be crying to herself at the mess us humans are making of things ;)
mercymere 04-Feb-2006 19:02
how can u respect yourself if you cann't respect your prophet;free to talk is a thing that must be stopped when it get's the others freedom.muhammed(peace be upon him) is the last messenger of god we respect him and love him and obey him we love him much much more then we love ourselves is this is wrong ?try to answer it frist after you know what's islam? don't know islam from your point of view and from ur media write to me if u wanna know what's islam
Al Coupland 04-Feb-2006 16:36
How sad that some of these people take their religion so seriously that they cannot open their eyes to see the world for what it is - people being people. I find it very difficult to sympathize with anybody that would condone killing someone(s) just for an insult. Most of us have to struggle to get by in life, why make it a meaner world?
simple question 04-Feb-2006 14:22
In many comments of our Muslim friends I see a strange and uncritical attitude against religion. One said that in the West nobody would insult Jesus in this way. He does not know that we in the west have a tradition of 300 years criticizing religion. This is one of the fundamentals of enlightenment and development. Whoever cannot criticize his own traditions, values, religions will never develop. It is our right to criticize, this is a human right. Religions can be criticized, prophets can be criticized. And our Muslim friends forget something else... in the Islamic tradition there was a lot of criticizing, the first who criticized the prophet Mohammed was his wife Aysha when she said to him that it seems that God is very hasty in fulfilling your wish, in what can be read in the traditions of Bukhari, Tabari and others.
Muslims allover the world are furious about this caricatures. In a Jordanian newspaper it was asked: what is worse for Islam: these caricatures or suicide bombings. It would have given the world a much more better image of Islam if millions of Muslims would have protested against violence and suicide bombings in the name of Islam. This is what a real peaceful religion would do. Now they are threatening other people with death, even people who have nothing at all to do with these caricatures... My simple question: is this the peaceful Islam?
Guest 04-Feb-2006 14:03
does anyone out there think that there are such things as absolute human rights? Perhaps the whole postmodernist project is destroying the "certainties" of the enlightenment (I suppose I'm thinking of science in this context). I don't suppose anyone who has ever flown in an aircraft seriously considers wheter the plane is kpet in the air by an Islamic theory of aerodynamics or, perhaps a Christian or Pagan physics. So can humanity work out for itself a comon set of uiveral principles? Science is certainly one of the great benefits flowing out of the Western enlightenment so can that be expanded into moral and social life?

Perhaps a good palse to start would be the United nations Charter of Human Rights - free speech, freedom from arbitary arrest, torture and death, the right to universal education (for both male and female), the right to food, water and shelter.

What theocracies seek to do is to deny many of these basic human rights; consider the American religious right murdering doctors working in abortion clinics, US states insisting on creationism being taught as science (which it isn't) and the exclusion of women in public life in many muslim countries. the hate being created by both the publication of these cartoons and the response to publication is one of those untidy things that liberal society throws up from time to time. We have to deal with it as a human race and that means addressing all sorts of social, political and economic oppression.

Whatever else happens, freedom of expression is under attack and does need to be defended (by the pen, oh all right - by the keyboard).
Guest 04-Feb-2006 13:55
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i think it was pretty stupid of the newpaper to publish the cartoons, fully knowing the furore this action would cause. i am sure there are better ways to defend or test out the fredom of speech. as both the parties hold firmly entrenched positions in this issue, there was no other possibility but the creation of bad blood. at the same time the islamic world has over-reacted. they should have made their displeasure known verbally but ignored the cartoons in general as mark of the insecurity of certain individuals or organizations.
Guest 04-Feb-2006 13:00
I am a Muslim, I respect the West desire for 'freedom' of speech. And we muslim have freedom of decision, My entire family has stop buying Danish products. Let see whether 'freedom of speech' is really worth it. I call every muslim to stop buying Danish products. I am sure, though we muslim are poor, collectively, our spending power can make some company in Denmark goes under. Just a note, in Islam, we don't poke fun at other religion, the people who make fun of Jews and Christianity are the westerners themselves. I don't think there is a need for Jyllands-Posten to apologize because our actions will speaks louder than words. Once again 'STOP BUYING DANISH', I think that is funny.
anti jyllands 04-Feb-2006 12:04
well well well, all u people...don't u have any business besides drawing caricatures of our prophet???all i can say is;POOR U!!!
annonymous 04-Feb-2006 12:02
u better take care of ur own GOD
ivanding 04-Feb-2006 11:26
Why don't we pause for a minutes to look at where harted had taken us... do I have to be more specific. If only some learn to respect and some learn to be calm. there are always ways to solve problems. Recently in Malaysia, we had a situation where a non Muslim wife could not bury her husband who the authorities said had converted into the Islamic Faith. This man lived with his wife as a Hindu until his death. The minority (in this case the Hindu) had no protection. Our politicians are pure cowards who are only concerned about their own pockets. The people though furious with the outcome, do not take to the streets and burn flags nor threat our neighbours with violence. we learn to be calm hoping that justice will by the Grace of God prevail. We act through the proper channels of negotioations and relevant agencies. Sadly, this act of calmness is a trait more with people who are non-muslims. Knowing Islam well, I find it difficult to fanthom how the vast majority of followers are not peace lovers. I have had first hand experince of the cruelty of Muslims and this continues even now! In our country, a Muslim is not allowed to convert. I had a Malay friend who was blundgeoned to death because he chose to be a Christian. To summarise, please my fellow muslim brothers/sisters. Do not tarnish the image of a peaceful religion. Channel your grivences through the proper channel. You will be surprised, how much success it will bring.
ivan
Mark Jackson 04-Feb-2006 09:52
Great cartoons. I loved it. I realy shows who we are dealing with in France, Germany, Iran and Syria. I am sorry for the jews who have to live with these people.
Guest 04-Feb-2006 07:37
I would like to believe that the majority of the muslim community is taking this in stride and that media is focused on the minority. Just like in all communities and religions, you have fundamentalists with a skewed Worldwiev and warped sense of what is right and wrong. Clearly, calling for the death of an editor of a newspaper in a democracy with freedom of speech is an over-reaction to say the least.
Guest 04-Feb-2006 07:35
To the person who said "Islam advocates acts of oppression, blind obedience and violence in the name of some deity"; has christianity not done the same? FROM a humanitarian (and a caucasian person of no religious assignment).
Nickolas Rostov 04-Feb-2006 05:59
There may be press freedom, but there is not much respect. Someone else's relgion should be respected as you would respect the person, whatever the religion. Muslims are not the only ones without images of God; the Jews are also, so are the Sikhs, Buddhists, and many others. If we all have to live together in this world, insulting someone's religion does not help. How sad.
annonymous 04-Feb-2006 03:01
what do u think u are!!!!! think about ur own GOD is He real for u??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
before u try to offend our feelings asa moslem,think about ur self first!!!!!!
Guest 03-Feb-2006 21:59
It is sadly frustrating to read the hateful comments on all sides of this matter. What would happen if one person said to another regardless of their respective religions, cultures, nationality, color, or whatnot, “You are my brother because we are both human beings. I will treat you decently and with respect, and you will do the same towards me because we have that one fundamental thing in common.” What good does it do the human race for people to dwell on differences rather than look for the goodness that is possible in all of us? Is it that much easier to spout hate instead of love? Is this what anyone’s God expect from us? -- John
Canberk KOÇ 03-Feb-2006 21:45
I SAİD THAT MESSAGE THE USA İS PUNİSHED BY ALLAH
Guest 03-Feb-2006 21:43
And ı think U.S.A is punished by Allah don't Forget IRAQ AND NEW ORLEANS İF THEM DON'T STOP THEİR DAMN WAR THEY WİLL PUNİSHED İN THE FUTURE AGAİN AND AGAİN AND AGAİN I PRAY FOR İT SİNCE THE U.S.A. STOP THE WAR
Guest 03-Feb-2006 21:39
Glancing at all the comments, I'm very sad to see a common theme of "US-THEMism"... i.e. muslims vs non-muslims... how can there ever be peace in the world when people think this way?
Canberk KOÇ 03-Feb-2006 21:39
Damn y'all thinkings about my prophet or others YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT THEM SO ALLAH SAY THAT İF YOU WRİTE OR CARİTCATURED THEİR FACES YOU HAVE A LOT OF BAD LETTER ABOUT YOU AND YOUR FOOL WRİTERS now you can think about your fool human rgihts and ıdon't agree your human rights because this rights is useful for rich countries unanderstanble.In my country or in other islamic people is living in human rights the best of world.Turkey and all islamic people say that SHAME ON YOU DAMN YOU.
Ahmed Gamil 03-Feb-2006 20:49
Muhammed (Peace Be Upon him) is the messenger of Allah to the whole universe to show them light and show them the way as of how to worship Allah in the right way, how to flood-light peace and love all around. If you do not believe in Allah and in his prophet (and believe me - you will loose a lot), the least you can do is to be just to him. Freedom of speech is not about making fun of Prophets of Allah. Eissa (or Jesus) is also a prophet of Allah and all muslims believe in him (as he is also a Muslim to Allah - the word muslim means self-compliant to Allah's orders). Go and read well about Islam and read from a just source - read about the Quran - read about the prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) and I bet you - you can not do anything except love and respect him. Be just and read - be genuine and look at the whole issue from a fresh-new perspective. Read to know the truth - the truth about everything - It is there in the Quran and the teachings of Muhammed (Peace be upon him).
A Muslim who loves Allah, Islam and Muhammed (Peace Be upon him)
AYSEGUL-TURKIYE 03-Feb-2006 20:38
"...WHOSOEVER KILLETH A HUMAN BEING... IT SHALL BE AS IF HE HAD KILLED ALL MANKIND, AND WHOSO SAVETH THE LIFE OF ONE, IT SHALL BE AS IF HE HAD SAVED THE LIFE OF ALL MANKIND..." HZ.MUHAMMED SAYS BEFORE 14 CENTURY....WHEN THE EUROPIANS KILLING CATS OR GIRLS (look VICTOR HUGO'S TELLING IN NOTRE DAMME DE PARIS,not me:)) because they were witches:):):)
read the LAST PROPHET'S (S.A.V.) LIFE... SO MANY TRIED AND BEGAN TO UNDERSTAND TO BE A 'HUMAN'..... YOU DON'T LOSE ANYTHING...ALTHOUGHT YOU WIN!!!
ROSEOFUNIVERSE 03-Feb-2006 20:21

http://www.islamisanat.net/3dd-esmunnabe.html
come and have a look what's writing about the word of MUHAMMED s.a.v.
THE WORLD IS GOING TO BE HARD... LIKE ANIMALS... EVERYDAY MORE ANIMALLY EMOTIONS,MORE BLOOD,MORE HATE,MORE TERROR... the Prophet says 'ALL PEOPLE ARE BROTHERS/SISTERS...'

Guest 03-Feb-2006 19:37
The previous post claiming muslims would consider it an outrage is not true. Muslims would accept the fact that the Jews and Christians would be outraged but the terror whores(muslims) would be happy to see their self-claimed enemies fretting over caricatures of what they consider holy.
I view islam as the devil's milk of religion since it advocates acts of oppression, blind obedience and violence in the name of some deity other than than GOD. Just look at the reactions and cries of the terror community(muslims) This should serve as a reminder of what we in the west can expect if we continue to tolerate the religion of hate. I only hope that the west wakes up and realizes the only way to accomodate Islam is to wipe it from the face of the earth. Oh yeah, mohammed was the offspring of a jackal and allah was the unemployed river deity. If allah is damend great, why are the muslim countries so far behind the rest of the world in terms of polite and civilised societies? Why are their countries poor and their women opporessed? allah is nothing more than the figment of some sunbaked idiot who didn't have the sense to stay out of the heat of the desert sun. His followers are just as stupid.
Is that blasphemous enough for you terror whores?
Guest 03-Feb-2006 19:20
all muslims would consider it outrage if similar caricatures of Jesus Christ or Moses were posted.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 18:34
Religions are the worse illness of mankind. All religions aim to take off brains from every man and every woman. If you use tour brains a bit, you see there is ne need to believe, there is nothing to believe in. You don't need any god to be a good person. How much wars, how many people killed in the name of God? It's a shame, being a responsible man, to believe in all that rubbish. I can't have any respect for those that do no trust in man. Religion knocks down all the best in mankindf. Religion is silly. Religion is evil.
Misha 03-Feb-2006 18:29
And to think that God doesn't even exist... Makes all this a bit of a laughing matter. Hahaha...
AYSEGUL-TURKIYE 03-Feb-2006 18:25
the europian (in this subject) looks like just g.w.bush,not so much being a human....
people died in wars,that human-out people say:human rights are here...people died because from food shortage,they say:human rights,we'll give u food,don't worry...people died because of diseaseS,they say:don't worry humanbeings!! europe is here...!!!! HAHAHA we hadn't forgetten died in CRUSADER wars in last centruies on muslims???? that's the two-faced europa and those are all the two-faced human belong that lier civilization of lier europa....
you are just feeding yourselves stomach and never mind in which situations the other innocent people are ; in the other half of the world,the real human's world.... so all it's quite normal to hidden the words 'human and newspapers right's' you are have not a brain to think about people or muslims'believes.... you are not human so it's quite normal can not to think about humanism.. you are the real responsibles all bloods in the world.... not a difference between bush or these carucature's maker,or these countries or vampire-bat.... you are the vampires that absorbes the world's blood vessels.... ESHEDU ENLA LA ILAHE ILLALLAH MUHAMMEDEN ABDUHU VE RASULUH...(ALLAH IS THE ONE AND MUHAMMED IS A PROPHET AND A DELEGATE) THAN IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE A TERRORIST AND A MUSLIM IN THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THE KUR'AN SAYS: PERSON WHO KILLS THE OTHER ONE IS GUILTY AS KILLING ALL WORLD, PERSON WHO RESCUES ANOTHER ONE IS WELL AS RESCUING ALL WORLD
from now on the muslim world... being yourself!!! and live a muslim like a honorable person...NOT SCURVY CARUCARURES,BUSH OR LADIN!!!!!! BE REAL MUSLIM AND SHOW ALL!!!
Guest 03-Feb-2006 17:49
You muslims(terrorists) need to get over yourself. You are not as important in our western culture as you like to think. Indeed, the only reason we tolerate your stupidity is because our leaders are weak and we need the oil that you terrorist pissants produce.
I never hear of outrage when your ilk burns synagogues or churches. Where is the outrage when your terrorbuddies kill innocents in the vain hopes of eternal sex? If you want to be integrated into the modern civilised world, you are going to have to realize that you and your false religion are not above ridicule and blasphemy. Jews and Christians have learned to tolerate and accept it. While they may boycott, they don't go around killing and shooting the perpetrators of blasphemies.
Get a grip and lose the terror mentality you idiots have cultivated.
GUEST 03-Feb-2006 17:48
Muslims should return to Muslim nations and live in peace. They do not seem capable of integrating into Western societies. Why do they leave their homelands in the firstplace ? Is there a better way of life than an Islamic culture in their native land?
Ayham 03-Feb-2006 17:08
stop stop all this stupid ideas........ danish stupid journalist !!
Guest 03-Feb-2006 17:02
why it's to hard to say sorry , if you insult somebody
normanov 03-Feb-2006 16:59
i wish that the lord help prsident george w bush to clean this world of terrorism......i would like to ask a question: had u ever seen a christian people acting as terrorisme?
normanov 03-Feb-2006 16:58
i wish that the lord help prsident george w bush to clean this world of terrorism......i would like to ask a question: had u ever seen a christian people acting as terrorisme?
Guest 03-Feb-2006 16:58
i wish that the lord help prsident george w bush to clean this world of terrorism......i would like to ask a question: had u ever seen a christian people acting as terrorisme?
Guest 03-Feb-2006 16:48
I just want to thank you for making these images available....I have read all the news stories, and now I have seen the images. It is amazing to see all the HATE that comes from a people that claim to be non-violent! It is not right for anyone to make fun of anothers culture, religion or belief system....BUT IT HAPPENS! This is no reason for a group of people to call for the deaths of individuals or other groups. One of my best friends is a Muslim...and he will forget at times and take stabs at my belief system....DO I WANT TO KILL HIM FOR THAT? The answer is NO! We live in a world that Breeds IGNORANCE....It is ALL AROUND US. I have an interacial marriage and I have had to deal with IGNORANCE from my OWN family.

The images are not very fun for the Muslim world to see, but rather than resort to HATE and VIOLENCE...Lets Teach the world and GET RID OF THE IGNORANCE OF THE WORLD!!!
786 03-Feb-2006 16:46
May Allah have mercy on the souls who did this and the ones who agree to it and spare them on the day of resurrection
Guest 03-Feb-2006 16:26
James Gilray, Les gibbard, Zac, Steve Bell, Austin etc. etc. give a lie to the oppressive illiberal and unthinking (and synthetic) outrage occasioned by these cartoons. Liberal society is under threat, perhaps all newspapers in all countries should publish these cartoons. Just think, I thought that the gains of teh enlightenment were secure and irreversable and now we've got the Fundamentalist christian right and fundamenatalist muslims hell bent on taking us back to the dark ages (or worse). Damn them all.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 16:26
James Gilray, Les gibbard, Zac, Steve Bell, Austin etc. etc. give a lie to the oppressive illiberal and unthinking (and synthetic) outrage occasioned by these cartoons. Liberal society is under threat, perhaps all newspapers in all countries should publish these cartoons. Just think, I thought that the gains of teh enlightenment were secure and irreversable and now we've got the Fundamentalist christian right and fundamenatalist muslims hell bent on taking us back to the dark ages (or worse). Damn them all.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 16:09
I agree with many of the above postings that this jarring reaction in the Muslim world reveals the fact that many in the Muslim world do not understand one of the basic principles of Western culture that has been with us since the Enlightenment: freedom of speech and expression. Christians, Jews and Hindus are routinely insulted in the Western (and Islamic) press, but you do not find, for example, Catholics calling for the death of a newspaper editor for the poking fun of a pope. This is because the West is a secular culture which means that although individual citizens can be religious, religious law should not determine how politics and society are run. Religious people in the West are therefore tolerant (a key word here) of secularism which allows cartoons like the ones under debate to be printed and widely circulated. The only exception to this rule is explicit hate material against religious, racial or other minorities and it does not appear that these cartoons can possibly be read this way. To cave into pressure from the Islamic world at this point about these cartoons would be rencouncing the West's two hundred and fifty year old heritage of freedom of expression that European and other western countries have fought so hard to maintain.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 15:53
Yes indeed, it's very easy to spot the stupid people of the world. They use metaphors about raping somebody's mother to discuss issues such as "human Rights".
Guest 03-Feb-2006 15:52
I agree with many of the above postings that this jarring reaction in the Muslim world reveals the fact that many in the Muslim world do not understand one of the basic principles of Western culture that has been with us since the Enlightenment: freedom of speech and expression. Christians, Jews and Hindus are routinely insulted in the Western (and Islamic) press, but you do not find, for example, Catholics calling for the death of a newspaper editor for the poking fun of a pope. This is because the West is a secular culture which means that although individual citizens can be religious, religious law should not determine how politics and society are run. Religious people in the West are therefore tolerant (a key word here) of secularism which allows cartoons like the ones under debate to be printed and widely circulated. The only exception to this rule is explicit hate material against religious, racial or other minorities and it does not appear that these cartoons can possibly be read this way. To cave into pressure from the Islamic world at this point about these cartoons would be rencouncing the West's two hundred and fifty year old heritage of freedom of expression that European and other western countries have fought so hard to maintain.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 15:49
The guest poster at 03 Feb 2000 03:10 said "As far as I know there is no single instruction in Islam to murder or sucide in the name of Islam."
Read this passage. Koran 9:5 "Kill the unbeliever wherever you find them, capture & beseige them, and for them, prepare every kind of ambush." This looks like an order for murder to me. The Muslim poster apparently doesn't know what his own Koran says.
Tarek Seoud 03-Feb-2006 14:36
well , I'm a muslem , I live in Egypt , best of my friends are Christians , I read the holy book (old and new testemens ) several times , I respect all profets not just moses , jesus,and mohamed ( peace be upon them all ) .
first I have to confiss that we suffer from lots of wrong ways to role , live , think in our Arabic countries , it's normal , most of these countries got independence from you near time and it logically needs time to reach the democracy you say we don't have it , you had your own time too .
I always considered western countries specially France an idol we should take with our islamic belifs , I always belived that they have freedom for all religions ,
as a muslem , my religion tells me to respect other religions ( don't insult other's gods so they will insult God ignorantly ), my Koran said , and ( don't compare me with my brother moses and say I'm the best , I'm just a son for a poor woman used to live in Mekkah ) , Mohammed Said , also ( The profet belives in what was sent to him from his God , and also all the profits did , all belives in God , his angels , his Books , his messengers , we don't discriminate between the any of his profets ) koran said , so I have to belive in all books and all profets .
now I need to ask some questions , since we all suffer from those who use the name of Islam for terrorism , is true to give them the chance , to creat people to hate you ? , can this freedom of speach publish anything makes doubts about jewish victims of nazism ? , can a muslem living in Arab Islamic country Publish the same about jesus ? no
belive me moslems are to act the same if a moslem published this about Jesus ( peace be upon him ) in our countries itself ,
what I want to say is that you made it upside down , you accuse moslems with violence forgetting the cause for it , if you realy want to know how those caricatures hurt moslems all over the world , you have to know more about Islam , since I think not so many people will try to , I just want you to discuss it with yourselves , is it right to hurt people because they are just moslems ? is right to call them idiots because they didn't get enough education yet because time lost being occupied ?, is it their fault being born in poor countries ?, is right to help making radicals ? is right to widen Gap between religions ? is it really true you can write about all issues in your papers or thier are forbidden areas even for you ?
I'll let you answer these questions yourself so you can judge these caricatures also yourself
I'm so sorry to take all this area and time and thank you all for tolerating me till the end
at last , ( what is good to love your relative ? , love your enemies and bless those who call you names , that's the way for God ) , jesus said ,( Peace be upon him and our profit .
Guest 03-Feb-2006 14:35
This is a sad situation. I doubt that the journalists who created these caricatures even knew, let alone appreciated, that Islam prohibits depictions of their prophets as a means to avoid idolatry. This is a style of discipline that is seems foreign to other cultures.

In my own Asian-based tradition, the founder's image can be found in countless pictures and statues. This is because seeing the founder's image brings blessings. But defamations of His image would hurt a lot of feelings worldwide.

Yet the journalists claim free speech and cite politically motivated acts of violence by Islamic extremists. But by creating religiously inappropriate images, they have managed to insult the worldwide Islamic faith, while their intentions were venomous political.

This is like saying that everyone who speaks English are idiots.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 13:23
PLEASE NOTICE!!!

PROPHETS WERE GOOD-LOOKING, BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE...ALL OF THEM...THESE DRAWINGS ARE UGLY...

YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO DRAW BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE AS UGLY ONES...


Guest 03-Feb-2006 12:59
Sticks and stones can break my bones, but names will never hurt me. Think again.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 12:58
Hate is a two way street. You get what you give. Someone once said, It's better to give than receive. Muslims sure can dish it out but can't take it. This must be kindergarden all over again.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 12:51

If there were a more visible outrage from the larger Muslim community to the hate, intolerance, violence, etc. that is perpetrated by the radicals in the name of Islam, then many more would say "Yes, these cartoons are in bad taste, insulting, etc." But what the world gets is largely silence or worse, demonstrated support from the Muslim masses whenever the radicals’ own intolerance manifests itself through violence in word and deed. This silence makes it easy for many non-Muslims to paint the whole of the religion with the same brush used to create the cartoons. Muslims have to ask themselves why is it that there is this anti-Muslim sentiment, and then be prepared to hear the answers.

The only way to put a stop to radical Islam is for there to be a groundswell of outrage from the larger Muslim community that violence and hate are not core values of Islam. When the world sees the peaceful side of Islam on a broad front, watch how the world’s other cultures and religions begin to show the desired respect. Threats, boycotts, and worse will only reinforce negative perceptions of Islam.

Respect is not unconditional. It must have a foundation in basic human rights, non-violence, and tolerance for all. The same goes for all religions, cultures and nations that desire respect. -- John
cihan demir 03-Feb-2006 12:21
l love people but not you l want to say to you read my prophet life then you can think who is he?we shy how our phophet face to thinking?but you don't recpect my religion believe me you will give all things but now you made holes on the door if you say yourself l wish l don't do it.when you want to erase this mistakes you can't erase exatly if you full the holes but there are the point of holes...l don't say to you bad things l know you don't know my book if you knew that you cried but we have a right when somebody say lie things about who we like we listen other people we behave nicely even who behave badly for us.dirty is not clean with dirty we are clean side who know or not.we cant give penalty for you because your situation is already is penalty you don't know what is my religion?how can you want from our Creater forgiving when you death?l want to say to you all of things world,moon,sun,paradise... e.t.c.created for him.l think you you don't know what islam mean? it is peace in english.do you know when we say the prophet name we say(s.a.v.)it is mean peace to be upon him.l worry what is your capasity thinking really do you thing how did you think my prophet is like this l hope you can understand one time...
simple question 03-Feb-2006 11:43
A simple question to Muslims: you insist that your religions is peace... on one of the caricatures you can see Mohammeds turban as a bomb... this caricature aims to criticize the extremists who in the name of Islam abuse their peaceful religion for terrorist attacks and suicide bombings....your reaction to this justified criticism is boycotting, threatening peoples lifes and bombing.... what do you expect for the image of Islam and Muslims in the West after such a violent reaction? They will think that this caricature is true because the Muslims proved it to be true...
Guest 03-Feb-2006 09:07
Is it really about freedom of speech? Can anybody say anything he wants in the west? Is it okay to offend anybody in the west without any legal cosequences?
edge 03-Feb-2006 08:57
The Pro-Islamic/Anti-Danish comments show a level of sophistication that boggles one's mind. The carictures seemed crude to me at first. But those spewing hatemongers clearly demonstrate that there is more to those drawings than anyone could hope or fear for. Sad, sad, sad!
Guest 03-Feb-2006 08:52
Walla thats Haraam!!!!It is unrespectful!Especially now, u can see that theere are many crises in the Near East and that shows only th distance between the west and the eastern countrys.The religion of every human beeing have to be respectful.No Muslim have said anything to christains or other religions!I hope they get punished for that what they did!It is not acceptable.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 06:36
Muslims have no respect for other cultures - just look how easy and acceptable it is for muslims to use the word "infidel". I'm not a "non-believer", I just don't believe the same things you do. Christians don't have an equivalent derogatory name for Muslims. It is Muslims that need to start respecting the beliefs of others, not the other way around.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 06:36
Muslims have no respect for other cultures - just look how easy and acceptable it is for muslims to use the word "infidel". I'm not a "non-believer", I just don't believe the same things you do. Christians don't have an equivalent derogatory name for Muslims. It is Muslims that need to start respecting the beliefs of others, not the other way around.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 06:34
Muslims have no respect for other cultures - just look how easy and acceptable it is for muslims to use the word "infidel". I'm not a "non-believer", I just don't believe the same things you do. Christians don't have an equivalent derogatory name for Muslims. It is Muslims that need to start respecting the beliefs of others, not the other way around.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 06:33
Caricatures were posted in the West, in a democratic country. Christianity is caricatured all the time, no threats come from Vatican though. Muslims can live the way they like in their land but have no right to impose their beliefs in the West. But they do precisely because the West is so tolerant! Any other religion byt islam is banned in Saudi Arabia but even a slightest criticism of Islam is not permitted in the West. Slowly, they are imposing on us their rules. They abuse precisely our freedom of speech, movement, our democracy every day to undermine our society from within. All these Danish imams who demand apologies, they are abroad after all, they profit and take advantage of Danish liberties to destroy them. Helene.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 06:31
Muslims have no respect for other cultures - just look how easy and acceptable it is for muslims to use the word "infidel". I'm not a "non-believer", I just don't believe the same things you do. Christians don't have an equivalent derogatory name for Muslims. It is Muslims that need to start respecting the beliefs of others, not the other way around.
The Egyptian 03-Feb-2006 05:55
Although I'm not a muslim, I think that the caricaturist and the press who published this drawings have a poor imagination to find new ideas and topics for their publishing to attract more readers, they tried to increase their sales through a cheap way..so they turned to the most sensitive and respectable side of the human being which is his believes..The true human right and human civilization is to live among people with different believes and religions without questionning or even mentioning these believes..There are a lot of aspects in human life which deserve to be discussed and improved rather than insulting othrers believes..This is the way it should be..and enough creating more hate between religions..
Durgan 03-Feb-2006 05:36
Only an idiot would find these cartoons offensive.If the poor old Moslems cannot take that tough tity.It is time these people grew up and opended their minds. Several of the cartoons are pithy and quite truthful to some degree. Every cartoon I have ever seen is insulting to somebody to some degree- so what? The reaction of the Moslem community only makes them appear silly, and hardens attitudes towards their cause-whatever it may be.

Anybody who advocates strapping bombs to their body, and blowing up innocents at random should be exposed to all the caricatures freedom loving people can devise.

Incidentially Freedom of the Press is all a crock. I read many newpapers, and find they all have an agenda, often lying by ommission, and/or biasing the story geared with the intent of convincing the reader. It has always been that way and always will. That is a fact of life.
Durgan.
Durgan 03-Feb-2006 05:36
Only an idiot would find these cartoons offensive.If the poor old Moslems cannot take that tough tity.It is time these people grew up and opended their minds. Several of the cartoons are pithy and quite truthful to some degree. Every cartoon I have ever seen is insulting to somebody to some degree- so what? The reaction of the Moslem community only makes them appear silly, and hardens attitudes towards their cause-whatever it may be.

Anybody who advocates strapping bombs to their body, and blowing up innocents at random should be exposed to all the caricatures freedom loving people can devise.

Incidentially Freedom of the Press is all a crock. I read many newpapers, and find they all have an agenda, often lying by ommission, and/or biasing the story geared with the intent of convincing the reader. It has always been that way and always will. That is a fact of life.
Durgan.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 04:58
when it came up to insulting others believes, it's no such think as freedom of speech, it's freedom to hurt others.
and calling the people whom go out and protest idiots... tss i bet you will never do such thing, so a peace of advise, just relax in your hiding place and leave the prouds express their anger from pussyheads like you.. you're the biggest idiot here my friend.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 04:58
I think the cartoon was not a funny joke to anyone, it may have been a non efficient way to express hatred towards muslims. I can hardly recall any artist making fun of Jewish religion!! Someone wanted to get famous the easy way, very cheap way of doing it, unfortuantly all it will do is widen the gap between us and them and it will cause nothing but more hatred, economic loss and political sensetivity. Very ingnorant and disrespectful in my opinion and i hate to say it, but some people continue to wonder why do some muslims dislike westernization.
please try to omit any profanities so, hopefully we can get more opinions on this site.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 03:10
For your web site I could have a look to the cartoons. Its really important for me to know about the caricatures, since CNN BBC is making this a headline. But what I want to say is; the cartoons are really offensive to muslims. And depicting Prophet (Sm) a suicide bomber is really critical. As far as I know there is no single instruction in Islam to murder or sucide in the name of Islam. It is a really tough time for muslims and people from west. There are lots of misunderstanding. In this vulnerable time depicting prophet a bomber would just widen the gap more. It will not heal anything. And we muslims are partially responsible to give people of america and europe a wrong concept about islam. But posting harsh message to islam and/or to european is not the solution. And if you talk about the freedon of press, you surely have the right to say anything you like. But you have to be responsible for what you do. I think, who can publish a caricature of Mohammed(sm) has the clear understanding of what does symbolic picture presentaion of Allah and prophet(sm) to muslims. And to stay in a harmony I think it's better to avoid hurting others belief. You europeans need oil to run your economy and that is supplied from us. And we need your democracy and technology.Why just blaming and interchanging hard words....
Guest 03-Feb-2006 02:40
we strongly condemn the cartoons of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) .... and you will NOT print them again...

if you think its a freedom of speech, then just think .. the same cartoon for yours / your mother / your prime minister / Jesus / Mosses / Ibrahim ... do NOT do that again otherwise you will be punished by ALLAH in this world and hereafter ....
Guest 03-Feb-2006 02:20
Thanks for posting. Obviously any other religios group would have heatedly debated you over the same controversy. Guess what, once gain muslims show their true violent nature by reacting with force, hatred and death wishes. what happened to the "Islam is a faith of piece"? Freedom of speech has no boundaries and truly free countries should not apologize.
tukuma 03-Feb-2006 01:50
though not a muslim, I find myself leaning towards the idea that the cartoons that appeared in the paper are unjustifiable. We must accept that we live in an era with high tensions between the east and the west. It seems foolish to antogonise this situation further, merely to use free speech. It seems that the christain religion has been so desanctified, that we have no issue in the west with peoples beliefs being ridiculed. Yet, i firmly believe that any responsible newspaper would respect the beliefs of others. Freedom of speech ought not to be used to cause distress to other people. Denmark is a country suffering from a lack of integration amongst its immigrant population, and I fail to see how this can have helped the situation.
Though there are good points on either side of the debate, surely a human understanding of world affairs as they are at present ought to have given someone at Jyllands Post the sense to question the printing of this material.
I would also take issue with any irreverence shown towards other faiths, and believe that faith is something that should be debated with respect, and not flippantly. i fear that denmark will have future problems as a result of this aaction, but hope that those offended by the material will seek to educate rather than seek revenge. Moderation and understanding is needed on both sides.
Guest 03-Feb-2006 00:13
Ahhh, new screen savers!
Guest 03-Feb-2006 00:12
You may call this freedom, but mark this. You will end up creating a hell right here. There is no limit to freedom. There are no boundaries. If this or rest ever is okay, why make any law or rules, because you do not have any religion. Go ahead and make any obscene caricature of anything.

Islam is a core religion. Rest you all, do not have any basis left in your faith. That is why you play with everything. I suggest you first completely dump your faith, christianity or whatever and then turn to Islam to have fun with or with muslims.

Islam is life. There is no joke in Islam.

Non muslims, really!. See for youself, you do not have any life.
Malcolm Ward 02-Feb-2006 23:28
Jyllands-Posten had well articulated its position as founded upon core principles of the Western world: “We must quietly point out here that the drawings illustrated an article on the self-censorship which rules large parts of the Western world. Our right to say, write, photograph and draw what we want to within the framework of the law exists and must endure — unconditionally!” Juste added: “If we apologize, we go against the freedom of speech that generations before us have struggled to win.” Couldn't have put it better myself. It's ridiculous to be offended by these (not particularly good) cartoons and outrageous to threaten and intimidate people because of them.
Guest 02-Feb-2006 23:04
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