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* update 2009.06.14 / 25b. Fuji F200 EXR and image quality (updated twice on the same day)
* update 2009.03.15 / 25.Conclusion - small update to comparison
against Canon G10 and Panasonic LX3
* update 2009.03.01 / 5.Contrast and metering - about the contrast
curve of F100fd vs Canon G10 and
Panasonic LX3
* update 2009.03.01 / 25.Conclusion - comparison to other
cameras
* update 2008.09.10 / pink band example with firmware v1.02
* update 2008.08.30 / Image quality section,
blotching (fix example) and
pink band (fix example) updated
* update 2008.08.24 / DR 200% and 400% and blotching updated
* update 2008.08.17 / conclusion updated and DR 200%
and 400% updated
* update 2008.08.13 / Some small additions to text in 15. Image
quality (differences to TZ3)
and link to Neatimage noise profiles in 26a. My post processing workflow
* update 2008.08.09 / chapters of the text organized to a more logical order
* update 2008.08.08 / text about post processing F100fd images
Introduction ^
This is a review of the Fuji F100fd, which is a compact camera with 1/1.6" size sensor and a 28-140mm zoom lens. The camera provides
sensitivities of ISO 100 to 3200
with full resolution and ISO 6400 and 12800 with 3MP resolution. I will try to keep this review as concise as possible, as most of
the people reading this text will
have basic information about the camera and photography in general. Some of the text in this review (like post processing workflow)
has been copied and modified with
small alterations/updates from my earlier F30 review. If you are interested in looking at the Fuji F30 review (some comparison to
DSLR at ISO 100 etc), click here. Be noted, that the following observations come from someone, who
uses and likes to
use post processing programs to improve images. I don't want the camera's output image to be ready for print, I want it to be the
kind that can be tuned in to the
best
possible with a *little* work. So, if you want to use your camera for happy snap-shooting, without worrying about post processing at
all, there may be some text that
you want to skip. First, we'll begin this review by talking about what the camera should be and what it isn't.
Cons, annoyances and missing features of the Fuji F100fd ^
Fuji announced this camera as "the ultimate ‘F Series’ digital camera", "the most accomplished model in the range yet", "one of the
most sophisticated compact digital
cameras Fujifilm has ever produced", "the perfect camera for the serious photographer looking for a no-compromise compact digital
camera that is well above the
average
model". This is misleading and very very close to lying (and can be seen depending on point of view as outright lying). As Fuji
markets the camera as the ultimate F-
series
camera, I'm going to pay a little closer attention to what is missing here. Also, if someone is willing to translate this review to
japanese and read it to the Fuji
F-
series project manager, I'd be delighted. Just drop me a note if you do so!
- Reduced features
Compared to F30/31, Fuji has removed the EV-button and Aperture and Shutter speed modes and the Aperture iris. The camera auto
selects from two possible aperture
"holes".
This clearly limits the camera's functionality.
- Lack of a histogram
One of the most serious shortcomings of the camera is the (STILL) missing histogram. There is no live or display histogram, which is
frankly unbelievable in this time
and
age of the digital camera. The F100fd's LCD has a poor dynamic range - it clips the highlights and the shadows and this makes
determining proper exposure hard.
Combined
with the missing histogram, it makes one of the most important aspects of photography - achieving correct exposure - unnecessarily
challenging. There is also no
exposure
bracketing mode, which is also a shame.
- Handling
The usability of the camera is below average. There is no dedicated EV button, which is a shame and serious limitation. The exposure
correction setting needs to be
accessed
from the menu-button via a 2 second push. Then you need an additional push of the same button and then you get to change the value.
This is unnecessarily slow.
Also,
after and image is taken, it is impossible to acces the menus while the camera is writing the photo to the memory card (a few
seconds). So, after you take a picture
it
takes about 4-5 seconds before you can take another photo with a different exposure! It is frustrating in a situation where you need
to take several photos because of
challenging exposure or after you find that the image has been over- or underexposed.
- Lack of a menu wheel
Instead of a conventional menu wheel (where you can select the shooting mode, movie mode, night mode, etc) the Fuji F100fd has a
"virtual menu wheel" that is
displayed on
the LCD. A conventional, manual menu wheel would be MUCH more convenient and faster to use! Using a manual wheel you can access most
common features fast - like the
movie
mode, instead of shufling through the menu list.
- Continuous shooting
Continuous shooting mode is turned off, when the power is turned off. The exposure compensation value and white balance setting are
kept in memory after swithcing the
camera off, but the continuous shooting mode is not. It needs to be switched on every time (this is something that has made me say
"arrrrggh!" several times...) *IF*
it was
necessary to
reset one of those settings, it should be the other way round - the WB should be reset to Auto WB and the Continuous shooting mode
should be kept in memory! I can't
see a
reason for automatically switching it off. In practice, the contiuous shooting mode is not very handy (competing brands usually
feature better continuous shooting
modes).
It can only take a series of 3 shots OR a long (slower) series, where focus is set differently for each photo.
- Megapixel madness
I admit that this is something of a contagious disease in the digital camera business, but nevertheless it should not mean that
camera performance is getting worse
compared
to previous models! 12 megapixels is unnecessary. High ISO quality (ISO 800 and up) has decreased since F30/F31 cameras because of
increased pixel count. At pixel
level, I
often get the feeling that the images are not as sharp as the F30 images, but the resolution of the F100fd is still equivalent to
the F30 (or better), as the images
have a
little more detail and look a little sharper than the F30 images when resized to 6 megapixels. This is true at lower ISO's of 100-
400. At ISo 800 and up the F30
images
start to look better, because they have less noise.
- Limited shutter speed
The longest available time of exposure is 1/4 seconds in modes besides the Night mode.
- Night shooting mode
The low light shooting of F100fd really has been screwed up, because of restrictions to shutter speed and ISOs available. The ISO
can not be manually selected in
night shot mode, it is automatically set between 100-200. In night shooting mode the exposure can not be set manually for shorter
than 1 second exposures (the camera
auto exposes for 1/4 to 1 second exposures). For exposures longer than 1 second, the exposure on the other hand MUST be set
manually. Auto exposure is available for
night shots of under 1 second, but then the exposure value (EV) can not be changed! There is no manual shutter speed setting for
shots shorter 1 second. Also (this is
important) there is no dark frame substraction, which results in many bright pixels in long exposures. The Night shot mode is a
strangely crippled feature. What a
shame.
- Flash
The flash is underpowered. Not that I use the flash ( I almost never do), but those that do use it may be interested in knowing,
that in EVERY situation that I've
tried
the flash, it fails to give enough power.
- Lack of manual focus
No manual focus possibility. Why?! This should be an easy addition to the menus and it would make taking quick snaps of Night
Scenery, photos with critical timing,
etc etc
so much easier and faster.
- Lack of an exposure lock button
There is no way to lock exposure and recompose the image (set focus and exposure on different areas). This is something that a
camera intended for _photography_
should
have.
- No iris diaphragm. No shutter speed or aperture modes
I already mentioned this, but let's think this over more closely. This results in limited control of Depth Of Field or Shutter
speed. Compact cameras mostly have very
limited possibilities to control the DOF, but when taking pictures of people the photographer still usually want's to minimize DOF
and this is now impossible. Where
the DOF
is most visibly controllable by the photographer, is the macro mode. In the macro mode (or
just close up shots - macro is commonly referred to photographs with 1:1 magnification) it is in my opinion most important with a
compact camera to have control over
DOF.
The macro mode gives the shortest DOF and here the user often want's to mimimize OR maximize the DOF, depenging on the
subject being photographed or the effect desired. With the F100fd, it is impossible to control the DOF and the camera autoselects
the aperture from (only) the two
aperture
holes available.
- Lack of adjustable image parameters
There is still no possibility to change sharpening / contrast / saturation settings (no F-series Fuji camera has this option).
- Errors with 8G Micro SD cards
There are read/write errors with 8GB Class 6 Micro SD cards and they have been widely reported, but Fuji has not announced
incompatibility with any 8GB cards, nor has
it
released a firmware fix to resolve this! I have also personally found the errors with Class 6 8Gb Micro SD cards to be true. This is
just unacceptable behaviour from
Fuji
and is something that will not build Fuji's reputation as a camera manufacturer.
- Sensor overheating (pink band)
Last, but maybe not least, a shortcoming that is perhaps the most discussed on the forums: left side sensor overheating. Well, at
least I presume the phenomenon is
related to sensors over
heating, faulty connectors or something like that. Anyway, the result is a visible, transparent magenta hued glow of approximately
100-200 pixels of width on the left
hand side of the image. It does
not trouble all images - it is usually rare to see the pink band in everyday photography, but then again it depends on what kind of
situtations you use the camera in.
Most commonly the pink
band seems to appear, when shutter speed is 1/4 or near that value with ISO's of 400 or higher. But sometimes the pink band can also
appear with the lower ISOs (to
lesser extent) and with
faster shutter speeds with the higher ISOs. There's more about the pink band later in the text.
Pros and nice things about the Fuji F100fd ^
There's a lot missing from the F100fd, but if detailed and noise-free images (compared to other compact cameras) are your biggest
concern, at least here the Fuji
delivers.
+ Image quality
The image quality is good with ISO 100 - 400. Optical quality is good, there is very little CA and purple fringing - a visible
improvement to F30. There is less noise
than
with other (current) compact cameras. Very good ISO 100. Overall image quality is very good for a compact camera. The images are not
oversaturated. In-camera
sharpening is
done just right, as it was with F30/F31 cameras. There is no need to sharpen in post processing for most uses. There are also no
disturbing sharpening halos to be
seen -
most competition does worse in this respect.
+ Size
The camera can be carried in the front pocket of jeans and still it has better lens than previous F-series cameras. It's small
enough for me.
+ Versatile lens
28mm - 140mm in a very compact size is pretty good. Also, at least this camera has a passable image stabilization, although it is
worse than competion (Canon and
Panasonic).
+ Exposure and focus accuracy
Exposure is usually pretty accurate and focus is accurate and fast.
+ Battery
The battery is not the best there is, but it's actually better than it's reputation. I get 400-500 shots with a single charge, which
is more than I've seen stated.
Two
batteries get you through a day of shooting, which is pretty good for a battery of this size. Not that I don't wish for the battery
to be better - the F30's battery
perfomance was simply incredible.
contrast and metering ^
(updated 2009/03/01)
Metering in general is reasonably accurate. Sometimes there is the need to apply extreme positive exposure correction, but besides
that, the metering seems pretty
reliable. Dynamic range is not bad for a compact camera, but now that I've compared to Panasonic LX3 and Canon G10, the contrast
curve on the F100fd is stronger than
in the other two. Dynamic range is not worse than average of digital cameras or the Fuji F30.
There seems to be surprisingly little difference in the "Multi" and Average metering modes. It is usually hard to tell the
difference bewtween the modes in practice, but when photographing high contrast scenes, the Multi metering mode seems to be more
reliable (and results in less burning of highlights).
In ordinary daylight shots, the exposure is usually pretty accurate, but in some situations (like backlit subjects or scenes with
lots of white, etc) the images are easily underexposed a bit more than usual. In some situations the F100fd tends to underexpose so
severely, that the exposure should be corrected by more than the available +2 EV. In a way, the camera does not let the user
overexpose the shots, which is limiting, because sometimes the image just needs to be overexposed!
Contrast curve of the F100fd
How you feel about the contrast depends on what you are comparing to, really. Compared to compact cameras in general, contrast is on
a reasonable level. Compared to
advanced cameras like Canon G10 and Panasonic LX3, the contrast curve is a bit high and actually seems to affect shadows and
midtones more than hilights. If you don't want to post process images and manage to expose the F100fd image properly, it will look
good and probably better then G10 or LX3 out of camera, because of the higher contrast. Then again, if you wan't to post process
images and want well balanced exposure and want to retain shadow detail, then the G10 and LX3 will have the advantage.
After comparing F100fd images to Canon G10 and Panasonic LX3, it looks that low key and otherwise dark toned images from F100fd are
1/3 stops, maybe 1/2 stops less
exposed in general than images from the other two. In these cases the F100fd gives the impression of having a less sensitive sensor
than some other cameras. This is
probably due to two factors: 1) Most importantly in regards to exposure, the camera has quite a strong contrast curve, which
darkens shadows and and even
midtones more than for example Panasonic LX3 and Canon G10 and on the other hand brightens highlights. 2) on the other hand
the camera's tendency to
underexpose to avoid clipping highlights may make the effect a bit stronger in practical photography situations (for example scenes
with strong light sources).
For example: With high key images the exposure seems to be pretty well matched with for example LX3, but contrast is a bit higher on
the F100fd image. In a low key
image (with information concentrated on the 2/3 left side of the histogram), the F100fd may well appear to 1/3 to 1/5 stops
underexposed in comparison to a LX3 image,
even though exposure is exactly the same.
In practice, when trying to match the general exposure to match other cameras, the F100fd would have to be exposed for a a bit
longer period. In post processing, when
trying to get a properly balanced photo with good shadow detail, the shadows have to be brightened. When applying a +1/3 to +1/2 EV
direct exposure correction, the
F100fd image is usually on the level of LX3 or G10 when looking at shadows or midtones, but the highlights (upper third of the
histogram) may be overexposed.
Naturally a curve or shadow/hilight feature (or some variant) should be used instead to retain the hilight detail).
That said, the contrast curve does leave room for post processing without producing overly flat images, but I wish that the camera
had a user adjustable amount of contrast. G10 and LX3 will often have more post processing latitude because of a less steep contrast
curve. In practice, because of the nature of F100fd's metering
system and the way it's dealing with exposure and hilights, the highlights are usually preserved quite well, but on the cost of some
shadow detail. It really is a
shame that the camera does not have a histogram, because it would help in many cases increase exposure and get some more shadow
detail and further help avoid
overexposure. You should always "expose to the right" as much as possible (without clipping highlights) with compact cameras for
best image quality (and least noise)
and a histogram would help a lot. The LCD of the camera (actually LCD of ANY camera at the moment) is nowhere near good enough to
judge exposure, especially in more
demanding photographic situations - photographing towards light source, highly reflecting surfaces, light shining to the LCD, etc
etc.
dynamic range 200% and 400% ^
This feature increases ISO to either ISO 200 or ISO 400, while trying to increase dynamic range of the captured scene. This option
may be of some use, when
photographing scenes that need the best possible dynamic range, but in practice this feature is only worthwhile when trying to get
just more highlight detail from the
scene - it is not very useful for trying to get more shadow detail. Shadow detail is compromised using the dynamic range option
because of the increased ISO, but
highlight detail is better preserved to varying extent. On the other hand, in many images a negative exposure compansation produces
even better results than the
dynamic range 200% or 400% option, because you can keep the sensitivity at ISO 100 and thus get less noise. The side effects of the
Dynamic range feature are that
noise is increased and details are decreased, because the feature uses either ISO 200 or ISO 400. Highlight colors may be distorted
a bit when using the DR option
(those highlights that would be normally clipped, but have been saved with the DR option).
In a photo taken in sunlight, the the same findings apply. The following image represents the whole image area and the red square
represents the 100% crop area.
macro mode ^
The macro mode of the F100 gives the biggest magnification at the widest focal length and this makes the macro of limited use. The
macro cannot be used very well to
isolate
objects. Also, the very close distance to the objects tends to distort proportions. On the other hand, the 28mm macro mode has some
interesting uses - but I wish the
camera
would give better magnification at longer focal lengths. What SEVERELY limits the use of the macro mode, is the lack of aperture
control: the macro mode gives the
shortest
DOF and here the user often want's to mimimize OR maximize the DOF. With the F100fd, it is impossible to control the DOF and the
camera autoselects the aperture from
(only)
the two aperture holes available.
chrome color ^
Chrome color increases saturation and changes the Dynamic Range setting to Auto. It also appears to increase contrast. This mode
usually oversaturates images and is
not
useful for someone who post processes images. If post processing the images, even increasing contrast with curves and levels makes
the image easily look oversaturated
when
using in-camera boosted staturation. I stay with Standard color and increase saturation in post processing if necessary (actually
pretty rarely). For someone that
_never_
post processes images, this might be useful.
CA and PF ^
CA and purple fring are not a problem with this camera at all. Purple fringing and CA are such rare occurrences, that I'm half
thinking there must be some in-camera
processing going on to eliminate them. Something that the big brother camera S100fs
would have desperately needed (it has a notoriously bad performance in regards to CA).
What ever the case with the F100fd, at least the end result with PF and CA is very good. Compared to F30, there is very little CA
and PF. I'm actually surprised, that
this
has so much improved, when so many things have gone the opposite direction compared to the older models. All this with the new lens
that covers a greater focal length
range, too.
image stabilization ^
Works and seems to be useful, but not as useful as competition. Other camera manufacturers like Canon and Panasonic provide image
stabilization systems that work
better.
Focusing ^
In most situations the camera focuses quite swiftly and accurately. Better performance than many compact cameras.
White balance ^
Auto White balance is in most situations perfectly satisfactory. Daylight and low light shots come out true to the scene, but as is
usual, indoor lighting is more
challenging and you may need to fiddle with the WB presets or custom WB at times. Indoor WB performance is not worse than average of
compact cameras (but for example
the
Panasonic TZ cameras produce a better Auto WB result).
Image quality ^
As you have undoubtedly found out, I have a lot to complain about the F100fd. Image quality as such is not one of those things,
though. If we just forget the rarely occurring pink band,
the F100fd bears comparison to just about any compact camera available at the moment and at ISO 100-400 it presents the best
available quality (update 09/03: Panasonic LX3 has as good or a bit better image quality and at ISO's of up to 400 the Canon G10
is as good but worse at ISO's of 800 and up). Then again, every camera has certain peculiarities and weaknesses when it comes to
image quality. So the F100fd has shortcomings in image quality too and I will try explain the
nature of F100fd's images thoroughly in this review. This doesn't mean that the F100fd has more image quality flaws than other
cameras (pink band aside). I just try
bring to light the noteworthy things, so the camera's users can better understand how the camera works and what might be done to
improve the images further.
Images are sharp corner to corner at all focal lengths. There is visible barrel distortion at wide angle (6.4mm) and a little barrel
distortion still at around 14mm
that
can be fixed with PTlens. F100fd is bit sharper at wide angle compared to tele (or middle way focal lengths). There is slightly more
CA at full tele. Overall very
little
CA.
F100fd tends to underexpose at times. In practice, there seems to be little difference between average metering and matrix metering.
Auto white balance is not very
good
indoors, the results are too warm images in incandescent light.
At ISO 100 there is some luminance noise, but it is quite even and can be easily further smoothed out in noise reduction programs,
without leaving pathces of actual
high
frequency noise. Low contrast detail (texture) is quite well preserved. The images are very sharp at ISO 100. Overall images are
quite smooth. Be noted though, that
even at
ISO 100, shadow areas of images are slightly affected by in-camera noise reduction and there the detail is slightly muted compared
to other areas. The noise reduction perfomance is better than other compact cameras besides Panasonic LX3 though.
At ISO 200 there is a little more luminance noise, but the images are still quite smooth. Low contrast detail is still preserved
quite well.
At ISO 400 the luminance noise is further increased and the noise is a little more uneven. Even still, the low contrast detail holds
up surprisingly well. The images
still
appear quite smooth, a lot more so than Panasonic TZ3 images at ISO 400.
At ISO 800 the luminance noise takes a jump and begins to be visibly degrading to image quality. ISO 1600 is something that I
personally in most situations draw the
line
at, because from there on the noise is getting so heavy. Much worse than the predecessor camera F30.
Following will be 100% crops at each ISO from ISO 100 to ISO 3200, taken from the this target set up. The focal length used was 14mm
for all shots (also for Panasonic
comparison photos).
The following crop is taken from the head of the mechanical chicken.
The next crop series is taken from the pencil container. You can see the raster print detail in the F100fd's ISO 100 and ISO 200
crops and they have pretty much
blurred in the ISO 400 image. Panasonic couldn't catch the raster detail at all and it was blurred by noise. Fuji fares better at
ISO 100 to ISO ISO 800. On the other
hand, at ISO 1600 Fuji's noise jumps so obviously, that the Panasonic manages better quality with low contrast detail (but fares
worse with high contrast detail). At
ISO 800, low contrast detail resolving might be seen as a tie between the TZ3 and the F100fd. This ISO 800-1600 performance can be a
surprise for someone familiar
with Fuji's reputation for getting the best high ISO shots.
In the following crop of the sprayer nozzle, you can see how the detail can be almost completely smeared into other parts of the
image, in areas where contrast is
not
very high. In this crop the backround luminosity and color are quite close to the object's, so in-camera noise reduction has a hard
time deciding what to treat as
noise (and remove it) and what to treat as signal (and save it). It looks like the Panasonic TZ3 is applying more in-camera noise
reduction to the image and on the
other hand, there is more room for noise removal in post processing with the Fuji. This is a good thing, as some images benefit from
cleaner look while others need
all the possible detail. The TZ3 image has lost more detail to the in-camera noise reduction.
Red blotches ^
One noteworthy peculiarity of F100fd's image quality is larger red blothces of "noise" in shadow areas, that are too large (roughly
20x20 pixels) to be removed in
post
processing by Neatimage or other equivalent programs. These blotches are quite faint, probably a side effect of the noise reduction
system or some other in-camera
image processing. They are
most visible at higher ISOs, but appear very faintly even in some ISO 100-200 images. Actually even the previous model F30 has this
kind of red blothces, but they are
even fainter (and I
haven't seen anyone complaining about them). The blotches cannot be usually seen in images that have not been post procesed, but
when the image is underexposed or has
shadow areas and is
subjected to levels / curves or equivalent processing while lifting the shadows, the blotches become more visible. When raising the
ISO, these blotches appear more
frequently in the shadow
areas. To see what these blotches look like, see the the crop of an ISO 400 image below. This 100% crop is taken from the image that
you can see in the beginning of
the
pink band section. The image there represents the (resized) full image area,
both with and without
post processing). Later in the pink band section you can also look at the 100% crops of test target (ISO 100 to 3200) to see another
sample
of
the blotching.
Pink band ^
The "pink band" phenomenon is a a glow on the left side of the image (sensor) that is about 100-200 pixels wide and usually magenta
hued, at times it may be perceived
to be more reddish or bluish. This left side glow is a relatively rare occurrence in everyday photography, probably partially
due to the shutter speed limitations that the F100fd has (can't take slower than 1/4 second photos with all ISO settings, Night mode
uses lowest ISOs).
Some people don't get pink band on their images - or they just don't see it in their images or never photograph in circumstances
that produce the pink band. In the
F100fd test done by the
Imaging-resource, their low light images seem to quite free of the pink band. On the other hand, it is a well known fact that many
people get the pink band and my
camera definitely does
produce the pink band at times.
The "pink band" is most visible with images that have been underexposed and need to be treated (for example with levels or curves)
in post processing to correct the
exposure. This is most
pronounced with firmware v1.01 and is to large extent fixed with v1.02. I strongly recommend updating firmware to v1.02 (but I take
absolutely no responsibility for
errors or accidents that happen
in the process). In everyday photography this flaw shows usually only in photographs that have been taken with 1/4 - 1/8 shutter
speeds and have been underexposed
and/or have dark areas on the
left hand side. In daytime photography the phenomenon is usually never visible. Below you will see a actual photography situation
presenting pink band. The
image was taken with firmware v1.01, which creates stronger pink band than v1.02
I went through all of my F100fd photos that I've taken while photographing in an actual
photography situation and not trying to manifest some particular effect with a test target
(like pink band) from the camera. From among all my photos that have been taken with
firmware v1.02 (over 4000), the following ISO400 image is actually the ONLY one, that I
managed to find at the moment that shows the left side overheating, which is in this case
obviously magenta hued. This photograph has the typical case that can show the magenta glow
and I have to say that I do not photograph in such circumstances with a compact camera very
often (I dig my DSLR for this kind of condinitions). You really have to shoot
this kind of scene with dark border areas (left side), long(ish) exposure and ISO 400 or above to get the
pink band (though this scene might have shown a smaller amount of magenta glow with ISO
200). Some people might shoot more often in this kind of circumstances than I do and they
would suffer a bit more of the glow. Of course, the left side glow can be somewhat fixed in
post processing.
This sample has three resized versions of the same image. Unprocessed on the left, typical
moderate post processing at right and extreme post processing (that I would never
usually use) in the third pic. This particular image shows magenta coloration almost through
the whole image, when the shadows are lifted. ISO 400 and 1/6 seconds shutter speed.
And next you'll see 100% crops (550 pixels wide) from the previous images, taken from the left side of the image.
Image quality of F100fd vs F30 and vs F50 ^
Well, people area obviously going to be interested in how the F100fd performs image quality wise against the previous image quality
champ, the Fuji F30. I will
compare the two cameras
using a little help from the a well known camera review site. I cannot provide you any direct comparison between the F100fd and F30,
because I don't have the F30
anymore, but the
folks at Imaging-resource.com are kind enough to give everyone free acces to the full size test images from
every camera that they have ever tested. The test images for F100fd and F30
are not all from same tests (some tests feature different targets), but Imaging-resource has the same "still life" ISO series for
both the F100fd and F30, which makes
comparing the
two cameras easy. They also provide a "comparometer" utility, which you can use to directly compare the studio sample images of two
cameras (of course you can
download them to your
computer and study them in Photoshop, etc).
I consider Imaging-resource's reviews very high quality, neutral and informative and I can highly recommend the site to anyone
seeking the
best camera reviews.
For copyright reasons I will not of course present any of the images or crops here, if you wan't to see them, you will have to go
the the www.imaging-resource.com web site
Imaging-resource's F100fd sample images:
http://www.imaging-
resource.com/PRODS/F100FD/F100FDA7.HTM
Imaging-resource's F30 sample images:
http://www.imaging-
resource.com/PRODS/F30/F30A7.HTM
Imaging-resource's F50 sample images:
http://www.imaging-
resource.com/PRODS/F50FD/F50FDA7.HTM
Imaging-resource's camera comparometer
http://www.imaging-
resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
I downloaded Fuji F100fd, F30 and F50 images from Imaging-resource and compared them in various manners, like side by side at full
resolution, on top of each other in
layers (after
resizing F100fd / F50 images to 6MP bicubic), etc. Let's break down the image comparison at various ISO's between F100fd, F30 (and
F50). I will present analysis of
the images from ISO
100 upwards.
ISO 100
F100fd has more overall detail in both high contrast and (perhaps surprisingly) also in low contrast areas of images than F30. The
F100fd images would appear to be
slightly less
sharpened in-camera. There is less purple fringing and CA in F100fd images. At per pixel level the F100fd appears to be more noisy
when compared to F30, but this
evens out when you
resize the F100fd images to 6MP (or use camera's own 6MP mode). At this ISO I can't really blame the F100fd to perform any worse
when the difference in resolution is
taken into
consideration. Someone might even say that the F100fd is performing better noise-wise also, but this is a very close call. These
things (more detail in high contrast
and low contrast areas, equivalent noise performance and lack of fringing) result in overall better performance at ISO 100 by the
F100fd. The F50 would appear to be slightly sharper then the F100fd, but also slightly noisier at ISO 100. Perhaps the F50 has more
in-camera sharpening. Pretty equal
performance
between F100fd and F50.
ISO 200
Same thing at ISO 200 between F100fd and F30. F100fd has more overall detail in both high contrast and in low contrast areas of
images. As noise starts to increase
and the cameras
have slightly different methods for processing noise, it gets harder to say which is better, but I would say that the F30 has
slightly better flat areas regarding
noise and the F100fd
has better noise control in areas where there is small detail also. Like I've said previously between Fuji F50 and F30, at this ISO
it is a matter of prefence which
camera produces
the better images, the F100fd or F30. If you prefer more detail - then the F100, but if you prefer smoother, noise free flat areas
then, _perhaps_ the F30. Pretty
evenly matched but
overall, I might consider the F100fd to perform slightly better at this ISO. The F50 is clearly noisier than F100fd and I prefer the
F100fd's image over F50. The
F100fd seems more
smooth than F50 and still at least equally detailed (The F100fd may be even slightly more detailed).
Side note: from ISO 400 on, the pink band starts to appear more frequently, so if it is a major concern for you, you have to
take it into account. The Imaging
-resource's test
targets have a white backround and white left side, so the pink band would not show up in the still life series. Although, I have to
say that when I looked at their
low light ISO
series, there wasn't really any pink band to talk about there either. Strange. Maybe there's just a lot of faulty F100fd's around
and Imaging-resource has received a
pink band free
camera? Input from other F100fd users would be welcome and if anyone has a pink band free camera, I'd like to see ISO 400-1600 test
shots too taken around 1/4 second.
ISO 400
F30 handles flat areas (areas void of detail) slightly better and makes them cleaner, but the difference is not big compared to
F100fd. Although the F30's flat areas
look less noisy,
in some parts the F30's noise reduction leaves some slight pixel level irregularities to the smooth areas, that the F100fd does not
have. This ISO is where those
slight "red blotches"
of the F100fd start to appear to the shadows, but now that I look at some F30 images, I see that they are present in the there too,
but not quite as visibly as in the
F100fd. I have
to say, that only a pixel peeper like me will pay any attention to the blotches (those people who post process images extensively
and carefully, making the best
possible image at
pixel level). The F100fd image seems overall more detailed and "contrasty" than the F30 version (this may be partially due to the
F100fd not having any PF / CA). At
this ISO, I like
images from both cameras equally, so it's a tie between the F30 and F100fd. F50 noise performance is clearly worse than F100fd, the
F50's flat areas have more
irreqular noise the the
F100fd. Amount of detail goes pretty even between the F50 and F100fd, though the F50 image seems more sharpened in some areas.
Overall, F100fd looks better than F50.
ISO 800
F30 image has more low contrast detail and smoother flat areas. F100fd has more detail in high contrast areas. The F100fd has more
apparent noise. The F30 wins at
this ISO due to the
smoother appearance, but all things considered, the difference is not that huge - depends on how much the difference in luminance
noise troubles you. The F50 has
unappealingly
blotchy noise in flat areas of the image at this ISO and low contrast detail is seemingly worse than F100fd - the F100fd image looks
more pleasing.
ISO 1600
F30 image has more low contrast detail, smoother flat areas and less overall noise than F100fd. F100fd has slightly more detail in
high contrast areas. The F100fd
looks less saturated
than the F30, possibly partly because of the noise / noise reduction. The F30 wins at this ISO due to much smoother appearance. The
F50 has ugly blotchy noise in flat
areas and low
contrast detail is seemingly worse than F100fd. The F50 looks more saturated than F100fd, but it actually makes the situation only
worse for the F50. The F50 has
colored blotches in
the noise of flat areas, while in comparison the F100fd looks positively color blotch free (though it does have pale red blotches in
shadow areas). The F100fd image
looks more
pleasing than the F50, because the F50 image looks damn ugly. F100fd's noise is more "fine grained" than F50's noise.
ISO 3200
Ok... so now we have entered the ISO at which NO compact camera looks pretty anymore - not even the F30. I personally draw the line
at ISO 1600 for the F30, but the
F100fd's image
looks maybe slightly worse still. The first thing that strikes the eye, is that the saturation of the F100fd is much lower than the
F30 at this ISO. The noise of the
F100fd looks
finer grained than the F30, but there's more of it. The F30 has more "clumpy" noise, so it's not pretty either (more of the noise
has been removed in in-camera
processing but it has
left uneven areas). The F30 has more low contrast detail compared to the F100fd, but that doesn't mean that there much of it. The
F100fd has more high contrast
detail. It is basically
pointless at this point to say which camera's output looks "better", but I prefer the F30 by a little margin. The difference was
bigger at ISO 1600 in F30's favor.
The F50 performance
is weakest of the bunch because of it's uneaven noise which is spiced with pretty thightly spaced many colored color blotches (at
this ISO 3200 the F50 only outputs a
6MP file, while
the F100fd still produces a 12MP file). The F50 produces approximately the same amount of high contrast detail as F30 at this ISO.
Bottom line
Per pixel image quality of F30 looks better than F100fd's. But when you resize the F100fd image to 6MP, at lower ISOs (100-200) the
F100fd outperforms the F30,
because the F100fd is
more detailed and does not have more noise than the F30. At ISO 400 the performance seems matched between F100fd and F30. At ISO 800
to ISO 1600 F30 wins. ISO 3200
gives everyone the
shivers. F50 image quality is worse than F100fd from ISO 200 and up.
Compared to Fuji F30 or F31 ^
When comparing cameras, it always comes down to what you need from a camera and what you're going to use it for.
In favor of F100fd
+ much more versatile 28-140 lens
+ Image stabilization
+ Better ISO 100-200
+ Smaller size, fits in pants pocket, etc
In favor of F30/F31
+ Aperture and shutter speed control
+ better for low light shots in 1 second to 1/8 seconds shutter speed range (with focal lengths 36-108)
+ better quality with ISO 800 and higher (useful if you never use a DSLR, othwerwise questionable value)
+ better, smoother flat areas in regards to noise with ISO 400 and up
Conclusion ^
(updated 2009/03/01 with notes about and comparison
to Panasonic LX3 and Canon G10
)
The F100fd is a very good and versatile point & shoot compact camera, if you can overlook it's flaws. The versatility comes from the
28-140 lens, (mediocre) image stabilization, good image quality and noise performance up to ISO 400 (ISO 800) and compact size. The
combination of focal length range, image stabilization and noise performance means that you can use the F100fd in a multitude of
circumstances. Biggest problems are the lack of a histogram and memory card size limited to 4GB (at least the cards that I have
tried). Myself, all in all, I'm fairly happy with the F100fd and I wouldn't trade it right now back to the older Fujis like the F30
(because it lacks the 28-140 lens). But right now (2009/03/01) I'm thinking hard about getting a Panasonic LX3 as a sidekick to the
F100fd, because of the vastly better controls and histogram, fast lens and better low contrast detail, even though the lens is
seriously limited on the tele-end.
(update 2009/06/14) Recently, I have purchased a Panasonic TZ7 (also known as ZS3)
and it fares very well in good light and lower ISO's against the Fuji F100 and F200. The image quality is on par to F100 and ISO 80
and ISO 100, even better in some cases. The TZ7 is also a pleasure to use because of the 25-300mm equivalent lens, histogram, good
LCD and good IS. A more detailed report to come in the future, probably as a separate article.
Still, the F100fd might not be YOUR cup of tee (see the list of what you should take into account when considering the F100fd). I
have DSLRs to manage the more
challenging photographic situations, so that helps bare the missing things. Of course, I would LOVE to have all the missing features
in the F100fd and the flaws
removed (especially the missing histogram, PB and MicroSD problems). In the future, I may be forced to acquire another compact that
has less limited low light
shooting possibilities and manual control over aperture and shutter speed.
The flaws that you should take into account include:
1) missing histogram (just about every other camera of the competition has this feature)
2) Class 6 8GB Micro SD card read/write errors, i.e. you can't use 8GB MicroSD cards!
3) sub-par handling in form of the missing EV-button, virtual menu wheel and slow operation when adjusting exposure through the
menus.
4) the rarely occurring "pink band" issue that appears in varying amounts, most frequently when using the slowest shutter speeds
(1/8 to 1/4) and at ISO 400 or
higher, especially when the image is underexposed. But the pink band can also appear with the lower ISOs to lesser extent and with
faster shutter speeds with the
higher ISOs.
5) no possibility to adjust aperture or shutter speed
6) no possibility to take photos with slower than 1/4 second shutter speeds without selecting the Night mode, which is very limited
in function (you can not use EV-
correction or select ISO)
7) weak flash
8) poorly implemented continuous shooting (but not worse than other F-series cameras)
9) pooor video mode (that I almost never use)
At the moment there is a short list of competition to the Fuji F100fd: Canon G10 and Panasonic LX3 (about which I talk in a bit more
detail in the next paragraph,
Panasonic TZ5, the older Panasonic model TZ3 (which both have a 28-280 lens), the just announced and around the door TZ7 (=ZS3)
with the more wide angle lens and the old Canon Ixus 860IS (=SD870IS) which has a 28-105 lens. Now there is also available the Canon
PowerShot SX200 IS, which has a 28-336mm equivalent focal length and manual controls. It is roughly on TZ7(ZS3)'s level considering
image quality. Sony W170 is also not a bad camera as such with a 28-140 lens, but it doesn't get near the Fuji's image quality. The
Sony W170 images have more chroma noise and stronger (less sophisticated) noise reduction than the F100fd, but it comes right after
the Fuji, Panasonic
and Canon in image quality. If you want the best possible image quality at ISO 100-400 and don't take long shutter speed shots in
low light and possibly also want a camera that fits into your pants pocket, then the Fuji F100fd is a good choice, with
aforementioned reservations.
Compared to Canon G10 and Panasonic LX3
In terms of controls and features, those two cameras are way, way ahead of the F100fd with just about all the features that
you usually need in a camera, both
even an external flash socket. The G10 is significantly larger, the LX3 is pretty pocketable (but still doesn't fit in a jeans
pocket like the F100fd does). In
regards to image quality they manage equally well at ISO 100-400, and actually have more low contrast detail than the F100fd. At
higher sensitivities, the Canon G10
produces softer JPG images than Fuji (ISO 800 and higher). The LX3 produces very high quality images at ISO 800-1600 too, but the
noise pattern is less even than
F100fd's and IMO tends to show up more in image areas that have little detail.
LX3 in JPG mode has an irregular luminance noise pattern that is hard to smooth out in post processing. In RAW, the LX3 has more
noise, but it can be easily smoothed out in (for example) Lightroom to look cleaner.
Canon G10 in JPG mode also has some irregularity in the reduction of luminance noise, but not as much as the LX3. Using G10 in RAW
gives better details than F100fd even at ISO 400, but increases noise a lot. The G10 and LX3 have more low contrast detail than
F100fd in either JPG or RAW mode, but in RAW they have significantly more noise and in JPG the noise pattern is more irregular
(uglier).
At ISO 100-400 G10 and LX3 manage to balance noise with detail, but at ISO 800 that changes as both cameras still have a bit more
detail than F100 (especially the LX3) but both have much more noise, so that the end resul looks bad.
The Canon G10 has 28-140mm range, image quality is as good at ISO 100-400 (and you also have the option for RAW), but most
importantly considering usability as
a photographic device, the G10 is just like a camera should be. The G10 has easy access to EV correction, PASM modes, histogram and
very straightforward operability
with enough BUTTONS(!) for quick setting changes (many modern cameras have far too few buttons while the settings have to be changed
from menus). It's just got a lot
more bulk than the F100fd.
Then we come to the Panasonic LX3. If one was to concentrate on wide angle photography (24-60mm, 18mm with an adapter!), then
the LX3 would be without DOUBT
the best choice among compact cameras at the moment, with very good controls, great high ISOs (as good as F100fd up to ISO 1600, but
with better low contrast detail),
faster lens and still surprisingly pocketable! If it had even slightly more reach in the tele-end, I'd be using it right now
alongside or instead of the F100fd.
If you want the focal lengths of 140-280, easier and faster operation (like changing exposure value), good continuous shooting,
better IS, histogram and don't mind a bit bigger camera, then the TZ5/TZ7 (ZS3) is your choice. You will just have to live with the
fact that the TZ5/TZ7 images have more luminance noise and less detail than the F100fd images. There's nothing really wrong with the
old Canon 860IS, but it does have weaker image quality than the F100fd and the lens can't compete with the other two cameras, so I'd
write that choice off, unless you need something truly pocketable and don't feel comfortable with the Fuji F100fd.
If you want to select the camera between the the TZ5 and the TZ3, it must be noted that the difference in image quality with the
newer TZ5 and older TZ3 is that the
TZ5 has more detail, but the images also have more noise and the flat areas (areas void of detail) are not as smooth with the TZ5 as
they are with the TZ3. The TZ5
has some improvements in button layout (it is easier and faster to operate than the TZ3, macro can be accessed via a button and
there's a separate slide switch for
image review) and the movie mode has been improved (now 1280x720 pixels at 30 frames per second and as far as I remember correctly
you can zoom while recording).
In the future, I'm waiting to see more compact cameras that have all the usual controls and features of an advanced *photographer's*
camera (like a histogram, AF/AE-
lock button, Aperture control and Manual shutter speed control) with a wide angle zoom lens AND good image quality. I hope along
with many others that the
Olympus/Panasonic micro four thirds can respond to the need. Of course, those cameras won't be quite as pocketable as the F100fd or
even the Panasonic LX3/TZ5, but
they might get close with a single focal length pancake lens.
In year 2009 Olympus may come up with some exciting compact Micro Four Thirds cameras. So far, Panasonic's u43 camera (G1) is too
large, but I think I've read
somewhere, that Panasonic will also develop more compact Micro Four Thirds cameras in the future.
Fuji F200 EXR (update 2009/06/14) ^
In a nutshell, in regards to noise and detail, the F200 performs worse than F100 at 12mp size, because of the new sensor design and demosaicing artifacts. At 6MP and higher ISO's, the F200 may be considered better, because the camera removes color blotching efficiently and in that regard results in cleaner looking images. There is improvement in dynamic range (highlight retention), when using the specific DR modes (400% and 800%). Previously, when I observed some pre-release images, I noticed that the F200 had stronger sharpening than F100. This seems to be fixed in the release version, but the F200 images still have more luminance noise than F100 images (at 12MP). On the other hand, the F200 images now look less detailed than F100 images. Just to let you know to avoid confusion, because I previously criticized the F200 images because of strong sharpening.
12MP resolution and sharpening:
Having looked at the 12MP and 6MP images of F200 and F100, it's clear that when shooting at at 12MP, the older F100 produces a bit more detail than the F200 and the images are less noisy. On ISO 100 there is no significant difference in the amount of noise (but F200 images look softer), but at ISO 200 there is already a slight advantage to F100 and at ISO 400 to ISO 800 the difference is clearly in F100's advantage. To some casual observer, the F200 images might look more detailed, but that is definitely not the case.
On top of having more noise, demosaicing artifacts are slightly messing up the details near resolution limit with the F200 - you can see the effect when looking at some images with some fine diagonal lines, like buildings at a distance or looking at high contrast areas near resolution limit in images with tree branches and other fine detail.
At lower ISO's (ISO100, ISO200) the output of F200 isn't such a bad thing, but at ISO 400 and up, it's clearly worse then F100.
6MP in-camera resolution:
At 6 megapixels the F200 produces, perhaps, slightly better images than the F100, because it removes the color blotching that can be seen in the F100 images. It's not the same as chroma noise. Chroma noise is different and there isn't any in either camera. I quess that the blotching is probably a side effect of chroma noise that is badly removed with the in-camera noise reduction... Looking at details, it kind of looks like you really don't even need the 12MP's of the camera. There seems to be almost all of the detail in a 6MP file, but there is less blotching.
On the other hand, the F100fd images have less luminance noise and in this respect look cleaner. Flat image areas look better in that regard with F100, but the blotching can be seen. It is a matter of preference which looks worse, luminance noise or blotching. Myself, I rather tolerate a little more luminance noise than blotching - the images look more natural that way to my eye. It is probably a software trick with the F200, because the 12MP image of the F200 has just as much blotching as F100 does and I don't think that pixel binning can remove the blotching, because the color blothes are 20 pixels wide.
On the whole, image quality wise, I would say that the F100 is a better camera - IF - the F200 didn't have the dynamic range improvement modes, which can help a lot in preserving hilight detail. Personally, I wouldn't exchange the F100 to F200.
ps. this blotching is something that just about every compact camera of every brand has, the Fuji F31 too.
The left side glow ("pink band") is fixed in the F200 - you can't see the left side glow, that you can see in the higher ISO's of
F100fd pics.
Still no histogram
There is no histogram in the F200. I find this unbelieavable. Really, it makes me want to cry. With digital photography, it's the
single most important tool for getting properly exposed images. With such poor and small LCD displays that these cameras have, it is
impossible to check the level of exposure while photographing in even a slightly demanding situation. For example, if there is any
sunlight to the LCD display or against the direction to which you're holding the camera, it makes judging exposure from the LCD just
impossible! Even in good lighting situations, the LCD display's poor quality (and frankly, nature) makes an accurate judgement of
exposure a hard and even an impossible thing.
A simple histogram would make correct exposure in the more demanding situations a breeze. A histogram also is a _quick_ way of
judging exposure and making a decision if and how much exposure correction needs to be done and which way. Even with DSLRs, which
have vastly more dynamic range, the first thing that I (and many other photographers) check after taking a shot is the histogram.
With a camera that has no histogram, I am constantly frustrated for having to guess if the highlights are blown or not, only when I
get back home and look at images on a monitor, I finally know if the exposure was accurate or not.
It costs absolutely NOTHING to include a histogram, but still Fuji has not included one (while their larger compacts have that
feature). It could be switched off by default (like in some recent Panasonic compacts) if the fear of confusing beginners (?!) is
the reason for not including it.
the good and the bad of the F200:
+ less color blotching at 6MP
+ no left side glowing
+ DR advantage in DR modes (but possibly more noise)
- still no histogram! (this is frankly unbelievable)
- higher luminance noise than F100
- demosaicing artifacts at 12MP
- provia mode uses less sharpening, but it is spoiled by stronger contrast
- hot pixels at even 1/4" second exposures (F100fd is hot pixel prone, too). Dark frame subtraction not working properly.
My post processing workflow (in order of execution)
^
1) Noise control (Neatimage)
I have generated noise profiles for the F100fd, that you can download from Neatimage.com's website
here.
I run the image through Neatimage, if it is ISO 200 or higher, sometimes also ISO 100 images. Images that are going to be heavily
post processed (with contrast
adjustments like Levels, Curves, Shadow & highlight) benefit most from
noise removal, because noise tends to become more apparent
when adjusting contrast. Many ISO 100 images don't need noise removal even when contrast adjusted, but some do benefit from it.
It also depends on image's type and the photographer's taste and style how much and how often noise should be removed.
Removing noise only takes 30 seconds in total when you know what
you're doing (auto match a profile for Fuji F100fd and select an appropriate filter preset. If your
really picky (like me) just use that 10 minutes to fine tune a filter preset for every ISO. I
recommend selecting 200% magnification when previewing the effect of neatimage while making
adjustments to the filter preset.
http://www.neatimage.com/
2) optical distortion fix (mostly on wide angle images)
Use PTlens for correcting barrel / pincushion distortion (if needed).
Running PTlens on an image for optical distortion takes less than 10 seconds.
PT-lens homepage:
http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/
2b) fringing fix (only about 1% of images)
This happens really rarely with the F100fd, but CA can be fixed with PTlens too. If there is any purple fringing,
I fix it with a "Hue / saturation" layer, darkening and desaturating parts of the image that have
blue/ magenta fringing (PTlens can't remove it).
Step-by-step Hue / saturation PF fix in Photoshop:
- Go to quick mask mode press [Q]
- With a Brush [B] of appropriate size, paint areas of the image that have purple fringing
-create a "Hue / saturation" layer
- select Edit: Blues or Magentas from the pull down menu
- click on a part of image that has the color fringing, this will adjust the position of the
sliders to a correct position. After that, you can adjust the more accurately by hand if you
want to.
- I usually dial a negative value for lightness and
- negative value for saturation
3) brightening shadows, darkening hilights (~20-40% of images)
I use the shadow / highlight feature of Photoshop on some images. For example pics that have high
contrast and strong directional light seem to benefit from some balancing (brightening) of the
shadows. It is also possible to darken hues that are NEARLY burnt with the shadow / highlight
tool and gain some more detail into the hilights if necessary.
4) Levels (on 80-90% of images) for contrast adjustment and white balance fixing.
B&W conversion in post processing ^
I use almost always the Channel mixer for turning into b&w, because that way I get to decide
how much brightness differently colored areas of the image will have and have the most control
over the final image. I also use Hue / Saturation before the b&w conversion to modify the
image. There are plenty of good tutorials on the net abot B&W conversion, so I won't go in to
more details here, but just try this:
1) - make a Hue / Saturation layer, with neutral settings (no change)
2) - make a Channel mixer layer (monochrome) with starting values of 33% in each value
3) -> then, adjust the 'Hue' slider in the Hue / Saturation layer and see it's effects on the image
----> note: the Hue / saturation layer needs to be below the Channel mixer layer for this to work.
4) (optional) -> you can also try varying the amount in the Output Channels of the Channel mixer layer
-> It's THAT easy!
Fuji F100fd image gallery: ^
Maybe it should be noted, that not ONE of the shots in the image gallery suffer from the pink band phenomenon.
https://pbase.com/arn/snapshots_f100fd
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